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hair folicle drug testing - the real deal?

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by imported_dowmagik, Aug 9, 2004.

  1. imported_dowmagik

    imported_dowmagik Senior Member

    Joined: Apr 19, 2001 Messages: 1,904 Likes Received: 1
    Im getting a hair folicle drug test by 7-11, my new employer. I'm reading that they can detect shit from months ago, is this shit for real? Fucking crazy.
     
  2. EyeforAnEYE

    EyeforAnEYE Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 29, 2003 Messages: 4,199 Likes Received: 3
    Don't they test for Coke this way?
     
  3. High Priest

    High Priest Elite Member

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  4. GucciCondom

    GucciCondom Veteran Member

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    time to bust out the BIC.
     
  5. GamblersGrin

    GamblersGrin Elite Member

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  6. imported_dowmagik

    imported_dowmagik Senior Member

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    I dunno what they check for but I'm quite sure I'm fucked. Hopefully I can work a week or so before they pop me.
     
  7. imported_dowmagik

    imported_dowmagik Senior Member

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    erowid says they can catch miss yayo for up to 90 days
     
  8. High Priest

    High Priest Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 1, 2002 Messages: 4,928 Likes Received: 3
    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/images/leary.jpg'>

    Here, from erowid:
    2.5 Hair testing: When THC metabolites are in the blood, they go through the blood vessels in the head, and get filtered through the hair. THC metabolites remain in the hair as a permanent record. The hair test costs several hundred dollars ($150-$300) and is rarely given because urinalysis is cheaper (approximately $65) and more accurate. (The hair test equipment and setup goes for over a million). According to Jeff Nightbyrd, hair tests are "widely used in the casino industry." They cut 50 strands of hair from the scalp, and send it in to the testing lab where they liquefy it. "A hair sample is disolved in a series of solvents which extract the drug metabolites and then are analyzed via GC/MS." It can take several hours to days just to extract metabolites. Average hair grows 1/4 inch per month. Typically they just use hair one and a half inches from the scalp; though some labs will take enough to test for up to 3 years. The liquid is run through the most sensitive GC/MS machines available, and can detect as little as 1 ng/mL! The hair test discriminates in that detection is easier in dark hair. Colored people may be discriminated against further because melanin is in their hair, which can be mistaken for THC. However, there is conflicting data as to whether melanin can be detected as THC. Psychemedics Corporation has a PDT90 kit for $75. This home test kit is for parents that want to chop off a lock of their child's hair to find out what drugs s/he is using. Kids- lock your bedroom doors at night if your parents don't trust your judgment on the drug issue.

    Beating the hair test is extremely hard, and there are false positives. Bleaching or dying your hair is rumored to work, but it doesn't. I imagine you can shave every hair on your body and claim that you're a swimmer. According to NORML, Aloe Rid by Nexus is a shampoo that will aid in testing negative. Aloe Rid is available only in salons. Healthy Hair, from Sampson Health Products, is another shampoo designed to beat the hair test. Healthy Hair is sold in retail stores throughout Las Vegas. Keith Thrash from Sampson Health Products reccommends precleansing with Aloe Rid prior to using Healthy Hair. Healthy Hair is used in the morning and before going to bed. Each session takes 20 minutes. According to Steve at Sampson Health Products, two out of a thousand people failed the hair test when using Healthy Hair. Byrd Labs is currently developing a shampoo to defeat the hair test. Some have suggested treating hair with oil because THC is oil based and oil soluble. However, there is no proven way to beat the hair test, so it's all heresay and guessing at this point. (If anyone has any success with the shampoos or the swimmer excuse, please let me know). Swimming and washing your hair removes toxins, and Keith Thrash recommends doing both as much as possible. Fortunately, the hair test cannot be used alone as evidence because there are no forensic standards. It can only be used when substantiated by other evidence. Also, there are no intoxication standards. I believe if you tested positive for the hair test that you would probably have a good chance of fighting it. (BlockBuster Video uses the most up-to-date equipment, and passing such a test can be difficult). It takes several months of precleansing to beat the tests given by Psychemedics.
     
  9. rubbish heap

    rubbish heap Senior Member

    Joined: Mar 18, 2003 Messages: 1,563 Likes Received: 1
    Hair tests are for sure the hardest to beat. My advice is shave your head. Then they'll get a sample of hair from elsewhere on your body, I think either arm pits or pubes. Go over to marijuana.com/ and go to the forums and go to the drug test forum there, the hair testing one. You should be able to find more info there. There's something called the Macujo method or something like that, it will turn your hair to straw but apparently it can work. You also need to chill on the weed from now till then.

    That said, the odds are against you. If I were you I'd opt out of the job and find an employer that does urine tests or better yet, no testing at all...
     
  10. the_gooch

    the_gooch 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: May 15, 2002 Messages: 11,566 Likes Received: 429
    they have these special shampoo's that can mask it for you. browse for them on google
     
  11. dr.testical

    dr.testical Senior Member

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    my mom was telling me about at her work they can find out everything youve done your hole life. she told me alot about what a few of my friends did. its all confidential. cool this had nothing to do with whatever
     
  12. rubbish heap

    rubbish heap Senior Member

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    those shampoos are a scam, that shit is just there to cash in on the illegal drug "industry". seriously, you know those 200 percent money back guarentees they have? they don't even stand by that shit, if you have a problem with a test on their product and complain, they'll just tell you weed is illegal and they're not responsible...

    that's not true.

    it's more like 3 months is the detection time.
     
  13. ~KRYLON2~

    ~KRYLON2~ 12oz Loyalist

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  14. iloveboxcars

    iloveboxcars 12oz Royalty

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    Yeah! shave your head! That wont seem suspicious at all!
     
  15. imported_dowmagik

    imported_dowmagik Senior Member

    Joined: Apr 19, 2001 Messages: 1,904 Likes Received: 1
    That is what I'm sayin. If I show up for my HAIR DRUG TEST with a complete newly shaven head they're going to laugh at me, then tell me to fuck off.
     
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