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GRAFFITI TRAPS?

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by misteraven, Feb 19, 2003.

  1. misteraven

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    GRAFFITI TRAPS?

    Discussion started by misteraven - Feb 19, 2003

    Yeah, I know this should probably be in Third Rail, but I'm more interested in the bigger picture of it and not just how it pertains to graffiti...

    http://news.findlaw.com/science/s/20030214...graffitidc.html

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    Graffiti Space Trap Tested in Calif. Cities

    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Psssst, wanna catch a tagger?

    Satellites and super-sensitive sensors are now tuned to the sibilant hiss of spray cans in a space-age effort to eradicate one of the oldest and most persistent urban problems -- graffiti.

    TaggerTrap, a graffiti eradication system being tested in several California cities, uses global positioning system technology, cell phones and sensors that recognize the ultrasonic pitch of spray cans to alert police when vandals begin their work, representatives said on Thursday.

    "The tagger, when he pushes down on that spray can, he's calling police," said George Lerg, co-founder of TrapTec, the Escondido, California-based company that developed TaggerTrap.

    The unique, ultrasonic tone emitted by aerosol paint cans trips the sensors, which signal a transmitter linked to a police cell phone or radio. The global positioning system pinpoints the location of the transmitter, Lerg said.

    The portable sensors have a range of 100 feet in any direction.

    The first time TaggerTrap was tested in the San Diego suburb of Chula Vista, police arrived in time to nab a six-person graffiti "crew" in the act.

    The system quickly drew the interest of three nearby Southern California cities, which plan to test it themselves.

    "Just from the test I have seen and word from Chula Vista it has worked wonderfully," said Officer Judy Ronnebeck of the Escondido Police, adding that the $2,000 price tag for each unit seems a small price to pay for space surveillance.

    "Our city spent over $150,000 last year cleaning graffiti," she said. "The more money it costs to clean it up, the more people realize we have to make these taggers responsible for their actions."

    Lerg said TaggerTrap and the company's other products -- systems that warn police of gunfire and trucking dispatchers of leaking tires -- have caught the attention of the U.S. Department of Defense, which has drafted the technology for other national security applications.

    "The government is extremely concerned about biotoxins inside aerosol cans that can be put into air-conditioning ducts of a subway system or a large building," he said. "If somebody is using an aerosol can where they shouldn't be, we can notify authorities.

    The city of San Diego, which spends about $1.5 million on graffiti cleanup each year, has also tested the system, said Sonya Ollison, in charge of the city's graffiti removal.

    The latest estimate is that graffiti causes $8 billion in damages across the nation per year, Ollison said.
     
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  2. John Gotti

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    John Gotti - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    shut up with that shit
     
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  3. nomadawhat

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    nomadawhat - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    there were already a couple threads on this. one here and one in third rail i think. but you know what i say, the more the merrier!!:)
     
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  4. Al Green

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    Al Green - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    i mean i know biometrics is a big emerging field since. 9-11 and all.

    And all the terrorists ( the them terrorists as opposed to the us (U.S.) terrorists).
    but honestly.. do we have money for the kind of infrastructure to suppor this? i dont think so.. video surveillance is 90% assumption that someone is watching.. specifically on live feed. we have so many damn cameras.. but not that many people watching them..
    alot of biometric research is focused on anazlying raw video data collected.. but the infrastructure to achieve.. som coheasive network.. based on this crap is far from happening.. no matter what anyone says.. shit.. look how dated our telecommunications is.

    moores law is about to run its cycle..

    now i must find the white rabbit and get the hell out of the matrix.
     
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  5. John Gotti

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    John Gotti - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    shut up
     
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  6. --zeSto--

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    --zeSto-- - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    jeeze Raven... didn't you do a search ?? ;)


    (only only joking becasue I posted it in 3rdRail and got no replies, then it showed up in here and got popular)

    I learned my lesson.
     
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    coolcon2 - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    the cops would surround the roof,and i would just keep some off in my bag,hide the cans and say i was camping out,tresspassing charge,at worst
     
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  8. SteveAustin

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    SteveAustin - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    so where are our enginerds with a jamming or pitch masking solution?
     
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  9. seeking

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    seeking - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    so if i take a particularly violent shit, then try to cover it up with lysol, am i gonna get my door broken down by cops?

    why do i get the feeling we're not so far off from the prophet vision of 'demolition man'?
     
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  10. SteveAustin

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    SteveAustin - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    fight fire with fire.

    I hear ya on the demolition man front. Orwell to boot.
     
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    B_As_In_Bot - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    Dumbasses worried about the public eyespace..

    well - if we were a little more European about it and didnt bother painting over graffiti...

    Busting taggers is the biggest waste of time..
     
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  12. urban ghost

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    urban ghost - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    this is dumb...it would only be worthwhile for them to put them in places that are regularly frequented by "taggers", which would probally be a chill spot, which is not the real problem in the minds of the cities, who are more fed up with the destructive graffitti that the public actually sees....whatever....i live in richmond, virginia...so i dont have to worry about my city buying sensors...at least for a few more years....
     
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    Vlad - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    just go around the sensors with deo sprays

    psst psst
     
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    fr8lover - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    you guys ever wonder if this whole thing is just a big lie to scare writers?
     
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    spec - Replied Feb 19, 2003

    i think so, spray cans could be being used anywhere for legit as well as illegal purposes, will they check on the legal users too? or what about aerosols aside form paint? whole thing sounds pretty phoney :eek: