help a brotha out and answer this ?

yo i live within 10 minutes walking distance from a corning plant, there is a little lay-up there with maybe 8-10 hoppers at a time, the only thing is everytime i've painted there, the cars where clean no graff what so ever not even any streaks, some of them look buffed also. so i was wondering if shouldn't waste my time cause my shit will get buffed right away, or just say fuck it and bust some shit. there's a dock there too so it's a pretty choice night spot. anyways just looking for some second opinions, i got other spots just not so close i can walk to them. thanks ahead of time.

hey there, i had a hopper spot similar to this and we used to paint just for the flick even if we thought it would get buffed right away..well i got spotted 2 years later on some of these pieces so i kept painting that spot when there wasn't any boxcars in my other spots.

So i would tell you, yeah definitly paint them if you dont have any better spots, try to get to know the schedules of the trains, what day and time they get picked up to leave the spot, come the night before and crush the line. Start by doing a tag on the first and last car and see if it moves often or if it stays there for 2 months before leaving. If it changed often you should consider that dock for wholecars..lucky you

what er the reporting marks? furx?wsor?sirx? corning plant?

maybe the plant uses/owns those hoppers.

rush them hoppers...dont hesitate. they run. i used to think the same thing but i have known hoppers to run for years. you roll dice with the buff man on any kind of car.

my only advice would be to not blow the spot out of the frame. out of 10 cars i would probably only paint 3 at a time. If you can, try to be there when the get picked up. see if the workers pull them by number, (which i doubt) or if they pull the whole cut. see which end they come in from and paint the oposite end. by the time those cars get to the yard it will be a little harder to pinpoint exactally where they were done if they dont notice the graff when the pick them up from the customer. id be curious to know the rep marks too.

Standing Still

Has anyone ever witnessed this? A train stopped outside a shut down factory for approx. 12hrs at a time at least 3 days a week. Take in mind that that the engine is still running and that half of the train is sitting atop a bridge over two directions of highway. Nothing but empty hoppers. I'ts chill to hit this thing. I just wanna know what the hell it's doing up there?

is there any people in the engine?

why would there be people in the engine for 12 hours?? they never shut down engines, it takes too long to warm it up to start it again i think. Its probably because the freights are ready to go to the factory before the time they're suppose to be there and the factory have other freights to get picked up to make space at the factory before they bring the empty ones.

The Unit is on Stand-by

It only runs to keep the generators and compressors working, to provide electric power and air pressure. It used to be cheaper, back when, to leave the unit(s) idling than to restart, because diesel fuel was cheap. Today, railroads are getting more environmentally aware and also more cost-concious, so they are beginning to equip newer units with smaller "stand-by auxilliary engines" about the size of a portable generator. They use a lot less diesel fuel, and don't pollute as much.

The units are sitting idle "waiting for a crew." Resist the temptation to enter the unit and fuck around. If you get caught in an idling unit, the bulls can charge you with "simple tresspassing." If you take anything or damage anything, you could be charged with burglary, theft, malicious mischief or vandalism. If you are carrying any sort of deadly weapon, they can charge you with "criminal tresspassing." And if you fuck around with the controls, cut levers, brake hoses or any other part of the train, you could be charged with "interference with railroad operations," which is a felony carrying a maximum penalty of up to 20 years, but that sort of sentence is usually reserved for railroad saboteurs (people who damage track, switches, bridges, etc.)

Two teenaged boys here in Houston who got drunk and threw steel pipes on the tracks were arrested and charged with it, but I think the railroad agreed to drop the felony charges on them if they pled guilty to malicious mischief.

In my opinion: DO NOT FUCK AROUND WITH RAILROAD PROPERTY.

there's a hopper yard in my area, but most writers have refrained from hitting them for many reasons (most of which have been mentioned above). it does appear that hoppers are buffed more frequently than other freights.

nevertheless, its a good idea to hit any train regardless of where it is. but is it a good idea to keep painting those hoppers? yes.

the hopper spot i've got, which many have hated on because it appears clean and buffed, holds benching memories of the DOS crew, legendary BFK crew, random NSF, and old relics from the west (and i don't even live in the west).

Originally posted by ghostvandal

why would there be people in the engine for 12 hours??

you tell me.

Re: The Unit is on Stand-by

Originally posted by KaBar2

And if you fuck around with the controls, cut levers, brake hoses or any other part of the train, you could be charged with "interference with railroad operations," which is a felony carrying a maximum penalty of up to 20 years, but that sort of sentence is usually reserved for railroad saboteurs (people who damage track, switches, bridges, etc.)

when i was hopping across the country this spring i was in the the slave and then the emergency phone started ringing really lound. i hid in the bathroom and the ingineers came to see what was happening. I had not touched anything, we were inside the one of the longest tunnel in america and the train stopped. Apparently, the brakes were broken or something like that, and they had to fix it and then one of them had to go to the bathroom and saw me inside with my bags. so we talked a little and the guy thought I had touched something and broke the brakes. To make a long story short i got escorted out of there at the next town that morning and they wanted to charge me with that.. but i talked with the workers that were supposed to take me to the rcmp and finally they understood i had not touched anything and they let me go. I hitched hiked to the next big city. and meet this cool french hippie. :o

*edited for bad typing

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good story man.

I have a question....what does one usually get charged with if apprehended painting a train? Is it counted as a misdemeanor or a felony?

KaBar? Anyone?

Originally posted by LENS

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good story man.

 

 

I have a question....what does one usually get charged with if apprehended painting a train? Is it counted as a misdemeanor or a felony?

 

KaBar? Anyone?

it depends where.. som places like in california its a felony, in canada it would be a mischief over 5000$ and trespassing or criminal trespassing. It always depends if you have a clean record or not as for the sentence..

ummm, i could be wrong but painitng freights is always a felony, in the US. i believe how far the arresting officer and/or railroad decide to persue it will dictate your sentence. having a good lawyer dosent hurt either. but tresspassing on rr property and painting freight cars is a felony.in the 49 states.

hoppers get underestimated like al-queda pre 911. look at the results.

i would paint a hopper any day...paint anyhthing you can...as long as it is possible to paint, even if the hoppers have a local route they can be freed from that normal cycle...so yes smash them hard..start by doing one or two , see if you know the schedule, then see how long it takes them to roll, then trace them see where they or at, or better yet wait till they roll and trace them even before you have painted them!

what are the reporting marks? that can tell you whether its going to leave the city or not. there are tons of hoppers that dont leave my town and i really dont think they are worth painting, save your energy and skills for something thatll roll. filling up a line with the same name that will never get out of town is a bad idea for heating yer spot up. but if it rolls, paint it.

and about the engine on idle. i have spots like that too, they are okay to paint if no one is inside and you are sure that they are going to stay put long enough to bust it out. just paint far away from the engine and listen up. sometimes they will have the radios on and youll hear voices, but thats just an intimidation tactic.

stay safe and dont blow yer spots

yea very true,fuck it i hit hoppers,when theres nothin else in the yard,and or layup

i'd hit that spot if nothing else were around