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Discussion in 'Metal Heads' started by Average White Railfan, Dec 26, 2001.

  1. Average White Railfan

    Average White Railfan Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 2, 2001 Messages: 1,120 Likes Received: 0
    i wanted to kind get a little idea about something. i know everyone sees 54' grey private covered hoppers. i see them a lot running out here. in previous nights i had the pleasure of getting up close and personal with one. problem is the kids i went with were hesitent because the massive amounts of buff marks we see riding on these. for a long time i steered clear of these because of those buff marks. over the last couple of years however, ive noticed that what gets buffed on these is hollows and tags. because when you see the graffiti sticking out of the buff 8 out of 10 times its a tag or a big hollow. ive seen pieces run on these from 1995 and 1996. does anyone else share this or a contrary view of these type/class of cars from their own benching/writing experience that would help me get a better understanding of what these cars look like outside my own riegon.
  2. BIG T

    BIG T Member

    Joined: Sep 20, 2000 Messages: 976 Likes Received: 2
    i agree with you, i saw one the other week where the piece was left but the other side had buff marks the size of tags... wonder why they do it like that??? weird ass train people dont even like a nice handstyle!:D :D
  3. Willy Wonker

    Willy Wonker Junior Member

    Joined: Oct 11, 2001 Messages: 192 Likes Received: 0
    Over here it seems to be the opposite of what you are saying... they usually buff the pieces and leave all the hollows.scripts.and the toy bullshit(I Love so and so)....

    I don't know...I try not to paint hoppers...


    CRUSH KILL DESTROY Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 4, 2001 Messages: 7,216 Likes Received: 1
    i see them buffed alot but i also see some crushed dating back a few years, its just luck of the draw, i think it may also depend on the loads, if its hazordous etc,
  5. T.T Boy

    T.T Boy Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 18, 2001 Messages: 21,803 Likes Received: 41
    i see them at a spot where they are brand fucking new and are used for hauling some very dangerous chemicals, so i wouldnt really know about older ones, but ive seen a few with old pieces on them, like real old stuff. hardly any tags and hiollows
  6. ive seen alot of older nahx hoppers running, stuff from 95/96-97. alot of what ive seen seems to be localized though. short chessie hoppers/short csx hoppers, dont get the buff too often, although they're pretty on top of the stamp. cnw hoppers run and get the good play, same with the cotton belts ive painted. as for the no names, they dont seem to come back or get spotted so its hard to tell, of course, this is all personal experience and it may be alot different elsewhere.

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  8. Cracked Ass

    Cracked Ass Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 24, 2001 Messages: 7,898 Likes Received: 47
    I have no evidence in my area to suggest that hoppers get the buff any worse than the AVERAGE for boxcars. Some companies buff boxes harder than others, and it looks to me like the same is true for hoppers. I've seen old hopper stuff running, I've seen buffed hoppers of different brands, and no one brand of hopper sticks out in my mind as being buffed hardcore. I saw one of my hoppers come back buffed recently, but others I know travel with it were unharmed.
    I think people who said "hit em, it's all a gamble" have the right idea. The only reason I don't exert myself on hoppers is the inferior way they get play. They are full of boring bulk products, low priority, so they often sit for a long time at both ends of each trip - sometimes months. I'll just bomb em, piece em if there's no better cars to piece. My favorite approach on a clean hopper is a 3 or 4 color big piece with no fill but all the usual trimmings, it's an up and it saves paint for more worthwhile cars.
    I think everybody should try to hit hoppers. It isn't just the buff - there's too many clean, virgin hoppers out there.
  9. Southern kid

    Southern kid Elite Member

    Joined: Apr 19, 2000 Messages: 3,965 Likes Received: 0
    im the fucking hopper king. all i get is hoppers..so i know quite a bit about them. BMC..those nahx's are here too...so i dont know how the locality of those go. hoppers here have buff marks all over them too...what i have noticed..is the e2e's tend to catch the buff the most..or just scrawling that covers e2e of the car. the stray piece seems to always dodge the buff. like cracked said..it all depends on the company also. cotton belts..sou pacs..golden west service..all of those tend to have a lot of important information on them. the GWS always have two nice 'panels' on them. if i hit one of those i piece in that little panel with no information. i've never seen a piece come back on one of those so i dont know if i survived the buff. hoppers are just like anything esle..gambling. i think hoppers also tend to be the 'write on car.' any strange kid with a can tends to write on these for some reason..probably because its flat all the way across. wouldnt it seem logical if a strange kid had a can and one type car of each? i know if i had no experience with a can i wouldnt write on something with a ridge. i have noticed that acf's often have buff marks on them. acf may be one of those 'buffing companys. hope that helped.......
  10. hobbesv2

    hobbesv2 Member

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  11. Secs Oner

    Secs Oner Senior Member

    Joined: May 17, 2000 Messages: 1,111 Likes Received: 0
    can anyone tell me where i can trace UTCX hoppers?
  12. sober

    sober Guest

    utcx hoppers go on all lines. nahx are leased alot of times. they mostly frequent canada. dont do floater peices that look like new york wildstyle walls with sunset backgrounds on hoppers, it makes me laugh at you...
  13. T.T Boy

    T.T Boy Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 18, 2001 Messages: 21,803 Likes Received: 41
    i get a ton of nahx hoppers here, only at a few spots tho, they haul some wierd shit, and they usually never enter the city, just sit at factory layups, and theyre usually bare, but everyonce in a while they get westcoast stuff on em. i dont know if they have the best routes id have to do some more research.
  14. DankLordz

    DankLordz Senior Member

    Joined: Nov 13, 2000 Messages: 1,983 Likes Received: 0
    i second the crush hoppers movement, i see whole lines here that havent even been touched.. no buff is evident, just no kids hitting them. booo
  15. rolldafukout

    rolldafukout Guest

    i use to paint them backin 97-98, i dont like them as much, they leak crap all over your piece within a year it seems, we do alot of throwups on them though! it's all about boxcars