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How to get away...even when you get caught...

Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by porque, Jun 10, 2002.

  1. porque

    porque Senior Member

    Joined: May 5, 2002 Messages: 1,844 Likes Received: 0
    I have looked around on here and i haven't found anywhere where advice is given on what you can do if you get stopped by the police...so i'm gonna offer some...
    first off lets understand this hypethetical situation: you are out bombing, you have a typical messenger bag with paint in it: you are riding on a bike:
    you are seen by a police officer and he decides to stop you... the first thing he will ask is to look in your bag... unless he has actually observed you painting, he does not have the right to search your bag... he will say things like what do you have to hide?... respond by saying it is your right to privacy... this can save you in most cases from them actually getting anything on you and chargeing you... but also remember that you need to wear gloves to keep paint off your fingers b/c if you have red paint on your finger, and the alley you just came from has a fresh red tag in it, then they have probable cause to search you and you will be caught... If you are actualy seen painting you're pretty much fucked...my advice is run and hide and then hide longer

    ....i know this probably isn't the most coherent thing in the world so if anyone has any questions please ask...i have dealt with a few situations like the above and have adone a lot of research on the laws...plus i have lawyers in my family and they told me some intersting things too...
     
  2. moonstrahl

    moonstrahl Junior Member

    Joined: Jun 5, 2002 Messages: 194 Likes Received: 0
    Hmmm I feel like that is a good topic. Definitely know your rights!!! I got stopped a while back, and I actually told the guy that I saw someone else doing the painting, and told him to cut the shit. The cop bought it and gave chase after an apparantly armed and dangerous subject, finding nothing but a dog..
     
  3. nickonium9

    nickonium9 New Jack

    Joined: May 28, 2002 Messages: 75 Likes Received: 0
    The question is, though, if not allowing them to search your bag incriminates yourself and gives them probable cause.
     
  4. dice

    dice Guest

    neary all the popular peace spots in northampton england(my home town) .are next to a river what are the chances, that a copper would follow you into a river and can a dog bite u whilst it is swimming:cool:
     
  5. JoeHatesCops

    JoeHatesCops Guest

    yeah and if your wearing gloves take them off when you walk from spot to spot, take that word of advice from dumbass over here, cop thought i was a jewel thief or burglar or something, but i just told him i had a kinky girlfreind and i was just coming home from her house and i forgot to take the gloves off, he bought it. lol
     
  6. CRone

    CRone Guest


    :crazy:


    hahahahaha
     
  7. 87centHitMan

    87centHitMan Guest

    If that was incriminating, there would be no point in in fourth amendment rights at all. Declining a search is in no way incriminating. It is your basic fucking right. They WILL ask you things like, "Well, if there's nothing to hide, there's no reason to not let me search" or "OK fine, i'll just get a canine unit out here" Just keep saying you don't want searched, and mention your fourth amendment right. Never consent to a search, put up a fight until they either go away or search you against your will. If they know that you know what your rights are, they can't walk all over you. If there's no probable cause (pot smoke in the air, rattling cans, warrants, etc.) there is no reason for a search, PLAIN AND SIMPLE! Another thing, too, Always, always wear your gloves. I look at it the same way as wearing condoms. If you don't wanna catch STD's like AIDS or KIDS wrap your shit up! If you don't want to catch charges like criminal mischeif, railroad mischeif, etc. WEAR GLOVES! If there's no paint on your hands, even if you're standing next to a wet piece, you're just an innocent bystander. And don't fuck it up by letting them see your glove on your hand, either. Take it off, hide it, throw it away, something! I've been in this situation before, and escaped cleanly! Even if you hate gloves, If you're hitting up street, wear it! It'll save your ass one of these days!
     
  8. moonstrahl

    moonstrahl Junior Member

    Joined: Jun 5, 2002 Messages: 194 Likes Received: 0
    Booyah 87centman. I totally agree with the gloves rubber reference. It might actually be worth while to carry a plastic bag with ya so that you can put 'em away without soiling your pants, then again who goes painting in their sunday best.

    One other thing to mention is: you are running for your ass, they are running for their job, who wants to run faster...? Believe in your self, and always try to cut through water so that they can't dog ya.
     
  9. porque

    porque Senior Member

    Joined: May 5, 2002 Messages: 1,844 Likes Received: 0
    refuseing to allow them to search you in no way incriminates you...simply ask to see the search warrant...when they can't produce one tell them you see no reason why you are being detained and walk away...most of the time if they push things further THEY are the ones breakig the law and anything that happens will be counted as inadmisable in court which means you're scott free...
    Another important thing to remember is that it is not against the law to carry paint around...it is only against the law to use that paint illegally...so unless they SEE you doing something you're usually ok.
     
  10. NoEZ

    NoEZ New Jack

    Joined: Dec 25, 2001 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    Another important thing to remember is that it is not against the law to carry paint around...it is only against the law to use that paint illegally...so unless they SEE you doing something you're usually ok. -porque

    unless of caurse your under 18 which means you cant buy paint...then i think it would matter..but if your over 18 then thats tru..you might just be coming back form a friends house after painting bikes or car....
     
  11. porque

    porque Senior Member

    Joined: May 5, 2002 Messages: 1,844 Likes Received: 0
    ...it may be illegal to buy paint if you're under 18, (it's not where i am, but state laws vary), but it probably isn't illegal to posses it...
     
  12. jeff123456

    jeff123456 Member

    Joined: Jan 17, 2002 Messages: 273 Likes Received: 0
    no it doesnt.. what the fuck are u talking about
     
  13. porque

    porque Senior Member

    Joined: May 5, 2002 Messages: 1,844 Likes Received: 0
    i guess it should be stated that this stuff really only applies to US i have no idea what the laws and rights are in any countries of europe...
     
  14. jeff123456

    jeff123456 Member

    Joined: Jan 17, 2002 Messages: 273 Likes Received: 0
    on the show C.O.P.S this cop was driving down the street and he looked at thease 2 guys and he said to the camera man thease are graffiti vandals. (u could just tell by looking at them)He got out of the car and started talking to them...The cop asked if he could look in the bag and the 2 guys said sure. There was atleast 10 cans in the bag along with some markers and stickers. The cop knew the guys were graffiti vandals but since the cop didnt see them painting he's well like im gonna have to let them go since we didnt actually catch them in the act. He checked there hands for paint and they were clean. Just as he was letting them go this bitch lady ran up to the police officer and said she saw thease boys putting up stickers on a sign. So then there were arrested and went back to the station...
     
  15. KINGREAL

    KINGREAL Member

    Joined: Mar 23, 2001 Messages: 438 Likes Received: 0
    ^^^^^

    Haha seen that...a white and asian kid from Frisco!!
     
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