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Hey Guys, Been awhile.

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by SilentBob, Dec 19, 2005.

  1. SilentBob

    SilentBob Member

    Joined: Dec 23, 2002 Messages: 683 Likes Received: 1
    Hey everyone. Its been a long time since I been on this thing. I don't really have time to explain what all I've been up to. But I do need your helps.

    I have been invited to do a roadtrip to Melbourne Australia (home of the aclaimmed ABC amongst other things...Its also my fav city to visit in Australia) I should have places to stay which means the only thing I'll be spending money on is booze, food, maybe paint, and possibly a plane back (they are cheap. Runs like $70 or so on a good day)

    The only thing is, I promised I'd do a show (some of you may or may not know i'm a hip hop mc) for these promoters I do part time work for (completely unrelated work, they promote on the side and asked me to do ish). If I go to melbourne it means I'll be pulling out of this gig. The gig isn't some huge event or anything. But its a good ice breaking op for working with these guys again, and by leaving them in the shit like this I'll probably not be able to do work for them again (even though I just talked to dude on the phone and he was pretty cool and mentioned there will be other oppurtunities). Plus they are nice guys and I'll feel like a total cunt.

    But on the other side I get to do a road trip with two of my good buddies from my graffiti crew (first traveling I've actually done with any of my graff homies) and I get to get the hell out of Sydney for new years eve and all that for the last time in 6 months (if I dont go now its not until I travel in July 06 )

    So what do you guys think? Run amuck in Melbourne, burn some nice people unintentionally, and get the hell out of riot prone shitty sydney long enough to keep my sane for 6 months? Or stay, do the right thing by my employees and save some extra cash?
  2. SilentBob

    SilentBob Member

    Joined: Dec 23, 2002 Messages: 683 Likes Received: 1
    Forgot to mention I'm leaving them with only a weeks notice. So so unproffesional (sp?)
  3. coffeedependency

    coffeedependency Senior Member

    Joined: Oct 8, 2004 Messages: 1,202 Likes Received: 0
    i'd be going to Melbourne.
    even though it makes you a bit of an asshole.
  4. coldmilkcup

    coldmilkcup Member

    Joined: Jun 10, 2002 Messages: 669 Likes Received: 0
    How long would the road trip to Melbourne be for?
  5. SilentBob

    SilentBob Member

    Joined: Dec 23, 2002 Messages: 683 Likes Received: 1
    about a week and a half. and coffee, thats really what I'm leaning to do. I just feel bad for those promoters. I'm thinking of calling up some people to take my place. This could lead to all kinds of bullshit though. So I don't know.
  6. deterrent

    deterrent Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 20, 2004 Messages: 5,181 Likes Received: 43
    Don't go get you stuff done.
  7. Politics&Bullshit

    Politics&Bullshit Junior Member

    Joined: Oct 14, 2005 Messages: 221 Likes Received: 0
  8. Sparoism

    Sparoism Guest

    Soooooooo.....from what you tell me, it sounds like you are a promoter, but I'm not sure if it's your full time gig or just a side thing you do.

    I use to promote/DJ as well in San Francisco in the early 90's. The perks are phenomenal- I used to get comped for just about everything the club/event had to offer 90% of the time (the other 10% fell under "club owners/hosts who are strictly in it for the money"). My social standing was, well...it was up there, higher than it is now, to be sure. I had NO PROBLEMS getting dates back then....good thing I have a steady girlfriend now (haha). And, if the host/club made good money and felt generous, I would usually get a little somethin' somethin' at the end of the night...basically, I'd get "tipped out", as it were.

    The things I don't miss- mostly the hours, and dealing with issues pertaining to doing large social events- permitting problems, flaky vendors, rockstar DJ attitudes, the occasional "incident" involving partygoers and either ambulances, fire department officals, or, of course, Mr. Johnny Law himself.

    If you have friends/associates in the business that you trust with your business and reputation, you could spend the next week networking like crazy and fill in the gaps that would be created by your absence. The upside to this is that you appear ro be resourceful and well-connected enough to pull off an event without actually having to be present for it. You can still have your name on the flyer (if there is one), and that will bump up your rep, of course.

