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GUNS & SUSANNA GRATIA HUPP

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by brown twinkie, Jul 14, 2001.

  1. brown twinkie

    brown twinkie Veteran Member

    Joined: Jan 6, 2001 Messages: 8,127 Likes Received: 0
    she believes that more guns, for protection in gun situations, is the
    answer to gun violence....to the point where she thinks that teachers and principals should
    have the right to have firearms at school, in case something happens so they can return fire.....is this fuckin' unbelievable or what?
    she lobby's all over the states constantly, trying to get laws passt on this type of garbage.....WHAT THE FUCK.....................................i can't believe this dipshit logic....................................apparently she won't have any pictures taken of her with a firearm becuz she thinks it will harm her campaign(?!)......
    ......and of course she's been put on a pedestal by fucksnack charleston heston and the NRA.................[??????????????????????????????].........
     
  2. TheWhiteRabbit

    TheWhiteRabbit Junior Member

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  3. tue skinny

    tue skinny Elite Member

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    she's a stupid bitch
     
  4. boogie hands

    boogie hands 12oz Legend

    Joined: Feb 15, 2001 Messages: 16,059 Likes Received: 13
    wow, you know i havent heard of her at all....i guess she just kind of blends in with all the other pro gun nut jobs around here. ill be the first one to admit, i like guns, i feel safe with a gun and i do plan on obtaining a concealed weapons permit in the near future however, i am still greatly opposed to the NRA and anyone invloved with that orginization. it seems they have their priorities a little skewed (little used with severe sarcasm). correct me if im wrong but think i remeber reading somewhere that they were actually opposed to registering guns....dont hold me too it though. regardless i do know that the NRA and individuals with similar belifs are completly wacked, i think the gun debate in our most recent election proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt....regardless, i dont think the NRA or any organization of that nature will ever be accepted to the point that their pleas and opinions are going to make any serious changes in the battle over firearms.....

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    brick, brick ,brick...thats how i be up against your girlfriends ass...
     
  5. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

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    states that enacted 'concealed carry' laws (permitting your average citizen to carry a gun) have seen dramatic reductions in violent crime...

    guns kill people. they suck. but since there is no way to rid the world of them, fuck it, lets have a gun party...
    it might not sound rational or even logical, but wht does? fuck it... guns for everyone... i know that if i lived in a state that allowed it, id be carrying 24/7. why? why not?
     
  6. brown twinkie

    brown twinkie Veteran Member

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    okay...well.....i guess talking about the NRA is good too....but....i'd like to focus on this woman...who
    has some serious clout it seems....not becuz of her NRA affiliation, but more for her experience and her staunch convictions.....people get sucked right into it and i think she is gettin laws actually passed....i think her husband was shot in front of her or something, so now she's maneuvered herself into a position where she can use the fact that she was a victim, to become a 'crusader'...for fucking guns that killed her husband in the first place.........and she believes through speculation that if she had a firearm, the situations outcome would've been different in a good way...which is totally debatable....becuz she could've shot up somebody in the panic, or maybe even gotten shot herself.....
    fucking complex, and extremely serious, so, can we not have the usual dipshit replies like 'dumb bitch' blahblah...
    the main thing that scares me about this women, a mother(i think), is how she can even think to have guns in school...to me that is just mindblowing...what is that telling kids??? its fuckt up logic......which is....that schools have always been 'weapon free zones'....which in her eyes 'obviously hasn't worked' in lieu of all the tragedies etc.....i don't know........................majorly fuckt.............
     
  7. platapie

    platapie Guest

    tek 9s for every1.
     
  8. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 233
    i shoudlnt even be talking about this cause its a serious topic but im way too trashed tobe serious right now... plus im listening to cash money and thats not real conducive to being serious...

    anyway... i, pretty much a buddhist, but at the same time im a realist... they make for strange bedfellows... ive got guns galore but i also stay away from violence.. i cant call it.. i shouldnt even be talking... blah...

    i need a project bitch... a hood rat bitch...
     
  9. brown twinkie

    brown twinkie Veteran Member

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    man...........think about what she is actually trying to get done.....guns in schools..................guns for everyone....haha......if everyone started thinking that way, 'guns for everyone, fuck it'.....that would be great wouldn't it....give it a rest. 'why? why not?' what is that shit?
    platapie shut up with that shit.


    [This message has been edited by brown twinkie (edited 07-14-2001).]
     
