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IRAN-why not North Korea & VENEZUELA ?

Discussion in 'News' started by Getzup, Mar 26, 2006.

  1. Getzup

    Getzup Member

    Joined: Dec 28, 2005 Messages: 681 Likes Received: 0
    Right now we are trying to squeze the life out of Iran for nuclear dismantiling,
    the U.S position is that, "IRan poses a great threat to Israel, saying that the Hamas have written in thier constituion that israel must be wiped out off the planet." [i'm paraphrasing so dont beat me for that.]

    But my question is, why not go after North Korea, and Venezuela?


    WHat do you think?
     
  2. BAN-THIS!!!

    BAN-THIS!!! Junior Member

    Joined: Mar 1, 2006 Messages: 141 Likes Received: 0
    How's about we just stop flexing on everyone alltogether and mind our own buisiness. That way we don't have to constantly worry about other countries wanting to nuke us so bad. Sounds logical to me.

    Besides, Isreal kinda has it coming anyways.
     
  3. Getzup

    Getzup Member

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    Nukes keep the peace in my eyes, No one wants a global suicide mission.
     
  4. lord_casek

    lord_casek 12oz Royalty

    Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Messages: 27,078 Likes Received: 1,007
    north korea: fine. no problem with that.

    venezuela, however, i do have a problem with you saying that.
    why do you want it nuked? because chavez is giving back the land that the rich stole formt he poor? because he called bush out for being hilter-esque?
    because he won't bow to our concessions? why? give me one good reason why you're hating on a good country an a good president (of venezuela).

    as for iran: it's like this, our govt. wants key positions in the middle east to carry out strikes on the rest of the middle east. Operation Iraqi Liberation. O.I.L.

    derrrrr.
     
  5. Lonesome Cowboy Bill

    Lonesome Cowboy Bill Member

    Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Messages: 363 Likes Received: 0
    Iran got on our shit list after they threw out American and British oil companies and nationalized their oil industry...



    personally I think it would be good for Iran to have nukes...it keeps us in check, amongst others...
     
  6. Stereotype V.001

    Stereotype V.001 Member

    Joined: Jun 9, 2005 Messages: 416 Likes Received: 0

    Actually, if he spent a fraction of the money he uses for propaganda that reaches people like you he could probably help out some of the millions of people living in shanty towns....he makes alot of oil money.
    o rly?!!?!?
    "Venezuela has one of the largest known oil deposits in the world as well as huge quantities of coal, iron ore, bauxite and gold. Yet most Venezuelans live in poverty"
    "Unemployment remains high and, according to official figures, around 60% of households are poor."
    More Chavez! He's so generous


    That comment actually isn't too ironic, Chavez is definitely more of a Pol Pot, or maybe even a Stalin. He deals with political dissidents with style, yet discretely.
    Chavez persecutes political opponents
    Public's ability to monitor and criticize venezuelan govt. stifled
    Control of media
    Hugo Chavez's security forces detain and beat protestors (below link talks about an incident where 40 protestors died and 200 were injured).
    Uncle Hugo and his buddies uphold censorship laws
    I'm sure its all lies, we all know how conservative the Human Right's Watch organization can be. (sarcasm)
    More from the great president of Venezuela
    Yeah, amnesty international is also another bastion of neo-conservatism, and also a pawn of the Bush administration.

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    a good country an a good president (of venezuela).
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    Seriously dude, you will obviously get offended and call me a bitch two dozen times or something along those lines, but there are other places to get your news other than prisonplantet.conspiracy//tinfoilhelmetkeepsbushfromreadingmythoughts.com
     
  7. Stereotype V.001

    Stereotype V.001 Member

    Joined: Jun 9, 2005 Messages: 416 Likes Received: 0
    And about the thread topic, it's because Iran has launched terrorist attacks in the past and the government is based on a violent and extreme interpretation of an otherwise peaceful and loving religion (no seriously.) While North Korea may use nukes as a political device, Iran will use them to destroy parts of the western world to spread the love.

    Hopefully this doesn't happen, and your half-assed, naive perception of the US as the big bad bully, and global politics as a whole, remains unbelmished.
     
  8. Chavez is a slimy fucking prick. At some level I may respect what he says he wants to do, but I can't stand the guy and I don't think he's a trustworthy leader. Evo Morales, on the other hand, is awesome.
     
  9. lord_casek

    lord_casek 12oz Royalty

    Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Messages: 27,078 Likes Received: 1,007
  10. tsuifuku

    tsuifuku Junior Member

    Joined: Apr 19, 2005 Messages: 204 Likes Received: 0
    I dont think the number one reason the US is going into the middle east is oil, i believe it has more to do with "weapons of mass destruction"

    The united states has the most powerful military in the world, no other country stands a chance in a ground war with the US. So what do these other countries do? Buy weapons that will kill lots of people if used. Its like a check on power.

    In Venezuela the working class has made substantial gains, but Chaves is trying to straddle the working class and a layer of the class that does the exploiting of the workers.

    Evo Morales is similar to Chavez in this regard, the working class in Bolivia havent made gains like those made in Venezuela, but hopefully they will be able to.

    There will come a point when Chavez and Morales present more of a problem for the working people of their respective countries. I liken them both to Allende in Chile.
     
  11. Stereotype V.001

    Stereotype V.001 Member

    Joined: Jun 9, 2005 Messages: 416 Likes Received: 0
    Oh, Chavez sent free oil to a few dozen New England families making sure it was widely reported...while millions of his own people (who he can see from his window) starve and live in squalor that someone who enjoys the high standards of living in this country couldn't imagine. Yeah, that wasn't a political stunt. And he wants us to send an anti-castro terrorist home to be executed...what imperialist pigs we are. And about his state run, media la extravaganza, talk show....I wasn't arguing the effectiveness of his propaganda.

    Did you not notice the articles from HRW and AI? BTW, how do you respond to Chavez's actions outlined there? Deny them, accept the deaths of a few people and the lack of human rights, or admit Chavez is actualy a douchebag and you were wrong? And I only quote the BBC because every other media outlet is controlled by gay CIA pornstar hookers.....no, really, that's why.
     
  12. MAR

    MAR Veteran Member

    Joined: Jun 2, 2005 Messages: 7,264 Likes Received: 256
    Leave Israel out of this. We can take care of ourselves. If we want US help we'll say so.
     
  13. Stereotype V.001

    Stereotype V.001 Member

    Joined: Jun 9, 2005 Messages: 416 Likes Received: 0
    I like Morales alot more than I like Chavez....I don't like the ties he has with the drug industry. Bolivia is what, the second largest cocaine producing country? His stance is basically "no no, we're growing these coca plants to make....blankets, and..paper! Yes, white, powdery, mind-altering, highly addictive, paper."
     
  14. lord_casek

    lord_casek 12oz Royalty

    Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Messages: 27,078 Likes Received: 1,007
    Oh, Chavez sent free oil to a few dozen New England families making sure it was widely reported...while millions of his own people (who he can see from his window) starve and live in squalor that someone who enjoys the high standards of living in this country couldn't imagine. Yeah, that wasn't a political stunt. And he wants us to send an anti-castro terrorist home to be executed...what imperialist pigs we are. And about his state run, media la extravaganza, talk show....I wasn't arguing the effectiveness of his propaganda.

    Did you not notice the articles from HRW and AI? BTW, how do you respond to Chavez's actions outlined there? Deny them, accept the deaths of a few people and the lack of human rights, or admit Chavez is actualy a douchebag and you were wrong? And I only quote the BBC because every other media outlet is controlled by gay CIA pornstar hookers.....no, really, that's why.
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    wow, propaganda, genocide, bathing in money while the poor starve...sounds like you're reading out of american history 101.

    the cia is more involved in the media that you will ever know.
    and jeff gannon has been reported to be seen going in and out of the whitehouse with several male prostitutes on several instances.

    stop being such a lapdog for the republicrats.
     
  15. BAN-THIS!!!

    BAN-THIS!!! Junior Member

    Joined: Mar 1, 2006 Messages: 141 Likes Received: 0
    Stereotype are you getting paid to spout all this bogus propoganda? What's your deal homie?
     
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