Graffiti = Terrorism

Coca Cola has a well-deserved reputation for philanthropy, one that goes beyond the mere doling out of money and focuses on real community needs. It’s genuine, reflecting the words of your former jingle: “It’s the real thing!”<![endif]>

But you have two current initiatives, under the auspices of that program, which concern our organization and its members. The NoGraf Network is a 501©3 non-profit which, like Coca Cola is global. On 6 continents and in 19 countries we have members from such diverse callings as education, prosecution, law enforcement, neighborhood associations, and others. The common link of our members is their active involvement in combating what is, unfortunately, an American “export” and now a global problem: graffiti vandalism.

Our concerns are laid out in the enclosure. I apologize for its length, but we wanted to go beyond merely laying a complaint at your doorstep. We wanted to provide the context of that complaint.

When you have reviewed this issue, I would appreciate a response with your view of the matter.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,

Randy Campbell

Executive Director

Graffiti, Art, and Societal Responsibility

“Graffiti is terrorism in an embryo stage”

The quote above was the observation of a homeowner in a San Francisco bedroom community in the mid-1990’s. Despite efforts to eliminate it, his community was devastated by wave after wave of graffiti vandalism. He was fed up. But was his use of the word “terrorism” appropriate?

Although graffiti pales in comparison to the horrific events and aftermath of September 11th, it shares some of the terrorism variables which came to critical mass on that fateful day. Graffiti is a growing and global problem, but unless it touches an individual, it is often ignored by society at large. It is practiced and perpetuated by a sub-culture which embraces a value system at odds with mainstream society. And within mainstream society, the subculture has secured cells of support, sometimes unknowingly giving testimony to the subculture’s legitimacy, including avant-garde art institutions, institutions of higher education, and corporate giants.

Graffiti vandals often defend their practice with the observation that “graffiti has been around since the beginning of time.” There is some truth in that statement. However, contemporary graffiti is a quantum jump from “Dick loves Jane” carved on a tree or “Kilroy was here” written on a wall. Contemporary graffiti differs from those relatively harmless, “distant cousins” in many respects, including (1) societal cost, (2) community perceptions, (3) global organization for the vandalism, and (4) impact on youth.

Contemporary graffiti, often called “hip hop” or “tagger” graffiti, started in the Philadelphia-New York area in the 1970’s and 1980’s. A spin-off of gang graffiti in the ghettoes, it gradually became a subculture whose vocabulary and beliefs were spread nation-wide by word of mouth and hip-hop magazines. By the mid-1980’s municipalities were spending more to clean up tagger graffiti than gang graffiti (today, tagger graffiti comprises between 90 and 95% of the nation’s graffiti vandalism; gang graffiti comprises a very small portion.). Also, the tagger vandals were increasingly members of the middle and upper-middle class of society.

At-risk youth, typically with low self-esteem, pursue tagger graffiti to achieve what the subculture calls “fame”. Entry-level apprentices, called “toys,” often assume criminal status before they even approach their first wall, because the subculture advocates “racking” paint (stealing it). They refer to their vandalism as “writing;” practitioners are called “writers.” Taggers use three general forms of graffiti, (1) a simple tag, (2) a “throw-up” (bubble writing), and (3) a “piece” (or masterpiece). A “toy” typically makes gradual progress from tags to “pieces” and his “fame” is a product of talent (practice makes perfect!) and the sheer number of tags. Extra credit is given for what is called a “heavens tag,” graffiti placed on a difficult-to-reach place, like a high building, a bridge, or a freeway sign. Also, for more visibility, taggers frequently go on “bombing” runs, where a maximum number of targets are hit in a neighborhood or region. Building on that term, one of the major forces on the streets of New York City in the 1980’s was a vandal who used the moniker “Bom5.” He worked with a crew of vandals known as “Most Wanted.” In a November 1995 interview for a magazine called “Neid” BOM5 said: “I started my own crew in 1978. ‘Most Wanted’ because what was originally ‘Mad Writers’. The younger members of my crew are keeping the name alive and strong. WAE One is the one who takes care of my crew when it comes to illegal stuff right now….” WAE One continues to do illegal graffiti on the streets of New York City today. And Bom5 today? A few years ago, he admitted, in an interview, that he still hits trucks and illegal walls, but stays away from the subways. More on BOM5 later!

