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GM pulls plug on electric cars

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Weapon X, Apr 10, 2003.

  1. Weapon X

    Weapon X 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Sep 6, 2002 Messages: 14,905 Likes Received: 202
    GM pulls plug on electric cars
    Last Updated Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:11:44
    DETROIT - General Motors will scrap its electric car program in light of California relaxing its zero-emission car program.

    The automaker says it's taking the cars off the road as leases expire because it can no longer supply parts for them.

    GM built more than 1,000 two-seater EV1 cars. About 375 are still in use. Dave Barthmuss of GM says the company expects to have the cars off the road by the end of 2004.

    MARKETPLACE: Electric Cars

    The automaker plans to ship the cars to museums and universities and to a research lab in New York.
    California announced a zero tolerance program on car emissions in 1990 requiring 10 per cent of cars to be non-polluting by 2003. That edict had car manufacturers scrambling to meet the new rules.

    Since then, regulators have started to cave as automakers fought the regulation in court and public hearings.

    FROM Jan. 6, 2003: More eco-friendly cars in near future

    Only two years ago, GM had proclaimed the EV1 as the "car of the future."
    It now says the vehicles have no future because they are limited to a range of about 160 km, require long recharge times and are too expensive to appeal to the general population.

    Most automakers have retreated from battery-powered cars and are looking more at gas-electric hybrids, natural-gas powered and fuel-cell cars. GM and Suzuki announced in September they would build a hybrid truck at a plant in Ingersoll, Ontario.

    The Toyota Prius and the Honda Insight are the two best-selling hybrid cars in North America.

    "To us driving battery electric vehicles, we're saying, 'Hey you're left us hanging out to dry,'" says Greg Hanssen of the Production Electric Vehicle Drivers Coalition.

    Hanssen says state regulators have bent to the complaints of industry.

    "They've gone from being regulators to just asking politely, 'Gee, industry, would you do this?'"

    Written by CBC News Online staff
  2. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 12, 2000 Messages: 6,979 Likes Received: 2

    Ignoring the problem wont make it go away.
    Eventually the dependency on oil will cripple north america.
  3. imported_grim540

    imported_grim540 Member

    Joined: Jul 16, 2001 Messages: 465 Likes Received: 0
    its not as bad as it seems, the electric cars were extremely inefficent, and very costly. Hopefully they will be turning more attention to hydrogen fuel cell cars.

    Check out this months WIRED magazine for more info on the fuel cell movement that is underway.
  4. Dirty_habiT

    Dirty_habiT Administrator

    Joined: Mar 8, 2001 Messages: 18,136 Likes Received: 82
    At which point I'll be moving to Mexico, Canada, or the UK.
  5. T.T Boy

    T.T Boy Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 18, 2001 Messages: 21,803 Likes Received: 41
    because canada and mexico arent part of north america.
  6. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 12, 2000 Messages: 6,979 Likes Received: 2
    I was wonderin who would catch that.

    I'm moving to Central America.
    You mean like Kansas?
  7. Dirty_habiT

    Dirty_habiT Administrator

    Joined: Mar 8, 2001 Messages: 18,136 Likes Received: 82
    Haha, oh well, you get the point... I'll go somewhere else to live if the States fall to that point. Social studies and geography were never my strong points in school, and it's obvious. I thank you all for your tactfulness in finding and correcting my mistake.
  8. When

    When 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: May 4, 2000 Messages: 10,294 Likes Received: 3
    i read somewhere that in a study toyota did
    that they would actually end up having to give an electric rav4 to people
    instead of them purchasing it and give them a few thousand dollars
    for them to even consider driving it

    now that is hilarious
    i think the article was in car and driver but im not sure

    also i think that honda hybrid car would be pretty cool
    if it didnt have skirts on the rear fenders
  9. misteraven

    misteraven Administrator

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    Seems like a biased article since there's not mention of Hydrogen research.

    I just saw a report on how GM is leading the research on zero emission Hydrogen based transportation. They've already invested $1 Billion and are working with the US Government to get more funding.

    Hydrogen seems to be a far better, as well as more ecologically sound alternative than electric motors.
  10. skunkjuice

    skunkjuice New Jack

    Joined: Mar 10, 2003 Messages: 26 Likes Received: 0
    Is it just me, or am I the only one who thinks the timing on this is a little fishy?
  11. When

    When 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: May 4, 2000 Messages: 10,294 Likes Received: 3
    well it wasnt a comparitive article
    it was just based on a research group toyota put together
    because they were planning on releasing an all electric rav4

    i have the magazine with the article somewhere in my room but i cant find it at the moment

    hydrogen does seem to be a very good alternative
    and as far as my understanding goes there wouldnt have to be much modification
    to current gas engines to convert them to hydrogen