  10. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

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    i apologise for just busting up into your topic with drunken nonsense... well not nonsense, but you know... this is actually a topic i have somewhat of a vested stock in, so tomorrow i'll be back to discuss... or maybe i'll just let it all rest.. but regardles... i apologise for just strong arming yoru topic... no disrpesect...

    cash money is fucking good though...

    seekingoner deathfromabove
     
  11. brown twinkie

    brown twinkie Veteran Member

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    no worries...i'm a little sauced too...my girlfriend is telling me to have another...heh...it would be nice if we could be sitting, in real life discussing.......so much gets lost in translation....but...i'd step up to the player and kill that noise though.....with some sweet merzbow.
     
  12. dukeofyork

    dukeofyork Guest

    while i dont necessarily agree that everyone in school should have a gun, guns are a necessary evil. i know its cliche by now, but guns dont kill people, people kill people. in societies without guns, only criminals have guns, and do you think someone who just MIGHT consider killing another person is going to feel bad or care that they could get charged with possession of a firearm? (if you didnt know, the correct answer is no) a comparison for you: graffiti is illegal. spray paint is not. are spray paint manufacturers to be held responsible that we use their products to commit crimes? (again, correct answer is no) should spray paint be illegal? no...it doesnt cause graffiti. in the same right, guns dont cause deaths. another thought to ponder, if you dont feel safe with the government installing video cameras everywhere, would you feel safe if they were the only ones who could defend you? thats basically what you are saying when you advocate gun control (my sentiment on guncontrol is this, using both hands to shoot.) gun control is a euphemism for gun banning. if you think about what gun control literally means, it has nothing to do with restricting firearms, which is a direct indication that there is something inherently flawed with the concept of "gun control". guns are how you *defend* yourself against others *only* when necessary. if you dont have to use one, dont. the men who found this country provided for the right to bear arms because they recognized that it was a necessity to maintaining a fair and just government (if you dont feel that our government is fair and just, which i honestly dont always feel, take a look at some other countries, we have it pretty sweet here) they felt that the people of the country should have the access to arms just as advanced as the military had, so that if the government ever became too opressive of the people, the option of rebellion would not be completely out of the question. if every colonist had not owned a firearm to hunt, we would still be a colony of britain. another thought, this is on gun registration...historically speaking, wherever guns have been registered in the past, they have systematically been confiscated afterward. once registered, police know where they can find the firearms they want to take from the people. a citizen living in california (yes, the sunshine state itself) was fined *after* the state banned "assault" weapons. he owned an ak47, and voluntarily gave it up when he found out it was illegal. yet he was still fined for it. remember this, in mother russia the citizens werent allowed to own firearms, in nazi germany they were not either...think of how well things went in *their* countries. (and yes, in nazi germany their firearms were registered, then confiscated.)

    dont believe the media hype.
     
  13. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 233
    fuck, i should just carry you around with me... i can drink all i want and trust you to say the things i would have...

    couple slight personal deviations however...
    i'm not against waiting peroids. you dont really need it today, and if so you should have thought of that 7 days ago.
    i dont think people really need fully automatic weapons. why? well, cause honestly, if the government storms my house, fully auto or not, im not making it out alive. besides, theres just too much inherent risk in such a thing with a low practicality level. like if they sold spray paint in back pack sized cans that sprayed the size of a elephant. no 'good' can really come from that.

    i always liked the bumper stickers that said 'if you believe in gun control raise your right hand' and it had a picture of hitler saluting... funny stuff...

    i have a hang over.

    and a gun.

    im still about as dangerous as miss. daisy. although id kill for some asprin...
     
  14. dukeofyork

    dukeofyork Guest

    you gotta admit tho, wouldnt it be easier to paint wholecars with backpack sized spray cans? and think of how quick you could do huge bombs that make sabers river piece look small...just kiddin, aint no one touchin saber.
    only problem is, where would you get the cap fat enought to fit it? he he... [​IMG]
    itd probably have a remote kinda like most paint guns do...
    i dont really need a fully auto rifle, but the only reason is that if a person isnt responsible enough to own a fully auto weapon, they arent safe enough to own a butter knife. i would draw the line at rocket launchers and cannons, but then id have to admit that there is a point where i have to give up, and i dont like that... [​IMG] just kidding, it is kinda touchy though, where do you draw the line? i mean, most swat teams and military personnel dont use those weapons on a daily basis, but a number of them are trained with them.

    sic semper tyrannis.. thats why we have the second amendment.
     
  15. brown twinkie

    brown twinkie Veteran Member

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    ....eh............some good points...but...no amount of facts are going to convince me that everyone owning a firearm is a logical maneuver..........sadly i can see it going that way in the future........the climate of everyday relations/interactions should be interesting then huh?....
     
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