By the early 1990’s tagger graffiti was an immense municipal problem in larger municipalities like New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, San Francisco, and Los Angeles. But an electronic accelerant was about to be added to those smoldering crucibles: the Internet.

The Internet, with its chat rooms, allowed taggers to share insights, viewpoints, and methods (including such topics as how to “rack” paint, how to avoid parental detection when you’re on the streets at night, recommendations on paint, aerosol tips, and markers, and stylistic considerations). The Internet allowed a loose, geographically separated confederation of vandals to coalesce into a subculture.

But more help was on the horizon. In 1994, for her graduate student project, Susan Farrell secured permission from Georgia Tech University to develop a web site which highlighted the emerging graffiti subculture. Farrell would ultimately be a leading advocate of passing off the subculture’s vandalism as “art”. Appropriately, she named her website “Art Crimes”.

Art Crimes provided three major benefits to the emerging graffiti subculture: (1) an international art gallery for graffiti pieces, (2) a place for dialogue amongst graffiti practitioners, and (3) an on-line store where graffiti supplies could be ordered. Art Crimes became more than a website; it emerged as a global network, with repeater sites in Europe, Canada, and across the United States. The site received many awards for website design, and the leaders of Georgia Tech University basked in this acclaim. But in 1997 the President of Georgia Tech, Dr. Wayne Clough, along with the Georgia Tech Alumni Association, became the targets of a nation-wide letter-writing campaign, critical of the University’s apparent lack of social responsibility. Reluctantly (reluctant, despite the fact that Farrell had graduated long ago), the University removed the website from its server in late December 1997. A few days later, the site was back on the air as a commercial site It remains at that URL today.

To this day, Art Crimes brags about being “the first graffiti site on the net”. After Art Crimes’ appearance, copycat sites started emerging around the world. By 1997 there were hundreds. Today there are thousands.

Art Crimes continues to balance its advocacy of graffiti art with an underwhelming statement of social responsibility, viz: “In many places, painting graffiti is illegal. We do not advocate breaking the law…” In the shadow of the September 11th tragedy, one can’t imagine an aviation school protecting itself from societal criticism with the statement “In many places, hijacking of commercial airliners and crashing them into buildings is illegal…..”! But the subterfuge seems to have worked for Farrell.

If Farrell and Georgia Tech and others who take the narrow “it’s art!” view of graffiti were to expand their view to include other societal considerations, what might these be? Certainly the list should include cost and impact on youth.

Cost. Municipal cost is difficult to assess, because of the number of jurisdictions involved, the lack of uniform record keeping, and the fact that many instances of graffiti vandalism simply go unreported. But it is estimated that the annual cost of graffiti in the United States is between $15 and $18 billion. That’s a property-damage cost, which does not include such “soft costs” as loss of commerce, tourism, and lowered property values. And the cost is growing, especially as vandals use a new tool and medium for their “art”: etching or scribing on windows. The most common tools are hobby etching acid or diamond-tipped drill bits. Because of the immense cost of replacing windows, the damage often goes unrepaired, reminding all that there is “disorder” in the community. That’s the psychological cost, because graffiti is viewed as a symbol of “disorder”. The dynamics of this variable have been well documented by Dr. George Kelling in his book Fixing Broken Windows and by Dr. Catherine E. Ross, Ohio State University. Residents of neighborhoods do not like graffiti, and they often rank it above drug problems as a crime they would like to see emphasized more by law enforcement. Byproducts of this unsettling impact of graffiti are fear, an adverse impact on tourism and commerce, and lowered property values.

Youth Impact. What about the impact on youth who become involved in graffiti vandalism? In addition to “fame”, how else might graffiti impact their lives?

