El Producto Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 so i was wondering, is there any homosexuals on 12oz??..im still young so i dont think ive made contact with any gay people (or at least people who will admit it)...but i generally dont like fags...i wouldnt say im homophobic, like i wouldnt just beat them up for no reason..but i dont think i could ever be freinds with a faggot....your opinions??? maybe this has been done.. edit*spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinup Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Nekro is completely totally going to punish you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 i have no problem with gay women... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 i know, your right...its just that if i see 2 women kissing or whatever, it doesnt bother me (obviously)..but just the thought of a man being attracted to another man pisses me off....i know i am wrong, but its just the way i think..i cant change that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfffffffffft Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 gay people smell funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecarwreck Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Cilone, word up. It's refreshing to read rational thoughts. But yo, El P, even though you're "not homophobic" by your account, simply using words like "fag" and "faggot," shows that you have an ingrained homophobia. Thats like saying (and I know this parallel isn't ideal) "i'm not racist, i don't hate niggers" or "i'm not sexist, i love fucking bitches" which is surely fucked up and (should be) unthinkable by anyone with half an ounce of intelligence. i mean, if all it takes to be not homophobic (or racist, or sexist) is not beating the shit out of them, that's pretty weak. Not ragging on you man, I get that you're young and probably pretty sheltered from any situation where you would encounter someone wholly unlike yourself... that's cool and all; but recognizing the way society indoctrinates certain (namely, unfortunately, christian) mentalities into its citizens is a good place to start. And yes, I'm sure there are gay people on 12 ounce.... probably bi too... imagine that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecarwreck Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by El Producto i know, your right...its just that if i see 2 women kissing or whatever, it doesnt bother me (obviously)..but just the thought of a man being attracted to another man pisses me off....i know i am wrong, but its just the way i think..i cant change that haha, seriously man, if you had ever met any legit lesbians you wouldn't be sticking that "obviously" in there. the porn lesbians have to make the (predominately) male viewer think that he could, somehow, worm his way between them... REAL lesbians want nothing to do with the cock or what's attached to it in the same way you don't... and yes, you CAN change the way you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 thecarwreck..i completley understand what your saying...i was just thinking that if i had been socialising with gay people over the net, thinking they were real nice people and i would have never known (not saying that gays are horrible people or whatever) im sure the above statment is gonna come out wrong..as i said, i dont think im homophobic, i just dont think i could communicate with a gay man and not feel uncomfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by thecarwreck haha, seriously man, if you had ever met any legit lesbians you wouldn't be sticking that "obviously" in there. the porn lesbians have to make the (predominately) male viewer think that he could, somehow, worm his way between them... REAL lesbians want nothing to do with the cock or what's attached to it in the same way you don't... and yes, you CAN change the way you think. yeah true..i dont think i could change the way i think...i could say to myself "right, im gonna think differently about this" but i dont think my mind could actually change about gay people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecarwreck Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 no man, i dig what you're saying.. and it's important to recognize that you're not just "fuck fags! i fucking hate queers!" right out of the gate. that says something about your willingness to open your mind up beyond the status quo. that's a start. but it is just a start. if it makes you feel any better, i'm not gay... but that's not much different than saying "i don't have green eyes" (which is a flawed analogy in itself but will serve for the time being). the bible ruined a lot of straight people's chances at openmindedness about homosexuality... for some rason "love thine neighbor" doesn't apply in this case? lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecarwreck Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by El Producto yeah true..i dont think i could change the way i think...i could say to myself "right, im gonna think differently about this" but i dont think my mind could actually change about gay people shit, i type too slowly to have a conversation on this thing... anyway, if you begin to remove the stereotypes and homophobic bullshit that pervades the society you will, unconsciously, begin to think differently and your mind will obviously follow suit. that's all it really takes. and yet it seems so simple.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanity Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 i have no prob w/ the concept of homosexuality, and i'm sure there's a lot of cool cats out there. however, w/ most gay people i have encountered, the impression i got was that a key factor for their 'preference' was basically insecurity and looking for a place to belong/some means to boost their ego. them cats is fags forilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AORAone Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 gay people are cool as hell. the way i see it is, more women for me. hahahahah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 i just wouldnt like to be talking to a guy who could be thinking about his cock in my ass...if im wrong for thinking that ill eat my hat.. (i didnt mean for that to rhyme) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIZENO Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 EL P, your agression shows in the way you are speaking. To me, I am going out on a