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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by bodice_ripper, Feb 5, 2002.

  1. bodice_ripper

    bodice_ripper Elite Member

    Joined: May 10, 2000 Messages: 3,195 Likes Received: 25
    I've been watching the goth-abuse that pops up around the forum, and I do find it funny. I would consider myself a goth ( mind you, I don't know if they always consider me one.....).
    What I don't understand, is why a lot of writers seem to consider themselves above goths. See, I've experienced both scenes and found the following things in common:

    1) the "scene" goth or writer
    - you know the type, knows EVERYONE involved in the local scene. Is hyper-aware of their standing in the heirarchy, who its ok to talk to,

    2) Clothing
    - now this DOES NOT apply to every writer or goth. Any decent goth will be about the music, any decent writer will be about writing. BUT There are those who spend an daft amount of money on clothes, goths its corsets, writers its shoes or tops with graff on them. I've been to goth nightclubs and hip-hop nights, and in both instances everyone who entered was looked up and down by narky people at the bar.

    3) Netgoths and Netwriters
    - its that simple

    4) "Old Skool"
    - constant bickering about how shit was better back in the day, before all these new fake goths/writers arrived. How Marilyn Manson/Nelly is destroying everything good about the scene.

    5) Sexuality
    - (this does not apply to all writers or goths) Writers can be very homophobic, and its a mortal SIN to be definitely straight if you're a goth.

    6) Drug of Choice
    - with writers it appears to be weed, with goths its speed. Everyone drinks beer on both sides, but the goths insist on putting blackcurrant in theirs

    Now I'm not bitching, just observing. Are there any other goths on the board who have noticed similarities?

    Anyway, haterz:rolleyes: , I'm sure this post will attract you like an inexperienced writer, so take you best shot.
  2. bobobi11

    bobobi11 Elite Member

    Joined: Dec 15, 2000 Messages: 2,807 Likes Received: 0
    I'm sure I'm going to regret this but are you saying to be goth you have to be gay or at least bi? I'm not hating, I'm not homophobic, I am just curious about your statement.
  3. Devilush

    Devilush 12oz Legend

    Joined: Feb 1, 2001 Messages: 17,035 Likes Received: 2
    ya know that is a pretty bold statement......please do explain.
  4. iCEBERG

    iCEBERG Senior Member

    Joined: Oct 22, 2001 Messages: 2,039 Likes Received: 0
    what the hell is blackcurrent?

    an i'll refrain from commenting on #5.
  5. Devilush

    Devilush 12oz Legend

    Joined: Feb 1, 2001 Messages: 17,035 Likes Received: 2
    black currant is a berry...like a cherry but it's darker.
  6. shameless self promotion

    shameless self promotion 12oz Legend

    Joined: Mar 7, 2001 Messages: 16,307 Likes Received: 112
    ever had absolut currant? Its vodka that tastes like those berries, good if you take it straight or mix it with some kind of grape soda, or kool aid..
  7. RaiD

    RaiD Guest

    i wear all black... i like punk rock... i look dark and mysterious(sometimes)...some consider me gothic to an extent... im comletely straight... in fact i think goth chicks are hot as fuck! take your steriotypes and shove them up your tight preppy ass! fucking idiot.
  8. NeO

    NeO New Jack

    Joined: Nov 16, 2001 Messages: 91 Likes Received: 0
    yeah most goth chicks are fine as hell
  9. NATO

    NATO Guest

  10. NATO

    NATO Guest

    i have a feeling Kr430n5_666 may become involved in this post.
  11. Big Bruno

    Big Bruno Senior Member

    Joined: Oct 8, 2001 Messages: 2,472 Likes Received: 70
    except for the fat ones that try to squeeze into the little corsets, eeeewww....
  12. Zyl one

    Zyl one New Jack

    Joined: Oct 21, 2001 Messages: 67 Likes Received: 0
    when he was talking about that sexuality goth shit i think he was being sarcastic.

    i am a mutt... goth, punk, rudie, writer, techno dude(gabber ONLY, and i love all industrial post apacolypse type things)

    i do hate labels tho. i mean yeha i suut said that im so many things, but thats jsut to give u an understanding.

    alot of rappers in general seem to hate on goths n rockers
  13. lil'moco

    lil'moco Junior Member

    Joined: Apr 12, 2000 Messages: 143 Likes Received: 0
    If I ever meet you I'm seriously gonna knock you out.
  14. Kr430n5_666

    Kr430n5_666 Banned

    Joined: Oct 6, 2004 Messages: 19,229 Likes Received: 30
    i know a shitload about the gothic culture and a shitload of the graffiti culture. i dont like scenes. i dont like scenesters. for the most part, i insult scenesters and people who label themselves. i am not a "writer". i do graffiti sometimes. i havent done any graff in a while. i dont care. i have been called gothic, i have been called thug, i have been called raver, i have been called a lot. people who label themselves are fucking stupid. labels are opinions. to call yourself something is to give an opinion of yourself, but you distribute it freely where others can say you arent something. no one is ever right. everything is an opinion. i like to have fun. so i make fun. i may have even posted myself on here insulting myself. you never know. who cares who is who or what is what. its all opinion. everything in "life" is an opinion. who cares. have fun. weeeeeeeeeeeee.
  15. Kr430n5_666

    Kr430n5_666 Banned

    Joined: Oct 6, 2004 Messages: 19,229 Likes Received: 30
    also...dont get me wrong...i feel bad for the "real" goths and the "real" writers because both cultures are in ruins. eepie eepie ach ach i am a robotic warrior from pencil-land.