· Character. The subculture reinforces the belief that a citizen may select which laws are obeyed, and that it is OK to take actions that satisfy one’s own needs without consideration of the impact of those actions on victims. Some graffiti practitioners actually state that graffiti victims should be grateful to them, for the “art” which has been placed on their property. The following is a quote from one of Susan Farrell’s linked sites, reflecting a vandal’s retrospective view of a successful “etching” incident: “I LIVE FOR SCRIBING. THAT SHIT GETS ME GOING. HERES A LITTLE STORY. IT WAS LIKE 91 AND IM RIDIN THE 118 IN THE VALLEY. SK8 GETS ON THE BUS. I HAVE NO IDEA. HE TAPS ON THE BACK AND ASKS ME TO WATCH HIS BACK FOR A SEC. THEN THE KING DOES A SCRIBE PROD. ON THE WINDOW. DOES HIS PATENTED SK8-CBS THROW WITH SHADOWS AND A WAIST UP CHARACTER KIND OF LIKE THE ONE PRYER UTI DOES. THE HOLE THING FILLED HALF A WINDOW. AFTER HE FINISHED HE ASKED WHAT I WROTE THEN HE HIT IT UP THROW STYLE THANKED ME THEN GOT OFF THE BUS. SHIT JUST FUCKEN INSPIRED ME! IM LIKE 3 YEARS IN THE GAME AND THIS HAPPENS, I WAS ON A LIFE HIGH FOR AWHILE. PEACE.”

· Criminal Record. Contemporary graffiti vandalism often falls within the felony range of crimes, resulting in practitioners having a felony criminal record at an early age. For example, Timothy Badalucco, California’s celebrated “Graffiti King” was sentenced, at the age of 19, to a fine of $100,000 and probation. Subsequently violating the terms of the probation, he was sentenced to 36 months in state prison. Christopher Peters, a high school senior from Milwaukee, was sentenced to 51 months in prison. There are many, many more!

· Addiction. Many become addicted to the adrenalin rush which accompanies graffiti, and they simply cannot shake the habit. For example, a 30-year-old civil engineer in Philadelphia, driving a new BMW, was arrested for graffiti crimes and wound up spending 9 months in jail.

· Death. Paul Gazo, a Milwaukee youth, fell to his death when attempting to do a “heavens” tag. So did Mario Pinto, falling from a bridge in Cincinnati. Many others have suffered similar fates. Other taggers have been shot and killed when they were mistaken for prowlers. A big price for scribbling on a wall for “fame!”

There is no doubt that many graffiti “pieces” reflect great talent on the part of their creators. But at what cost? Although no precise figure can be identified, the journey from “toy” to talented, street-art “piecer” is traveled at immense societal cost. For example, consider the following recent Internet posting from a practicing graffiti vandal: “its funny how you think you can stop graffiti....ive been painting for 6 years...i havent ever been caught....ive done 498 pieces...hahaha....you trying to stop it makes the game more fun....you dont kno y i paint...so just shut up and be glad im not dealing drugs like our corrupted us government....all the U.S. government is worse than us...so settle down and experience graffiti for what it is...ART!!!!!” (Poesia, Sep 6, 2002). One former tagger, now frequently sought as a “recognized street artist,” admits that, during his heyday, he did millions of dollars damage in his community, both directly and through the actions of those he mentored. Reports from other communities indicate that a seven-figure price tag for the journey from “toy” to “local artist” is not unusual. A lot of money? Why should the “artist” be concerned? It’s not his money!

Even within the subculture, there is disagreement about whether graffiti is “art”. Consider the following recent observations of one who was a lieutenant in the movement, back in the 1980’s: Graffiti “.. is not part of hip hop just because a couple of movies and glossy magazines claim that it is…Graff is the product of criminals and the criminal minded. If you don’t believe me let me drop a list of all the criminal activities an actor is engaged in when producing graffiti:

a. retail theft

b. criminal trespassing

c. vandalism

d. resisting arrest

e. conspiracy (another generic charge but certainly valid and warranted when one considers all the pre-planning involved in producing a terroristic graffiti assault)”

