GucciHoochie Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Sometimes I notice when i'm walking down my line of 20 or so reefer cars, their is a lot of junk on most of them. Now I know most toys, or "unexperienced" writers dont think to themselves (this nice white reefer train should be for the "better skilled", or "been in the game for years") type of painters like me and some of you. So does this give us the right to go over the less skilled/weak style painters that are on a very special train car like any reefer, cryo's and rare box cars? When I was a younger lad i'm sure most of my paintings were gone over by better painters if I was up on their sold cold or brand new golden west flat car. So next time I walk up to your non-skilled freight that is on one of them hard to catch trains, it might not look the same a couple hours later.. P.s. Please remember i'm not talking about capping toys on any old freight, I could care less about any old freight, this thread is for the big boys who do big thangs! Holla. :king: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREL.S.NIKAH Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 i already started doing this years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GucciHoochie Posted August 29, 2004 Author Share Posted August 29, 2004 Me too my friend, me too.. :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunm Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Originally posted by GucciHoochie does this give us the right to go over the less skilled/weak style painters that are on a very special train car like any reefer, cryo's and rare box cars? yes, yes and yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo knife Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 .:toys beware:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
type R Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 first come, first serve. i avoid painting over people if possible, if i have to give up a flat to paint a coalie, oh well, guess i should get off my ass and paint more so i can have first dibs on shit next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Originally posted by type R first come, first serve. i concur. however if im somewhere and there is a beautiful ass train with some small horrid crap on it, i'll go over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GucciHoochie Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 I really believe deep down, writers with weak skills & style know they are weak, so if they have more than 10 freights to choose from, stay off the god dam new reefers because we dont need a first coat!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
type R Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Originally posted by angelofdeath i concur. however if im somewhere and there is a beautiful ass train with some small horrid crap on it, i'll go over it. stop concurring and call a brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#WaffleCunt# Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 who fucking cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZedIsAlive Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 watch out now...the term "better skilled" is relative. just because you think your a "better skilled" writer dosent mean the entire writing community is in agreeance. you could very easily be a victim of the same situation of which you speak. im not tryin to call you out or anyone for that matter cause i dont know what any of you write, but just read the opinions of various styles on this board and you will see that one mans trash is another mans treasure. what it usually boils down to for me is whether i have enough paint to completely cover the piece on the car i want to paint. but im not really a box car fag so i hardly ever have that problem on greybellies, gondolas and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porque Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 ...karma can be a bitch...we can all benefeit from a little humility now and then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffisjonzon Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 humility schmilty rabble rabble whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war pigs Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 if you're gonna go over some shit...cover it.. and make sure you can burn it...and not just by your standards...cuz alot of fools who think they're so dope actually suck..haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZedIsAlive Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Originally posted by war pigs ...and not just by your standards... yeah but thats what um sayin. who is the judge? especially in a lay-up when your probably with some fools that are down with you. your standard is really the only one there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Originally posted by ZedIsAlive watch out now...the term "better skilled" is relative. so true. theres tons of people out here on the west coast painting frieghts with 6 months under their belt probably going over history cause they got some warped mindset. golden west flats look like some random irrigation ditch, and im sure theres some history under all those layers of egos that thought they could burn the next guy. if youre really that worried about it, just paint as big as you can, and as much as you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arekshun Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Survival of the fittest.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*SIZEROKS* Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 one of my friends called it opperation clean up..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANKMAN Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 if it worth dissing someone else go for it.... no toy is gonna care if he gets dissed by a good writer, and if for some reason, tha toy managed to work on his shit, and get to the point of being okay, i doubt he would care if you went over his old ass weak shit... he should be embarrased of it... i know i wouldnt mind if some of my early trains got dissed..... i kinda hope they do... i think as a person interested in good grafffiti on trains, you have an obligation to go over the bad shit... there is way too much of it, if you can find a shitty piece, put a good one in its place, it will help clean up the lines...... something that needs to be done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Originally posted by The Dude golden west flats look like some random irrigation ditch Hahaha...funny. Graffiti is an assertive sport to begin with. You put up your name, you take your chances, stuff gets capped, dissed, buffed, you try to do more to stay up. Your old wack stuff will get gone over, that's life. Nobody has the "right" to go over toys - nobody has the right to paint trains at all. It's a matter of, it's not worth going home with a full bag (or doing that gondola instead of this nice car) to let this particular shit ride, so I'm asserting