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Discussion in 'Paper Chase' started by Abikone, Aug 19, 2004.

  1. Abikone

    Abikone New Jack

    Joined: Jul 28, 2004 Messages: 10 Likes Received: 0
    okay first off i've been drawing for like 2 years and i still suck....but i'm just now understanding about it all...anyway these are some drawings i did ...if anyone will look at it and tell me if there is anything i can make better i would greatly appreciate it..Thanks TDK
  2. PAID:one

    PAID:one Member

    Joined: Oct 27, 2003 Messages: 383 Likes Received: 0
    throw letters are a good place to start. Your line is shakey but if you keep sketching.....that goes away.

    refine it, develope it, don't look at other peoples stuff when you sketch....etc.
  3. Yellow Feets

    Yellow Feets Senior Member

    Joined: Apr 10, 2004 Messages: 1,958 Likes Received: 0
    Honestly, I have different opinions on this. For someone of Abik's skill level, I think it's okay to "nibble". Y'know, to get an understanding of how letters work and shit.

    But that's just me.
  4. PAID:one

    PAID:one Member

    Joined: Oct 27, 2003 Messages: 383 Likes Received: 0

    You might be right bro. [​IMG]
  5. StarzAbove

    StarzAbove Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 15, 2003 Messages: 7,133 Likes Received: 6
    :eek: Just don't put 3D's on throwies
  6. InfamousOne

    InfamousOne Member

    Joined: Jan 5, 2004 Messages: 329 Likes Received: 0
  7. BANK

    BANK Junior Member

    Joined: Apr 8, 2004 Messages: 197 Likes Received: 0
    not bad....

    THE CORONER Banned

    Joined: Jun 2, 2004 Messages: 2,171 Likes Received: 0
    i like the throw a lot actually its rad
  9. Issac Brock

    Issac Brock Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 2, 2004 Messages: 3,664 Likes Received: 1
    yeah actually i think the throwie is real dope but i think you need to go simpler on your peices. do block letters to get your lines even.
  10. Joker

    Joker Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 7, 2000 Messages: 5,267 Likes Received: 92
    I can't believe I'm taking the time to do this, but here goes...

    First, please don't use the name TDK. I know it's as common as TBS or CBS or KGB... but that crew name has a huge history. With all the three word names you can come up with, why not fish around for something more clever, and new. Hell, it doesn't even have to be three words. I have never seen in the Graffiti "Rules and Regulations" handbook where it says you have to have a crew that is made up of three words. So please, out of respect for the real TDK cease using that as a crew name. Please.

    Second, for two years you should be a little further along that where you are. Unless you have absolutely no real drive to improve. Or no real reason to improve. I know it's been said to others a million times, and chances are you've heard it yourself for at least a year but you should probably work in simple styles for a little bit. I can see you understand the basics of writing but there's something lacking in your flow and feel. Yea, I've only seen these two throw-ups you've posted, but you asked for help. Here I am. Also, try to keep your letters on a similar plane. Meaning, don't let them sag... your B is lower than your A and your I is lower than your B and so on. Try to keep them all on the same line. While learning... this helps. Colors are important when you're at this stage. The impulse to get crazed up and fancy free is inevitable... but should be fought against with fierce force. Try to keep things to a low roar. One or two colors at the most. You can do a yellow fill with maybe another yellow fade in there. Outline it in red and then add your pink outer outline. Get crazy with a black cloud or something behind it to make it pop off the paper or wall. This is just an idea. I think you'll find that staying simple, in your outlines and colors will give you a large impact than what you're trying to do now.

    Third, 3D's. One of the most over used additions to a piece. I personally can't stand a 3D but then again, I'm odd. If you must add a 3D, do so simply. Subtle is key here. Especially when learning. Don't worry about shadows or anything like that, just stick to a color and make it solid. You can get wild once you've mastered the look and feel of the solid styles.

    Fourth, on throw-ups try to keep them simple as well. I mean, let's face it... it's design is based on quick motions to get the name up and get out of sight. Try sticking to just an AK or an AB for a bit. Keep them simple and strong and lose the 3D effect. A drop shadow is always nice but not really that important. Especially if you can pull one off with style. I think just having to work with two letters will give you the chance to concentrate more intensely on those letters and improve overall down the road. You know... the baby steps formula.

    Fifth, your tag... dude. Stop right where you are and don't make another move. If you have the opportunity to get your hands on The Vapors magazine (http://www.fourthehardway.com/product_info...?products_id=70) I'd highly suggest it. Or even the book All City. Something with lots of great tags. That sttyle you're pushing says way too much about you as a writer. Toy. With two years under your belt, you gotta step it up a notch or two. Again, simple is the term of the day. A little flair will go a long way. No need to get artsy with it. Again, you're goal is to get it up with the quickness. The more shit you have to concentrate on, the less chance you have of getting over.

    Now, these are just suggestions and ideas based on my personal tastes and opinions. Take them for what they are. None of it is a dis, not even where I called you a toy. (Like Papa E says... "You're a toy until further notice.")

    Your friendly neighborhood old dried up has been... Joker
  11. geezpot

    geezpot Elite Member

    Joined: Apr 20, 2003 Messages: 3,904 Likes Received: 158
    Abikone-Listen to Joker he brings great wisdom for a dried up has been.

    Joker-a has been? More like a has been kicking ass. I've always admired your work, it brings a new style to appreciate within urban arts.

    DANKMAN Member

    Joined: Jan 11, 2004 Messages: 923 Likes Received: 0
    damn, thats funny joker spent that much time trying to help this toy out....
  13. Joker

    Joker Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 7, 2000 Messages: 5,267 Likes Received: 92
    Well, to be honest, Toys tend to congregate into one area. I've kinda noticed that in these threads. So yea, I took the time to give one mans opinion but I did it so that others may use the info as well as this guy, if so inclined to.

    I see nothing wrong with that...

    DANKMAN Member

    Joined: Jan 11, 2004 Messages: 923 Likes Received: 0

    i agree, the toys do tend to spend time in this thread, guess that better than them being out bombing shit, or hittin trains.... there is enough bad graffiti on trains these days....

    it was good advice, some of these kids dont know their history, they need to be schooled... might as well be by a veteran such as your self...
  15. zintckva

    zintckva Junior Member

    Joined: Aug 14, 2004 Messages: 124 Likes Received: 0
    ive been writeing 4 2years also but i guess some ppl r more artistic but keep up you will get there just never give up...
    mcp zinone tck