    However, if things don't go as smoothly as planned (example-I learned how to DJ by filling in for AWOL performers on more than one...no, DOZENS of occasions), part of the blame almost always lies with the promoter, even if your headliner breaks his leg snowboarding or is unable to make it. It's unfair, it's crazy, but it's unavoidable. YOU may have the ability to fix a last-minute crisis, but this is hindered if you are in City B and the event is in City A and you can't pay your fill-in act his $1000 to play the gig....and, no one left in charge has the dough, and it's a Saturday and all the banks are closed. Gosh, it's all coming back to me, now! Unfortunately, at this point I can only recall the problems, not the parties. It goes without saying though, that if the party came off and you can remember it, you probably weren't there. That, or you weren't having too much fun.

    OR, you can scream, "DAD!!! HEART ATTACK!!! AIRPLANE!!! CAN'T TALK, CAN'T THINK!!! GOTTA GO!!!" in the phone and hope that no one in Melbourne who knows the organizers sees you out on the town there....hmmm. Dishonest, but 99% effective. You also have to remember the lie and be able to "maintain the fiction", as it were.

    I'm all in favor of vacation (as I haven't had one in some time) since I'm the "go-to" guy at my job and therefore not allowed to take prolonged leaves of absence. Fuckers.

    So, it can be done....it may kill the next week for you, but if you feel obligated to go and not leave them hanging, start calling in some favors and quick. And, hope for the best.

    Otherwise, sorry about your sister's "accident"...hope she gets "better" soon.

    Good luck.
  9. SilentBob

    SilentBob Member

    Joined: Dec 23, 2002 Messages: 683 Likes Received: 1
    um thanks for that huge reply. I was wondering what on earth you were typing here for so long. I'm actually not a promoter though, I'm an musician. That is I was booked by these promoters to preform. And I plan on going AWOL on them. (With only a cunty weeks notice). As for making up some shit. I already told one of them what was up on the phone (that is, that I was thinking about going to Melb's ) so that options out. It's not really my style anyway.
  10. Neskoner

    Neskoner New Jack

    Joined: Jan 6, 2003 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 1
    id rather goto melbourne..but im all the way in the middle of the us..do what you think is the right choice...the force lies within you.
  11. coldmilkcup

    coldmilkcup Member

    Joined: Jun 10, 2002 Messages: 669 Likes Received: 0
    MeLbOuRne Iz bY FaR KooLeR!

    If you run into any beef down here, just tell people that you are friends with coldmilkcup off 12oz.
  12. SilentBob

    SilentBob Member

    Joined: Dec 23, 2002 Messages: 683 Likes Received: 1
    Yeah I've thought it all through. And I really can't see myself not going to Melbourne. I'll be sure to make a Tshirt that says "Friends with Coldmilkcup" on the front and "Cant Touch This" on the back (with a photo of MC Hammer) before I go.

    Seriously though I think I'm much more likely to have beef here than Melbourne last time I went there people were very chilled. That is until you tell them your from Sydney.
  13. Sparoism

    Sparoism Guest

    My friend met MC Hammer the other night. He was assisting at the scene of a car accident in Oakland. Dead serious...he even got an autograph.

    I type for a living, so it's no big thing. I need a editor sometimes, in the interest of brevity. Also, I'm working on a book. It's going to be a long book, I'm afraid....

    Well, I guess I misunderstood your dilemma...if going won't take away future gigs from you, then say "Hi" to Mr. ABC for me.
  14. SilentBob

    SilentBob Member

    Joined: Dec 23, 2002 Messages: 683 Likes Received: 1
    thats the thing, the promoter sounded very understanding about it and like I said mentioned that there will be other opportunities. But I have my doubts. I mean if I left your ass hanging with a weeks noticed and it was the first time you booked me, would you book me again? I know I wouldn't. Normally I'm much more proffessional than this. Either way, I'm off. And if I bump into ABC i'll be sure to say hooroo (old australian man, for "hi")
  15. MrJackDaniels

    MrJackDaniels Member

    Joined: Jun 3, 2005 Messages: 413 Likes Received: 0
    due you seem to have made up your mind already..
    go on holiday! have a good time!

    these things are unaviodable. ive been in a few sittuations like these as a dj and it does suck, esp if you love performing.

    however you seem a stand up honest guy. since youve been honest with the dudes promoting just let them know you cant make it asap, perhaps help with a replacement and then when you get back get in touch with them and see how it went. build your bridges again.

    plus, i cant think of many rappers who havent had a no show before....it hasnt fucked their careers up!