Given the immense and growing cost of this criminal subculture, one would expect to see focused reaction by American institutions. One would expect to see anger. But such anger, and action based upon it, is often absent. It seems to reflect a recent observation by columnist John Leo, concerning the laissez-faire morality of our nation: “…a presumption that almost all behavior is beyond criticism, and that even destructive acts deserve understanding rather than judgment.” Was it this orientation that recently caused ambivalence by Columbia University on whether to buy an antiplagiarism system? Sandra Johnson, associate dean of student affairs, observed: “When students plagiarize, that usually means there’s something else wrong in their lives that needs dealing with.” And what about graffiti vandalism? When youth vandalize, should we be searching for something else that’s wrong in their lives, or should we be teaching them that decisions have consequences? If the latter, is that lesson taught when we elevate them to celebrity status as “renowned street artists?”

The reaction of many presumably responsible American institutions has not only been non-judgmental; in many cases their actions reflect an apparent desire to join and ally themselves with the criminal subculture. Examples:

· Institutions of higher learning. Georgia Tech University’s actions were mentioned earlier. There are many academic institutions which emulate their orientation, seemingly choosing “freedom of speech” and “freedom of academic pursuit” as the single criteria for consideration of the graffiti issue.

· Art galleries and art societies. Many have sponsored exhibits of active “street artists” in major cities, including Helsinki, Finland, Minneapolis, Seattle, and San Francisco. The exhibits act as a magnet for other “street artists,” and, in the aftermath, a dramatic and costly upsurge of graffiti vandalism radiates from the location of the exhibit. In many instances the featured “street artist” was arrested for doing illegal graffiti, on the streets of the host city, while his “art” was being displayed.

· IBM. IBM Corporation recently hired taggers to place sidewalk graffiti in many American cities, including New York, Chicago, and San Francisco. The graffiti was part of an advertising campaign for a new product line.

· Miller Brewing Company. Miller recently sponsored a TV advertisement showing a graffiti crew spray-painting a wall, and, upon completion of the task, sharing a six-pack of Miller Light. Apparently in response to public reaction, the advertisement was pulled.

· Nike. Nike’s website shows a vandal called NERV1 applying graffiti to a wall in east Los Angeles and observing that “Blank walls need love too.” Also, Nike markets a shirt with the familiar Nike name on the front, but using the style of glass-etched graffiti. When the clerk in the Nike store in Portland was asked about it, he replied, “That’s our graffiti shirt!” Nike has a well-deserved reputation for designing and marketing “hip” athletic gear. But should graffiti vandalism be given safe passage on the momentum of their well-earned “hip” reputation?

· Coca Cola. The soft drink giant has always had a very visible orientation toward helping the community grow as they grow. But two current campaigns are cause for concern.

Sprite, a Coca Cola subsidiary, is sponsoring a national program to highlight street art. Details are at their web site: The program features events in many major American cities. . For example, Sprite advertises that in December, in New York City, “Local graffiti artists will show off their best work at this exclusive Sprite.com VIP Card event….” . But are cities where millions of taxpayer dollars are being spent to combat graffiti appropriate settings for showcasing “local graffiti artists,” particularly with the prestige of Coca Cola and Sprite offered in support? Should “local graffiti artists” be presented as artistic heroes with no history of crime, with no responsibility for remorse or retribution?

A second program sponsored by Coca Cola is the “Youth Partnership Program,” part of which is an “Art of Harmony” art competition in Baltimore, Boston, Denver, Detroit, Houston, Los Angeles, New York, and Washington D.C. Working in collaboration with high school art teachers, students and teachers are eligible to win significant prizes. The community is involved through “judging panels comprised of distinguished local artists, community, business and civic leaders; art educators; media personalities; and Coca-Cola representatives.” The entire program would seem to be in step with a tenet of the Coca Cola Foundation: “to improve the quality of life in the community and enhance individual opportunity through education.”

But in contemporary America, one of the most-frequently identified detractors of community quality of life is widespread graffiti, vandalism whose true impact is softened by the euphemism “street art”. Most of the cities where Coca Cola is sponsoring this contest are spending millions of taxpayer dollars per year to try to cope with this senseless crime and to try to prevent their youth from joining the ranks of the criminals. For example, the Los Angeles basin (City of Los Angeles and Los Angeles County) spends $60 million per year!

