TRYBOL Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Ok I know there was a thread about graphic design sites, but how about techniques. Someone has a question about a design, project, technique and we exchange our knowledge on the subject. So I will start it off with a question. How do you get that spray paint and drip style effect that they have on the vapors cover, and many other posters i've seen to print so clean. Also I've seen allot of band logos with the broken, almost paint cracking style font. How is that achieved? I have done it where I pick a font print it to my desired size, cut the font out stencil style, then used a sponge with paint and apply it to the stencil. you get the same effect, but then you have to scan it in and play with it to use it in lets say adobe illustrator etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr430n5_666 Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 When I look back (seems like yesterday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_norman Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Originally posted by Zee_Zee pardon? ] YOU'RE A FUCKING HOMO, WHY DON'T YOU KILL YOURSELF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methodz Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Cracked letters: There just fonts, go download em'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_norman Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Originally posted by Zee_Zee someone said once on this message board that killing yourself is a permanent solution to a temporary problem maybe you should give it a go then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRYBOL Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 this thread is to exchange graphic design techniques and THATS IT! if you saw some good techniques on a website or poster or billboard and you wondering how it was done then ask and maybe someone will help you out. I run my own company and if anyone has graphic design questions then by all means ask, and I'll do my best to help. THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR KINDERGARDEN BULLSHIT!!! SO GO FIND ANOTHER THREAD THANKYOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Green Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 what youre asking for isnt even graphic design techniques. what you are asking for is how certain people have achieved certain aesthetics. that is where the magic and the ingenuity of the designer is appreciated.. personally for you to be asking about how to make drips and how to do dirty stencil fonts is silly. figure out your own aesthetic. if you want a straight answer to your query. the best way to get dirty is to stay dirty. do not use premade fonts directly if you want that "hardcore/punk" type treatment. just like in painting it shows when you use paint straight out of a tube. if you want to ask real graphic design questions they should be related to the application of graphic design .. DESIGN.. to a project.. not about aesthetics. plus the reason you dont find large open resources on how people achieve certain affects is because thats the tricks of the trade. people are generally secretive. but people might be willing to share their knowledge of appropriate uses of typefaces, kerning, layout, how to make spreads, where to find templates.. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WebsterUno Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 yeah, what he ^^^^ said "the reason you dont find large open resources on how people achieve certain affects is because thats the tricks of the trade. " But making you own letters doesnt hurt. Those letters you made, could be turned into a font of your own. Youre on the right track. wanna look at other peoples shit....go here... http://www.nowgocreate.com/ once its up, youll see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRYBOL Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 Ok maybe you misunderstood me or the question did not come out the way I wanted it too. I already know how to make all those things. what I wanted to know was how after making that effect do I get it to come out as clean as possible for pre print. TECHNIQUE being clipping path magic wand etc. I want an easy way to bring it between programs. There is no SECRET to it and yes it is considered graphic design. you can go to the book store and buy books on how to do it. I just thought maybe people would be cool enough to help each other out. I asked derek hess how he printed his stippling effect and he was more than happy to help out. As have many people asked how I achieved crtain effects and I was more than happy to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 so wait......how do i make krink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRYBOL Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 Ok you can now shut this thread. I thought Id give 12oz one more try, but I forgot how childish you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoink Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 I actually wouldnt mind there being a thread where help and ideas can be shared, kinda like a tech/tutorial/instruction type thing, cause there certainly are a lotta heads on here that know what they are doing. then when someone has an inquiry they can kinda go to one thread, instead of the dozen help me in photoshop threads (which ive done before too) but whatever floats peoples boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0rdka0s Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Originally posted by mark_norman ] YOU'RE A FUCKING HOMO, WHY DON'T YOU KILL YOURSELF? bwahahahahahahahah thats not very nice oh yeah and my girl is fucking hot dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 how old are you? 4? children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRYBOL Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 like I said before, if you dont have any graphic design questions or info dont waste your fucking time, boosting your damn posts count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oprah Oner Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Originally posted by Tyler Durden so wait......how do i make krink? nononono...you've got your priorities all mixed up here. first we need to find out what a "mop" is and how it can be made... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 I don't know of any plugins that achieve that effect, but there might be some around. I would venture to guess that the spray was done by hand on a very even and contrasty surface, then scanned in at a very high res. The surface could then easily be dropped in Photoshop, leaving only the spray to do as you may. You could then either use the autotrace tools in Illustrator or Flash to get them vectorized, which would probably suck since the droplets are so small. Your best bet is to separate the droplets in Photoshop, then check with your printers what the line screen and dot size are gonna be, and then size up your picture accordingly so that very small droplets don't get cut off. Then if you want it to be its own plate, you can grayscale it, make it a bitmap image, and then assign whatever specialty ink you want it to print as, if that's your goal. Hope that helps somewhat. Beer, El Mamerro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRYBOL Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 Thank you El Mamerro. Thats exactly what I was asking. I sprayed a piece of white paper then scanned it in. I tried bringing it into stream line but that made it a mess. I used the magic wand in photoshop to select it as a seperate layer, now I can place it in top of any photo. I still want to see if there is a way to bring it into illustrator clipped nice and clean. I was just looking at the new cave in cd cover. thats exactly the effect im looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Originally posted by Oprah Oner nononono...you've got your priorities all mixed up here. first we need to find out what a "mop" is and how it can be made... damn man...im really just wondering where i can get some etch. as far as the topic of the thread.....anything i need to use in a design (i prefer to work on paper as much as possible...) such as drips or "spray" effects i tend to just shoot with my digitial. white painted piece of metal. or whatever surface will give the "desired" effect of drips and whatever....then shoot it in the best mode possible. blah blah blah. fuck it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 http://seasickrecords.safeshopper.com/images/bq0u01to.jpg'> If you scan at a high enough res (1200 dpi I'd say, at least) with a decent scanner, you should get a super crisp picture. Make sure you bump up the contrast like hell to eliminate in-between colors, then resize to 300 dpi or whatever the printer output is. Just keep the res high and you should't have to worry much about a clean print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRYBOL Posted April 30, 2003 Author Share Posted April 30, 2003 Cool deal, I'll give that a try. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Quickwood Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 whats krink, and what the hell is a moop ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 eh, just marking this thread for later. sometimes I feel like sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRYBOL Posted April 30, 2003 Author Share Posted April 30, 2003 from what I hear if you use the airbrush feature with a graphic tab you can get the same effect. the new painter pro has some cool effects also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr430n5_666 Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 http://www.3dspline.com/gallery/Ron%20Pfister/rumely-t.gif'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 i've been waiting on this thread to get dope. maybe steve austin and el mamerro will share some secrets....hell, mamerro won't post anymore of his photoshopped stuff in paperchase...if you want to see what he posted, it's in the photoshop battle pages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRYBOL Posted April 30, 2003 Author Share Posted April 30, 2003 same here but unfortunetly we get these dumb photos and other remarks. check out www.phong.com they have some really good photoshop tutorials. I just did some marker throw-ups and scanned them in very high res then converted them to art via streamline. They came out real clean and you can easily bring them into illustrator and resize and change colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 i've checked out phong.com before, there's also a cool tutoiral section at deviantart.com as for the illustrator talk, i really haven't a clue about it. i have 10 but i don't use it. Joker was telling me that the pen tool is all i need for some dope stuff...i just use photoshop to convert to working paths and then save as .ai then import to 3d studio max. heh...i suck. do you know of any good illustrator tutorials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Unfortunately, I don't know of any good Illustrator tutorials... I've been getting pretty handy with it because I fuck around with it endlessly, and when i can't figure a certain thing out, I usually just go to google and find one or two things that can help out. But in all truth, if you're not preparing stuff for print, there's not much you're gonna get out of Illustrator. You can do almost anything it does in Photoshop if you're gonna stay in the digital realm, with the exception of type-related stuff. And yeah, Casek, becoming adept with the pen tool is the single most important thing for Illustrator. Phong.com was neat... it got me messing around with shit I'd never even considered, especially channels. Unfortunately, most of the neat effects and colors the tutorials teach you get lost in the CMYK conversion for print. Lately I've been mooching tricks off creativepro.com, which has more proffesional tutorials, such as color correction and whatnot. Beer, El Mamerro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumPuncher Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 dont forget to check out www.dmnforums.com they have fourms on almost every application you'd ever need to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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