limb here, it seems you are afraid of them. You feel very uncomfortable with even the thought of gay sexual activity. You have been made to feel its ok for girls to act that way, by how our culture looks at gay vs. the way all guys talk about girl on girl action !!! It just shows you are a child of our wonderful culture. Your position in this is not a surprise in any way ... it will just be up to you if you want to grow past the conditioning you have been given. its up to you to change your view of this. it is just in how you decide how to view the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 where the hell is nekro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 i honestly cant believe that this shit still is even worthy of discussion. then again, look how retarded we all are about race, so i guess it makes sense. gernally speaking, gay guys have been some of the friendliest, easy to be around people ive ever met. there are exceptions (on both sides) of course, but the idea that they just sit around dreaming of my cock is bullshit. and so what if they do? i guess that just means i'm hot, right? i dont particularly care for flamboyantly gay guys that openly talk about how much they love 'dick', but im just as (if not more) disgusted by openly hetero guys who talk nonstop about how much they love 'bitches'. both are unecessary to me, but truthfully, if i had to chose one, i'd rather listen to the gay guy, because atleast then i dont have to listen to women being objectified like hetero guys do. guys calling women 'bitches' in some sort of complimentary term is fucking disgusting to me. if you want to hate women, fine, but as someone commented earlier, 'i love bitches' is ignorant on so many levels. el producto, i'm glad you can admit that you're wrong, but the idea that you can't change is a total cop out. anyone can change. all it takes is one positive encounter to change your whole perception of things. i think alot of your views, or atleast the way you express them, stem from your insecurity of being hasseled by your friends. the fact that you would even start this thread show's you're more accepting, or atleast willing to discuss the topic, than you're willing to admit. so why be half ignorant? just admit and accept that people can do whatever they want with their lives, and it has no effect on you. at the very least, gay guys always have hot, straight women friends. that's reason enough to want to be down with some gay guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by seeking just admit and accept that people can do whatever they want with their lives, and it has no effect on you. . i do admit that...i never said they shouldnt have the choice to do what they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinup Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by iloveboxcars where the hell is nekro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by Pinup so im taking it nekro's gay then?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseguy Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by El Producto i just wouldnt like to be talking to a guy who could be thinking about his cock in my ass contrary to what you may think, gay men are not desperate to fuck you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_b0b Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 El Producto you have an awful lot of growing up to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_b0b Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by El Producto i know i am wrong, but its just the way i think..i cant change that Actually you can change that easily. Get over it. Hating on someone for a preference that doesn;t harm anyone else is weak. Sounds like you are a little insecure about your own sexuality to me, as the people that hate on gay folks usually are desperate to prove themselves hetro in some way. Live and let live (as long as no one is being harmed in anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Europe Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Oh my god, welcome to the real world, watch out for all the gays out there, they will all try to fuck you... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by b0b El Producto you have an awful lot of growing up to do. [/quote i know i do...im only 15:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathoræ Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 it saddens me to see things like this... Originally posted by El Producto i just wouldnt like to be talking to a guy who could be thinking about his cock in my ass...if im wrong for thinking that ill eat my hat... For all you know, you could talk to an extremely gorgeous woman who is thinking about sticking her huge strap-on dildo in your ass. It's all the same. How old are you? I'm not going to try to bash you because of your age, but as you get older and experience more things, you're not going to be so close-minded. *edit* I'm a slow typer... just saw your post above... If you would really like to understand, try educating yourself. Read about homosexual lifestyles (try doing a search at http://www.sexuality.org or another sex education website). Read about Matthew Shephard and try to understand where this kind of thinking can escalate to something like that. Try talking to someone who is homosexual. Ask them questions. Ask a lesbian (a mature one, not some high school girl still questioning herself) if you don't want to take the chance to talk to a homosexual male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by El Producto i have no problem with gay women... Dude, have you seen any real life lesbians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 maybe if you live a sheltered life where minorities and deviants dont exist, then you can go on hating people for no good reason. If you live in a place that's slightly diverse you will have to learn to deal with other people's opinons and orientations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slave_one Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 i read an old thread on here about being gay; if i could find it i would bump it bcuz it had a lot of serious posts in it; particularly from this woman (who i believe is gay and irish); she definitely had some shit to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 her name is bodice_ripper is that helps you search it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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