But the culmination of Coca Cola’s Art of Harmony Program would seem to put the Program in conflict with those efforts: “…the Art of Harmony commissions locally renowned street artists in each city to transform the winning works into vast eye-catching murals. Besides sprucing up the city with color and inspiration, the murals serve as a constant reminder of the artistic talent that abounds in the local high schools. Such nationally recognized artists as Man One (Los Angeles), Bomfive (New York) and Roger Gastman (Washington, D.C.) are among those who have lent their considerable talents to re-creating the artwork into murals.”

“Locally renowned street artists?!” Renowned by whom? Renowned by local law enforcement agencies? Renowned by graffiti “toys” and at-risk youth? To orchestrate these local efforts, Coca Cola uses such “nationally recognized artists” as Bomfive, Roger Gasman, and Man One.

It’s not clear whether Bom5, the graffiti tagger who vandalized New York’s streets for decades, is the same person as Coca Cola’s “Bomfive”. Certainly the following are reasonable questions: (1) is this the same person? (2) if not, what is the basis of Bomfive’s national recognition as an artist? (3) If so, why is Coca Cola using a former vandal as one who will “lend his considerable” talent to high school art students? What message is sent to our youth, if one can do decades of criminal vandalism, emerge blameless as a seller of hip clothing, then be spotlighted as a national expert by a corporate giant like Coca Cola? If Bomfive is not Bom5, what was his basis of choosing a name which emulates a local vandal and tends to pay tribute to the subculture’s area-oriented vandalism called “bombing?”

Roger Gastman? In his 2001 book Free Agents: A History of Washington D.C. Graffiti Gastman presents the vandalism of D.C. taggers, including CERT, JOKER, ETCH and NAA, as a basis of celebration and as forms of meaningful artwork and self-expression. But how would local D.C. law enforcement agencies size up the work of these vandals?

Man One? The very first link at his web site is to Susan Farrell’s Art Crimes website. That’s not intended to be critical of a person who is obviously and passionately devoted to art. But it suggests an alignment of mindset in a contemporary world divided between those who view graffiti as crime and detractor from quality-of-life and those who view it as “art.”

In the aftermath of the September 11th tragedy it came to light that some Middle Eastern countries were supporting both the United States and terrorists. Is such behavior also appropriate in America for prestigious academic institutions and corporate giants in the case of graffiti vandalism? When the stakes are our own youth and our quality of life, isn’t it essential that our actions and our words are unambiguous? Isn’t it possible to have reasoned dialogue on this issue, dialogue which places the welfare of our youth as the paramount consideration? Can’t we stop expending countervailing efforts and money on this important issue? Those are difficult questions, ones that are more easily asked than answered!

In a recent interview ABC-TV’s Peter Jennings, a Canadian citizen, made the following observation about America: “Living in freedom is hard work….I know of no other people who act with better motives, though that doesn’t mean we always do the best…” For the important issue of graffiti vandalism, with its immense societal cost, there are many acting with different motives. But isn’t it time, to borrow a term from Coca Cola’s current campaign, that we act in “harmony” on this important issue?

Article on the website http://www.nograf.com or something of the sort...

Even within the subculture, there is disagreement about whether graffiti is “art”. Consider the following recent observations of one who was a lieutenant in the movement, back in the 1980’s: Graffiti “.. is not part of hip hop just because a couple of movies and glossy magazines claim that it is…Graff is the product of criminals and the criminal minded. If you don’t believe me let me drop a list of all the criminal activities an actor is engaged in when producing graffiti:

a. retail theft

b. criminal trespassing

c. vandalism

d. resisting arrest

e. conspiracy (another generic charge but certainly valid and warranted when one considers all the pre-planning involved in producing a terroristic graffiti assault)”

Given the immense and growing cost of this criminal subculture, one would expect to see focused reaction by American institutions. One would expect to see anger. But such anger, and action based upon it, is often absent. It seems to reflect a recent observation by columnist John Leo, concerning the laissez-faire morality of our nation: “…a presumption that almost all behavior is beyond criticism, and that even destructive acts deserve understanding rather than judgment.”

