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Hey, waste your time at this crazy fucking web site.

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Tre$Loco$, Mar 22, 2004.

  1. Tre$Loco$

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    Hey, waste your time at this crazy fucking web site.

    Discussion started by Tre$Loco$ - Mar 22, 2004

    http://JohnTitor.com

    Go there and freak yourself out for an hour while your drunk and/or stoned. I bet you'll read about it forever even though you think its fake.
     
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    wa5te_pHk - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    that is some of the coolest shit i ve ever read. ill wait to read other peoples viewpoints before i comment.

    EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS:king:
     
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    duh-rye-won - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    :rolleyes: :nope:
     
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    mr.yuck - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    Hahaha. Yo this shit is straight outta the 12 oz past. I promise. We can hop into the 'search' time machine and read the same damn thing. Hahah. It's cool non the less and good for the new kids that might still have some what of a life left.
     
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    iloveboxcars - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    so I read through more of it since reading what theohuxtable quoted, and I'd like to congratulate john titor on a job well done. This guy is a genious, and if I had the knowledge of all the things he had I'd probably do the same thing. Bravo, bravo.
     
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  6. Dick Quickwood

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    Dick Quickwood - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    i remember reading that, however i'm not sure when, it must have been a good while ago
     
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    iloveboxcars - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    or maybe it was just now and you timetraveled.
     
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    Dick Quickwood - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    :shook: maybe so
     
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    wa5te_pHk - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    ^^^^hahahaha
     
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    TheoHuxtable - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    I really don't believe this, but I looked further into it and found an interesting response to this "John Titor" phenomena:

    Posted by: Baj | January 2, 2004 11:06 AM

    Just as a note, I do not believe that the John Titor story is real. Many credited physicists interested in the story have given their thoughts and more or less "prooved" that his physics are flawed. Nevertheless, there is a slim chance he is telling the truth. I will get to that later and explain why there might be a possibility, despite being "disproven" on many levels. As I said before, I do not believe that it is true by any stretch, but it is still a very interesting story.

    First I would like to note that the story itself is extremely well put together. After reading the whole of his writings, which I found on www.johntitor.com, I noticed only two major contradictions in his writings. The first was that he stated that "...we do not pay income taxes", but a few months later, he stated "...we do have an IRS and collect taxes." He later explained this, although it was definently a slip up - then again, even someone telling the truth occasionally "slips up" over a long period of time (he was posting for four months - it wasn't a one night stand.) The second was on women's rights, in which he stated earlier that "women are equal, but they often stay home moreso then males", but later on he said that they were equal in all forms, and there were no real differences.

    Secondly, the insights that he provides on Western culture and the political status of the nation is most interesting. Even though most of his "predicitions" were most likely educated guesses, they do hold a great deal of insight on the way we leave and what we take for granted, along with how our liberties are slowly being stripped away from us.

    Lastly, his predictions are amazingly accurate. Unlike many "OMGz!!! I'M A TIME TRAVLER!" stories I have read, his had very few predictions to the future. It is a well known tactic for pyschics and such to simply provide such a great number of possibilities that at least one of them come true, whereas John Titor provides very few. Here are just a few rather interesting excerpts: (keep in mind that all of this was posted before 9/11, etc.)

    -> "Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?" (one would obviously conclude a reference to the second Gulf War where Weapons of Mass Destructions were claimed to exist and have yet to be found.)

    -> "Care to share with me how you solved the overheating problem on your space plane?" (one would conclude a reference to the Columbia incident)

    -> "Telling you about impending plane crashes or other disasters (provided I could give you exact dates and times) may save lives at one point but cause cascading changes that take others at a later point." (Although a bit sketchy, one could draw a line to 9/11, especially with the "exact dates and time", though it's a bit far fetched.)

    He also makes numerous reference to civil liberties being stripped away (PATRIOT Act, anyone)?, along with Mad Cow Disease (and CJD, the human varient), which, if I recall correctly, was reported in the news a week or two ago.

    I'm well aware of the old statement that if you write enough garbage, some of it will come true, or if you write enough stuff, people will find "codes" or "hints" in it, and that is certainly true. That is personally what I believe, but John Titor is obviously a well educated and extremely bright man. He's as far from a nutcase as one can possibly be. He has brilliant insight into the human psyche, Western culture, etc.

    To answer some of the above questions about "if I went and killed John Titor here, he would never have come back..." is false (according to his story.) He quotes quantum theory that, in some variants, more or less states that there is a universe for every possible outcome and state. In a most simplistic view, there is a world in which Hitler won WWII, or where the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs did not impact the Earth, and T-Rex (yes, I know he died out before then, just using it for an exmaple) would still be ruling the Earth. In a more complex sense, it means that every possible *state* and time that a universe is in also exists, and even universes in which every physical law we understand simply breaks down. Anyway, that's besides the point.

    As I said, I sincerely doubt that this is true. However, I would just like to point out "the other side" of the issue, and show that his story is most interesting, relatively consistant, and the physics behind them are "somewhat sound" (although the practical application of them is more or less impossible, most scientists would agree.)

    Speaking of physics, I would like to bring an analogy I saw posted elsewhere on the issue. Take for example your average computer user of today. The majority of computer users will say that "sure, I know how a computer works!" when in fact they don't. (Do they know how hard drives work? Do they know what RAM is? What about memory pointers for it? How to processors work? How is data transferred in the computer? What does Ghz even mean?) So, let's take our "computer user" and send him back in time to the late 1950's and early 60's when computers were in their infancy and integrated circuits (basically, computers that used transistors versus vacuume tubes) just started being used and let that computer user explain to a computer scientists about computers of the year 2000. To them, what we take for granted ("CD-ROM drives", "mouses", and even monitors would completely foriegn to them) That's not a valid argument, many would say, but I believe that it is. I really think it helps illustrate how far we have come in the field of computers, and think about how far we've come in physics as well. Imagine Steven Hawking going back 40 years and trying to explain some modern theories to physicists of the 50's and 60's and he'd probably be laughed out of the auditorium.

    Once again, I would like you all to remember that I do not particularly believe the story of John Titor, but on the other hand, I would also like to point out the other side of the story. You can't just look at the story and say "lewl! he's a nutcase!" It is much deeper then that. Even though it probably isn't the story of a timetravel, it does give very interesting insights into Western culture, ideals, and politics.
     
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    mindvapors - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    wow. i dont know about u guys but ill be reading the restof his posts and be thinkin about this for awhile.
     
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    coldmilkcup - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    there, i just read through every single post on that site. there is a book on amazon.com that you can buy which has all of his posts in hard-copy, also a word from someone that claims she is his mother.
     
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    Telo - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    That is sooooooo 2003.
     
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    Zack Morris - Replied Mar 22, 2004

    I'm not trying to think of it as true of false because I will never know so if you ask me fuck that argument. Instead I am more thinking about what he had to say about humanity and how this time period is thaught of in "the future". It just made me stop and think of what can I personally do to stop some of these things he talked about from beoming a possibility o happening or how can I keep such situations from really effecting me.

    its like the war of the worlds for the internet.
     
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    mindvapors - Replied Mar 23, 2004

    exactly my thoughts.
     
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