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Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by rubbish heap, Dec 3, 2003.

  1. religion

    religion Member

    Joined: Aug 21, 2002 Messages: 288 Likes Received: 2
    So after years of not posting.... And actually using and trying almost every type of ink and paint mixes in my absence, I've learned the following: How well an ink stains, and how well an ink weathers are two completely separate things, and the only way to get an ink that will do both well. Use a UV resistant base ink. T-Grade being the standard for my base, although I find its tackiness a growing concern. It clogs on contact with water beads and has ruined my night a few times. I used to use Garvey to dilute the T-Grade but found that it compromised the opacity and lightfastness to much even at minimal dilution. Now, I use tgrade (50%) mixed with any other alcohol based ink (30%) to reduce tack, and a dash of speedflow (20%) for extra UV protection. A sprinkling of GV/MB/WHY and that's it! I've been tagging for coming up on 18 years now, and I've gotta say this is the holy grail of ink for me. Don't get it twisted... I've spent days and gallons of ink mixing, experimenting, trial & error getting to this. I'll often now use a lighter color for the filler (alcohol) ink which can add nice highlights in this hot mess of vandalicious delight. For me brake fluid is a joke, as are most dyes and alcohol based inks as they cannot handle the weather here. Between the constant rain & sun, and lifestyle of a ruthless hustler, I don't have time for anything less than the best... and this is it my friends.... Enjoy. And if you can't afford it, you shouldn't use it. Speedflow is the bidness though.
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  2. HARVEY21

    HARVEY21 New Jack

    Joined: May 18, 2015 Messages: 1 Likes Received: 0
    the cap off and hold onto the plastic part and screw to the right
  3. slothssydney

    slothssydney New Jack

    Joined: Jul 10, 2015 Messages: 22 Likes Received: 1
    I was struggling with my molotow marker so.i used a pair of vice grips :)
  4. slothssydney

    slothssydney New Jack

    Joined: Jul 10, 2015 Messages: 22 Likes Received: 1
    Can you buff acid etch on metal?
  5. ilthesphinx

    ilthesphinx New Jack

    Joined: Jan 4, 2015 Messages: 1 Likes Received: 0
    Yo so what do you guys think of this recipe:
    Nero leather dye
    GV liquid
    MB liquid
    PP powder.
    Mix all of that shit together well making sure there is no clumps of anything.
    I want to try boiling it all together but getting cancer doesn't sound fun especially cause I don't know what Im doing.
    Any advice?
  6. breakfast menu

    breakfast menu Member

    Joined: Dec 23, 2014 Messages: 684 Likes Received: 163
    i would start with 2-3 of those mixed if you don't know what you're doing (i barely do).
    don't really need to boil it.

  7. ~KRYLON2~

    ~KRYLON2~ 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Oct 13, 2001 Messages: 10,475 Likes Received: 203
    we have ourselves some mad scientists up in here. I just stick with t grade and xt70. sometimes mix in pen ink if I'm running low on t grade or xt70
  8. Medser

    Medser New Jack

    Joined: Apr 13, 2016 Messages: 5 Likes Received: 2
    Ha nice
  9. Medser

    Medser New Jack

    Joined: Apr 13, 2016 Messages: 5 Likes Received: 2
    Hello guys and girls im in my forties in the uk and killin it I boil my ink fiebings red and purple blue inferno and creasote killer stains get on it
  10. Medser

    Medser New Jack

    Joined: Apr 13, 2016 Messages: 5 Likes Received: 2
    What a dope site this is man I love this shit
  11. Baggedmilk

    Baggedmilk New Jack

    Joined: Apr 23, 2016 Messages: 10 Likes Received: 0
    Black Parker Quink
    Diamine Denim
    74% isopropyl alcohol
    lots of pens and sharpies
    two caps of dot 3
    lil bit of charcoal
    and some car polishing type shits who's labels say they're UV resistant and water resistant.

    I've used this brew a couple times before in my mops, but have yet to establish the best ratio for the ingredients. Or at least I haven't measured it. Otherwise it's pretty sexy.
  12. Baggedmilk

    Baggedmilk New Jack

    Joined: Apr 23, 2016 Messages: 10 Likes Received: 0
    Curious has anyone ever experimented with iron gall ink as a base?


    Joined: May 12, 2016 Messages: 1 Likes Received: 0
    CAN YOU HOOK ME SOME XYLENE KNOWLEDGE PLEASE? what type of inks, what type of markers are available and how large a range?
  14. mosca

    mosca New Jack

    Joined: May 15, 2016 Messages: 5 Likes Received: 2
    im guessing he meant something like smash ink when mentioning xylene but for the most part xylene is used for thinning paint and itll eat the fuck out of any plastic based mop/marker if you leave it long enough

    to make some shit like that get some silver metal rust paint, dunno what youd call it in america i guess just rustoleum bucket paint. they do it in small 250ml tins so get that and mix it with 3 or 4/5ths thinner (so 250ml paint/200ml thinner), stir the fuck out of it and put in a mop or whatever shit, basically just the same ghetto krink recipe thats being floating around for the last 15 year. im from britain so i tend to get these two:


    that thinner is xylene based but if youre leaving paint in a mop long enough for it to eat through and leak you're shite
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  15. Baggedmilk

    Baggedmilk New Jack

    Joined: Apr 23, 2016 Messages: 10 Likes Received: 0
    Just made some more ink and used some more accurate measurements. 150 pens, 1 1/4 cups 91% isopropyl alcohol, 1/4 cups purple PVC primer. I should have either used less alcohol or just kept the brew the same, because I'm starting to notice when I add any amount of charcoal to the mix with the expectation of it becoming thicker, it just leaves hateful wet clumps in my mop. I've heard various types of powders referenced to be used as thickening agents? Are we talking like baby powder or what?