earmuffs Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 By Lisa Richardson and Andrew Blankstein, Times Staff Writers Two men were killed in a drive-by shooting Sunday afternoon in the heart of Venice Beach as thousands of beachgoers soaked in the sun and surf, police said. In a second weekend of summer violence, officers reported that at least six people were killed in less than 24 hours in Los Angeles. A week ago, 17 people died in shootings and assaults in Los Angeles County during an exceptionally violent weekend that marked the start of the area's traditional peak period for homicides. August is typically the worst month for killings in the county. The shooting sent shudders through the neighborhood of small bungalows, luxury homes, apartment buildings and businesses catering to beachgoers. Resident Mark Ryavek, former executive director of the Venice Boardwalk Assn., said he fears the shooting may signal a return to a more frightening era of gang violence. "In that context, this incident is alarming and exceptionally dangerous," he said. "It is a block off of the heart of Venice," where tens of thousands of people visit on peak weekends. The fatal attack occurred in the 1700 block of Pacific Avenue when two men driving a burgundy Mercedes-Benz pulled up alongside a blue Chevrolet Camaro. They reportedly shot at the car's three occupants, killing two and seriously injuring a third man, who went to a local hospital. Police found no weapons in the victims' car but they did find paint that may have been intended for tagging or graffiti, said police Sgt. Ron Crump. Police later stopped the Mercedes on La Tijera Boulevard near the San Diego Freeway and arrested two suspects, who were booked on suspicion of murder. Two hours later, a man was shot in a parking lot in the 11700 block of Culver Boulevard, Crump said. A suspect is still at large in that shooting, and police are investigating whether the two attacks are related, said Det. Don Cox. Three other victims were shot in South Los Angeles and in the San Fernando Valley, police said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AORAone Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 damn, that fucking sucks. edit: giving more thought to this. this really gets to me. its all fucked up shit. i mean, i dont know what the deal was or anything, beef, or just random rolling up and pop'n people for the hell of it. fuck if im ever visiting venice beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.testical Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 violence is more american then apple pie and soul train baseball nickel plated 9's and cocaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE CORONER Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 no truer words were ever spoken^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crave Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 i wonder why august is the worst month for killings. could it be the freakin' heat . . . .??? i guess so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dear sas Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 it sucks when people die but nowhere does it say that they were writers. Police found no weapons in the victims' car but they did find paint that may have been intended for tagging or graffiti, said police Sgt. Ron Crump. rumors get started.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Quickwood Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 damn Mexicans i hope the police have reason to believe the people were graffiti writers other than the spray paint, that's a stupid assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsøn Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by dear sas it sucks when people die but nowhere does it say that they were writers. Police found no weapons in the victims' car but they did find paint that may have been intended for tagging or graffiti, said police Sgt. Ron Crump. rumors get started.... Yea, maybe the were off duty construction workers...or maybe the just got done painting a birdhouse...or a bicycle...or maybe they huff it.[/sarcasm] Why else would you have paint in your trunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtab|e Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 There's a strong possibility that I'm your father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarzAbove Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 GTA5 IS REAL:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Quickwood Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by Crimsøn Yea, maybe the were off duty construction workers...or maybe the just got done painting a birdhouse...or a bicycle...or maybe they huff it.[/sarcasm] Why else would you have paint in your trunk? or maybe police officers shouldn't make such assumptions with only a common abject making the link, it's more bold when two of the accused were murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtab|e Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by MLTf4nt0m if im ever visiting venice beach. Venice Beach is a safe area. That was probably the first shooting there in several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtab|e Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Personally I don't like gangbangers, and as malicious as it may seem for me to say it, I applaud when gangbangers kill each other. I figure it's one less potential ignorant scumbag waiting to kill or rob someone else. It's just unfortunate when the innocent people get caught in the crossfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtab|e Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by Crimsøn Yea, maybe the were off duty construction workers...or maybe the just got done painting a birdhouse...or a bicycle...or maybe they huff it.[/sarcasm] Why else would you have paint in your trunk? He may have meant that they could've been gangbangers but not writers. Gangbangers tag too but I wouldn't consider them writers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I know some one that knows a guy that says it was those silly ass Icey hot ballaz tryna get some stripes so they can push a few more units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUDONO? Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 i saw this shit on the news last night and when they showe the camaro that got shot up there was a blue pilot on the pavement. We used to go to Venice alot when i was in high school and we always got into big ass fights with all kinds of black dudes. im pretty sure that they(the police) wont find the killers, they only find them when they kill one of their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsøn Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by ARCEL or maybe police officers shouldn't make such assumptions with only a common abject making the link, it's more bold when two of the accused were murdered. Don't get me wrong, it's a stupid assumption, but it's probably the case. Also, it was totally irrelevant to what happened and shouldn't even have been mentioned the way it was. ..and nobody assumed they were writers, it said that they had paint which may have been used for vandalism or graffiti. Which sounds on point to me. Anyways...what really matters is that innocent people got shot down. Which sucks ass, whether they're writers or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasm Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 i saw this on the news it was a burgandy benz and a blue camerro couldn't it be bloods vs crips instead of "intededing graffiti" but then again, it is L.A. and anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtab|e Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 BLAME BUSH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 People use spray paint for everything from touching up their cars to painting furniture to construction to, yes, even vandalism. The amount of paint is not specified, and there is a good chance it could have been a couple of cans of paint used for touch-up work. I knew a guy who bought a used piece of shit pick-up truck that had a can of black spraypaint in the cab for touching up the car. It looked like shit but it is not uncommon. If they were graff writers, that sucks, but if they were using the cans for vandalism I'd lean towards the gang-related theory. And shouldn't this be in Third Rail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dELiSs Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 the other day at venice i got offered "popcorn" at the drum session . creepy fucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Quickwood Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 what is "popcorn"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dELiSs Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 its special popcorn i guess. the people offering it were way too happy. and it looked suspicious. they were all on something. i sort of want to move to the venice area. . .maybe santa monica. but its expensivo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 i thought this was at the legal wall there. but this just sounds like some random violence ish. but what fucking idiots, thats a fucking crowded area. anybody ever drink down there at 'on the waterfront'? that must be one of the best bars anywhere for people watching. happy-hour anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earmuffs Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 give the police some credit tehy just wouldnt put the spraypaint in there if they didnt have some reason behind it, and Im sure ut was alot of paint they wouldnt say that if it was a can or two. Also I read someone on "the other Forum" talking about this from a L.A.. But who knows may be they were off duty construction workers:rolleyes: or if lucky some art fags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adderall Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by dr.testical violence is more american then apple pie and soul train baseball nickel plated 9's and cocaine ill bill reppin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fannypack2 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by TheoHuxtab|e . I figure it's one less potential ignorant scumbag waiting to kill or rob someone else. haha you retard thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard. thats not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunm Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by crave i wonder why august is the worst month for killings. could it be the freakin' heat . . . .??? i guess so. Ding ding ding! I actually studied this in my psychology class. Generally the most violence occurs when the temperature is between 85-90 degrees. Anything hotter than that and folks are just too beaten down mentally and physically by the heat to do anything much less pick up a gun and shoot someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtab|e Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by fannypack2 haha you retard thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard. thats not true Ha ha you fag. When a gangbanger kills a rival gangbanger, the fool that was killed wasn't exactly a Good Samaritain. He wouldn't hesitate to blast some innocents if given the opportunity. So good riddance. I'm tired of hearing little girls and babies and pregnant mothers and children getting cut down by drive-by shootings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FR8HOUND Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Originally posted by TheoHuxtab|e Personally I don't like gangbangers, and as malicious as it may seem for me to say it, I applaud when gangbangers kill each other. I figure it's one less potential ignorant scumbag waiting to kill or rob someone else. It's just unfortunate when the innocent people get caught in the crossfire. ^^^^^ very well said..bravo, I agree...by the way Theo, that father comment made me laugh..good one..:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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