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Homophobic??

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by El Producto, Jun 15, 2004.

  1. El Producto

    El Producto 12oz Senior Member

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    Homophobic??

    Discussion started by El Producto - Jun 15, 2004

    so i was wondering, is there any homosexuals on 12oz??..im still young so i dont think ive made contact with any gay people (or at least people who will admit it)...but i generally dont like fags...i wouldnt say im homophobic, like i wouldnt just beat them up for no reason..but i dont think i could ever be freinds with a faggot....your opinions???


    maybe this has been done..

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    Pinup - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    Nekro is completely totally going to punish you.
     
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  3. El Producto

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    El Producto - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    i have no problem with gay women...
     
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    El Producto - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    i know, your right...its just that if i see 2 women kissing or whatever, it doesnt bother me (obviously)..but just the thought of a man being attracted to another man pisses me off....i know i am wrong, but its just the way i think..i cant change that
     
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    Pfffffffffft - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    gay people smell funny
     
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    thecarwreck - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    Cilone, word up. It's refreshing to read rational thoughts.

    But yo, El P, even though you're "not homophobic" by your account, simply using words like "fag" and "faggot," shows that you have an ingrained homophobia. Thats like saying (and I know this parallel isn't ideal) "i'm not racist, i don't hate niggers" or "i'm not sexist, i love fucking bitches" which is surely fucked up and (should be) unthinkable by anyone with half an ounce of intelligence. i mean, if all it takes to be not homophobic (or racist, or sexist) is not beating the shit out of them, that's pretty weak.

    Not ragging on you man, I get that you're young and probably pretty sheltered from any situation where you would encounter someone wholly unlike yourself... that's cool and all; but recognizing the way society indoctrinates certain (namely, unfortunately, christian) mentalities into its citizens is a good place to start.

    And yes, I'm sure there are gay people on 12 ounce.... probably bi too... imagine that...
     
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    thecarwreck - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    haha, seriously man, if you had ever met any legit lesbians you wouldn't be sticking that "obviously" in there. the porn lesbians have to make the (predominately) male viewer think that he could, somehow, worm his way between them... REAL lesbians want nothing to do with the cock or what's attached to it in the same way you don't...

    and yes, you CAN change the way you think.
     
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    El Producto - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    thecarwreck..i completley understand what your saying...i was just thinking that if i had been socialising with gay people over the net, thinking they were real nice people and i would have never known (not saying that gays are horrible people or whatever)

    im sure the above statment is gonna come out wrong..as i said, i dont think im homophobic, i just dont think i could communicate with a gay man and not feel uncomfortable
     
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    El Producto - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    yeah true..i dont think i could change the way i think...i could say to myself "right, im gonna think differently about this" but i dont think my mind could actually change about gay people
     
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    thecarwreck - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    no man, i dig what you're saying.. and it's important to recognize that you're not just "fuck fags! i fucking hate queers!" right out of the gate. that says something about your willingness to open your mind up beyond the status quo. that's a start. but it is just a start.

    if it makes you feel any better, i'm not gay... but that's not much different than saying "i don't have green eyes" (which is a flawed analogy in itself but will serve for the time being). the bible ruined a lot of straight people's chances at openmindedness about homosexuality... for some rason "love thine neighbor" doesn't apply in this case? lame.
     
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    thecarwreck - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    shit, i type too slowly to have a conversation on this thing...


    anyway, if you begin to remove the stereotypes and homophobic bullshit that pervades the society you will, unconsciously, begin to think differently and your mind will obviously follow suit. that's all it really takes.

    and yet it seems so simple....
     
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    Vanity - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    i have no prob w/ the concept of homosexuality, and i'm sure there's a lot of cool cats out there.

    however, w/ most gay people i have encountered, the impression i got was that a key factor for their 'preference' was basically insecurity and looking for a place to belong/some means to boost their ego.

    them cats is fags forilla
     
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    AORAone - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    gay people are cool as hell. the way i see it is, more women for me. hahahahah.
     
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    El Producto - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    i just wouldnt like to be talking to a guy who could be thinking about his cock in my ass...if im wrong for thinking that ill eat my hat..



    (i didnt mean for that to rhyme)
     
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    ERIZENO - Replied Jun 15, 2004

    EL P,
    your agression shows in the way you are speaking. To me, I am going out on a limb here, it seems you are afraid of them. You feel very uncomfortable with even the thought of gay sexual activity.

    You have been made to feel its ok for girls to act that way, by how our culture looks at gay vs. the way all guys talk about girl on girl action !!!

    It just shows you are a child of our wonderful culture. Your position in this is not a surprise in any way ... it will just be up to you if you want to grow past the conditioning you have been given.

    its up to you to change your view of this. it is just in how you decide how to view the world.
     
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