Im finding it weird how they dont mention this it weird that they dont actually mention this "lieutenant in the movement" by name

These suckers need to get over themselves. Graffiti is just people writing their names on shit. End of story.

^^exactly.

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Coca Cola has a well-deserved reputation for philanthropy, one that goes beyond the mere doling out of money and focuses on real community needs. It’s genuine, reflecting the words of your former jingle: “It’s the real thing!”

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The first line of this guys little essay is enough to write the entire thing off as crap. Obviously the guy is a mislead douchebag. I'm sure he's porud of all the insight he was able to share to other corporate pigs as they sat atop their high-pollution low wage factories and made the world better and gave themselves pats on the back. Dude needs to learnt his shit aint about trying to fit into the culture, it's about doing yuor own thing. And he hardly even makes a real attempt to explain how graffiti is terrorism. And wtf. The shit about every graffiti artist commiting all those acts of crimes is wrong. I think C (vandalism) is about the only one I'd be guilty of. Maybe criminal trespassing a few times, but sheesh. And the shit about not shaking the habit? Hell naw. And people falling to their deaths? Hey that's their own fucking fault. Dude is talking like we should close down flight instruction schools and shit cause of September 11th. What a cook. I could go on for hours.

:burn: :hatred:

Graffiti is socio-economical counter-terrorism.I see you sir, hiding behind fear.

I am a literal militant whose mind is a organ utilized in the process of defacing

the collective fear and ignorance of not just a culture but the world.

WE ARE HERE TO DESTROY YOU.

Until babylon fall and Zion-I.

We are soldiers of consciosness and revelation.

Kids dont listen to these over analytical wordy

bookworms and voyers try to determine or destiny.

This guy speaks like he has a real figure on the life.

Like its all that simple.

The truth of the writer is yet to be so set in stone.

keep dying for this this shit is Real!!

EnoughOne

LoveKing

HighLife

OneMIND

did anyone actually read that thing? i fell alseep after two paragraphs.

word of advice fixed: we are the ADD generation. maybe playing it on mtv would have more of an effect

well, from what ive read, this guys done a little homework. Its always good to hear things from a different viewpoint. It doesnt make me want to stop, who knows, maybe if i get addicted ill be driving a bmw when im 30, ha.

edit: so is he relating this shit to coke cola? or does coke fund them.

writers are the american terrorist faction dominating the thoughts of millions

::yawn:: i need to read my art history right now thanks

a. retail theft ·Check!

b. criminal trespassing ·Check!

c. vandalism ·Check!

d. resisting arrest ·Check!

e. conspiracy (another generic charge but certainly valid and warranted when one considers all the pre-planning involved in producing a terroristic graffiti assault)” ·Check!

FUCK THIS SHIT. I'm tired of all these goddamn scholars trying to analyze graff. You can call it "terrorism" if you want to PISS AND SHIT all over the people who died in REAL FUCKIN TERRORISM. Seriously that is the most bullshit thing ever, and to compare graffiti to terrorism is a fuckin slap in the face to anyone who's ever been affected by real terrorism.

FUCK THIS BULLSHIT. Also...OBviously graffiti takes huge artistic skill, but that don't mean its art. It's better then art. Art is for fags. Fuck you .

a sub-culture which embraces a value system at odds with mainstream society.

OH GOD NO! NOT THAT!

fuck them.

:nope: :nope: :nope:

graffitti = Last true form of "freedom of speech"

Authority labeling those who participate in this truly patriotic act = "Pot calling kettle black"

Graffitti is not whats wrong with this country..Scared people who feel they should do as theyre told is what causes graffitti to look out of control, culminating a sense of insecurity..:shook:

It basically comes to down to knowledge, ignorance, brainwash, and corruption.