myself and going over it. Just be ready for the consequences which sometimes come up. The cautionary note is the difference between weak shit you think is something to go over, and noteworthy history. Some shit that is not the best stuff by an older writer becomes classic if enough years go by. In every corner where a scene is old enough - and that's more places than you might think - you'll find a freight historian who champions certain pioneers from that area, and is pissed that people are going over their old, classic stuff, because it's not super dope to look at, but it's from fifteen years ago. There is something depressing about seeing a clean but mediocre piece from a relative newjack, and poking out from underneath is the edge of a hollow by Spray or Porn and you know the newjack has never heard of them and probably wouldn't give a shit if you told him what was up. Writers are going to do what they want, fact of life. I would warn people to use more caution the older the stuff is that they're about to go over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war pigs Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Originally posted by ZedIsAlive yeah but thats what um sayin. who is the judge? especially in a lay-up when your probably with some fools that are down with you. your standard is really the only one there is. yeah..i know what you're saying, i was just trying to take an objective approach... i just think alot of newer writers tend to think they're better than they are alot of times, because the general standards of freight train graffiti has dropped, but at the same time i suck so i'm not really anyone to judge anything... avoid going over shit, unless it's unavoidable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZedIsAlive Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Originally posted by Cracked Ass Hahaha...funny. Graffiti is an assertive sport to begin with. You put up your name, you take your chances, stuff gets capped, dissed, buffed, you try to do more to stay up. Your old wack stuff will get gone over, that's life. Nobody has the "right" to go over toys - nobody has the right to paint trains at all. It's a matter of, it's not worth going home with a full bag (or doing that gondola instead of this nice car) to let this particular shit ride, so I'm asserting myself and going over it. Just be ready for the consequences which sometimes come up. The cautionary note is the difference between weak shit you think is something to go over, and noteworthy history. Some shit that is not the best stuff by an older writer becomes classic if enough years go by. In every corner where a scene is old enough - and that's more places than you might think - you'll find a freight historian who champions certain pioneers from that area, and is pissed that people are going over their old, classic stuff, because it's not super dope to look at, but it's from fifteen years ago. There is something depressing about seeing a clean but mediocre piece from a relative newjack, and poking out from underneath is the edge of a hollow by Spray or Porn and you know the newjack has never heard of them and probably wouldn't give a shit if you told him what was up. Writers are going to do what they want, fact of life. I would warn people to use more caution the older the stuff is that they're about to go over. you are entirely too smart for your own good.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malice Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 people have been going over people for ages and not just the toy shit either. Alot of writers go painting and find themselves with slim pickins and they'll go over whatever just so they can paint. It sucks to think about but it happens. But just remember what goes around comes around and for every fool you're out there cappin' someone might be out there cappin' you. I try and be as courteous as possible and A) not go over anyone if I don't have to B) if I do I pick the least likely shit to be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I personally don't care if the person sucks or not. If they got to it first i'm painting a different car unless NOTHING else is there. Now, if there is room on the car i'll do that section... but I tend to stay off of other peoples work. I still respect people that suck at graffiti because they are going out there trying to do their own thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo knife Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I think the original point of this thread was asking what people think about leaving the better (more sought after trains) for the more serious sprayers. Not just whether it's ok to go over what you might think is wack graffiti. If you saw one of your dream cars layed up at your best spot and some no-name, first timer had disgraced the only possible panel to paint with some nasty shit, why not do the train a favor and cover it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever One Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 If I can burn what's there the fr8 is mine, period. Or at least that's the way I looked at it when I was still writing (I'm a wack <u>"legal wall only"</u> type of cat now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GucciHoochie Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 Originally posted by hobo knife I think the original point of this thread was asking what people think about leaving the better (more sought after trains) for the more serious sprayers. Not just whether it's ok to go over what you might think is wack graffiti. If you saw one of your dream cars layed up at your best spot and some no-name, first timer had disgraced the only possible panel to paint with some nasty shit, why not do the train a favor and cover it. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ten Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Originally posted by iloveboxcars I personally don't care if the person sucks or not. If they got to it first i'm painting a different car unless NOTHING else is there. Now, if there is room on the car i'll do that section... but I tend to stay off of other peoples work. I still respect people that suck at graffiti because they are going out there trying to do their own thing. [/quote what he said im still toy as fuck but when im in the yard i dont cover shit.. "unessessary beef is more cows to breed" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krowteN Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Originally posted by 2ten Originally posted by iloveboxcars "unessessary beef is more cows to breed" is that from a GZA song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeYnO9 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Originally posted by GucciHoochie big boys who do big thangs! Holla. :king: dude you sound so gay. Im glad i aint no "bigboy" id kill myself if i attached such a title to my psyche. SHOOOT ME PLEASE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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