It basically comes to down to knowledge, ignorance, brainwash, and corruption.

randy campbell is a cop turned "commercial combatant" of graffiti. in other words, he traded his crusade to end graffiti using the law, to trying to make a buck doing it.

hell, i just wanna keep the buff man, and buff woman, busy with somethin to buff. Damn. Yea, basinbot, true. Bomb the suburbs by wimsatt pretty much sums it up.

haha great, that's an inspiring article

Maybe they are just scared cuz they see graffitti everywhere every time, i imagine that they think: oh if this guys painted here ad here and enter here what else could they do, and with the 9/11 paranoia they are scared like hell.

i think that is whats going on

fucking stupids

:five-o: :five-o: :five-o: :five-o: :five-o:

The coca cola brand itself is worth so much that if their main facility in atl was to burn down the name brand it self could cover all expenses to be up and running in less than one week.....

graffiti will be remembered as one of the most revolutionary art forms in our world's history...studied and analayzed by scholars and students across the world. rarely is something of this magnitude created, and for it to be in our lifetime is a true blessing.

can't stop, won't stop.

"Residents of neighborhoods do not like graffiti, and they often rank it above drug problems as a crime they would like to see emphasized more by law enforcement."

my friend, you need to take your head out of your ass, and leave that posh gated community you obviously live in out in the affluent stix somewhere, and come into the hood.... ask some of the responsible old heads on the block where im from, the ones who struggle and work EVERY day just to make ends meat whether they would rather send there kids past some brothers holdin tre-pounds and crackrocks or past some fuckin tags and see what kind of answer you get... bitch ass nigga, try speakin for the MAJORITY of people who live in the community's graffiti predominetly affects.... the lower to lower middle class family's... you make me fucking sick.... also everything PEAK^ said up there strikes a chord as well... what a fucking slap in the face... this world and specifically this country have REAL pfucking problems, and honestly graffiti should be the last fucking thing there worrying about.... fucking asshole... quote this in your next little graff bashing call to arms bitch....

shit like this only inspires me to get out and get up more. give these ignorant motherfuckers more to write about... :hatred:

this essay is majorily flawed. it does not define terrorism.

saying art = terrorism means that terrorism is art and therefore art is terrorism and terrorism is no longer terrorism but art. and art has become terorrism but its not terrorism anymore because its now art.

therefore the whole essay is undermined.

huh?

THIS IS WHY I HATE CORPORATE DUESCHBAGS.

however, by continuing to criminilize graffiti into a serious felony they are destroying peoples lives.

not that i need to explain this here...but what a fuck ass that wrote that....

if you take into account the severe lack of educational and community resources that gave birth to graffiti culture...the decay of the family structure as well as societys structural decline lumped on top of high homicide rates for inner city youth, especially of color, graffiti should be paled in comparison. however, 18 billion is a lot of graffiti to clean up, personally i would rather see that 18 billion go to education.

but come on now, whoever wrote that needs to check the fact that our goverment just violated every law in the world pretty much, has bankrupted our treasury, and people who do the most graffiti age wise are now wrapped up in a hellish war with the reinstatement of the draft right around the corner.

talk about negativley affecting the community.

graffiti is a blatant malicous act of expression.

while i did once compare it to terrorism myself, only idealistically, as in people fighting because they feel what the believe in is right.

terrorists? you want terrorists?

check the children of satan ala our federal goverment.

punk ass kids writing their name on shit is a remarkable use of energy and incredibly effective when done right.

it looks cool to.

i mean personally if they were like, hey paint this wall and well help you pay for school and incorporate you into the economy instead of paying 50 grand a year to lock you up.

i mean you wanna talk vandalism?

try the for profit prison system in cali that is BILLIONS of dollars over budget and corrupt to the point im sure there are geneva convention violations.

im really bored.

your majoritively rite... although i dont cae to much about the whole children of satan conspirecy/background thing... although i agree with some of his principal beliefs, lyndon larouche is pretty much a crock, i mean cmon as much as id love to see it, youll never eliminate the minimum wage job.... cant be done, i wish it could, but it cant bro... until a legitimate working class third paty is developed were basically screwed......

i bought a book called Children of Satan....

I mean only children of satan could steal the election, degrade our social infrastructure, repeal our civil rights, kill thousands of people and rob us blind while half the country probably voted for these criminals.

its not a conspiracy, its reality.

all bad.

I concur with B As In Bot.