george tenet resigns

ok, i won't front, i dont know much about tenet or what this might mean, what might be behind it, etc. but im sure someone does. so please, discuss.

As far as i know Tenet's been on the hotseat for quite some time for allowing the cia-produced report about iraq buying uranium, which turned out to be completely false and fabircated, fall into W's hands. Seems to me that he's just a scapegoat, regaurdless of whether or not he knew of the report's nature, W wanted to use it to justify the complete fuck up in iraq.

Next batter up= Rumsfeld (hopefully)

yeah...I got the cnn breaking news bit on this. I'm not really sure what to make of it either.

fall guy number one.

i think the administration has taken its time to try and figure out how they could do something public, with the most gain with the least pain.

I don't know but I assume it's related to the false, outdated, and even fabricated intelligence regarding Iraq. And the 9/11 intelligence debacle probably relates to that too.

Either way, looking at the big picture I think incidents like these shed a negative light on the Bush Administration as a whole, dropping the public approval rating even more -- which hopefully will help prevent Bush from getting re-elected.

Originally posted by heavyLox

fall guy number one.QUOTE]

 

yep. or #2 if you count the chalabi debacle.

yeah, i know about the false information/9.11 connection and all that, what i meant more specifically is what exactly the bush administration would be getting out of him leaving. tenet never spoke out against bush and even when he was individually blamed for mistakes, he still just kind of took it. everyone apparently knew that bush wanted him out, i'm just not sure what gain there is in it. like theo said, any cuts from the team now make the team look weak all along. it's admitting there were mistakes. was it perhaps to put someone in his place that would act as even more of a puppet?

sorry, im dumb today and cant think straight. where is villian and browner? i need the rest of my cabinet. haha.

well i didn't know bush wanted him out.

i'm sure they'll be some keen political insight

to this event in the next few days, but right now

the only thing weird was teh announcement itself.

tenet is probably fed up.

Chalabi wasn't a fall guy, he was an iranian agent.

I see cracks in the armor.

Originally posted by BROWNer

Originally posted by heavyLox

fall guy number one.QUOTE]

 

yep. or #2 if you count the chalabi debacle.

 

chalabi was a potential puppet. never could he be a propper fall guy. the US needs US fall men. for the world to care.

 

most arabs whom hate the US revel in what chalabi is claimed to have done. lie to american and get ti to do shit on his behest.

really chalbi was playing both ends against the middle so what ever happens to him he deserves.

oh yes he is a fall guy. whether it works is yet to be seen*although it's

looking increasingly lame..*

the allegations that he passed sensitive info is apart of that,

not an exclusionary thing.

well ive suspected that iran didnt get info from him, or at least the info that the US is saying. I dont see the end game in blaming him for passing secrets. Chalabi wasnt widly liked in iraq; he was seen as a puppet to washington. The us might have tried to use him to get backend intel from iran, if they knew he was close to iran. Which they did cause the admin encouraged him to set up an office in terhan.

I can only assume chalabi was bugged and followed in an attempt to find out terhans true feelings and intentions in regaurd to various regional shituations.

but by fall guy i meant more of a figure head for the world. I think the US blaming an forgiener is some what pointless due to the wide distrust od america and its motivations.

yea, i think it's probably bullshit that the US broke

iranian code. i think their response made perfect

sense considering the climate.

chalabi is a classic example of a guy that

washington knew was a slimeball, but used him for

as long as he was useful and not a problem. now

he is a problem, so initially the end game would be

to blame a large part of the faulty intel on the INC

while letting the OSP off the hook and it's proponents.

maybe that's a simple analysis.

i agree this isn't a 'proper' fall guy scenario, but it's

just a classic move to shift blame somewhere other

than US officials. unfortunately for the bush cartel

chalabi is throwing some good jabs.

on the Tennant thing ... he was appointed to that position by Clinton back in 97. I'm sure he is aware of some of the high level conspiracy shit, and with all the 9/11 investigations & pre-Iraq inteligence investigation wraping up he just wants to be as far removed from this as possible by the time the shit hits the fan.

word is these reports are highly critical of many people across the board, from CIA, FBI, NSA to the Whitehouse.

my guess is he was privy to some info he didnt want to know about and is trying to avoid being caught up in it. but thats just a guess !!

its a good & a bad thing ... its good to see the delicate house of cards(decit) starting to lose some of its strength at the base, too bad its not all comming down yet.

I keep forgeting some of what George Tenet has said. I bet an even bigger fascist will take over.

Haha... seeks cabinet...

You guys pretty much summed up my feelings on this. This is the blame game yet again. They've been blaming the CIA for faulty intel and others say the Bush admin. was stressing to find dirt on Iraq to justify the war. We know it's really all about the oil. It has always been about the oil. Airstrikes and UNSCOM took care of the WMD problem years ago. Bush himself said there was no connection to al queda.

I'm really rather surprised the director of central intelligence himself resigned... especially since a "better" fall guy (chalabi) is now taking the rap. Makes me think that Tenet is tired of being a stooge.... and what ODS-1 is saying seems to confirm that.... where did you hear that ODS-1?

On a lighter note, W Bush has hired a lawyer because of the Valerie Plame name drop. Make him sweat.

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Originally posted by villain

Haha... seeks cabinet...

 

You guys pretty much summed up my feelings on this. This is the blame game yet again. They've been blaming the CIA for faulty intel and others say the Bush admin. was stressing to find dirt on Iraq to justify the war. We know it's really all about the oil. It has always been about the oil. Airstrikes and UNSCOM took care of the WMD problem years ago. Bush himself said there was no connection to al queda.

 

I'm really rather surprised the director of central intelligence himself resigned... especially since a "better" fall guy (chalabi) is now taking the rap. Makes me think that Tenet is tired of being a stooge.... and what ODS-1 is saying seems to confirm that.... where did you hear that ODS-1?

 

On a lighter note, W Bush has hired a lawyer because of the Valerie Plame name drop. Make him sweat.

outside of the faulty WMD info, which who knows if it really came from the CIA, what was tenet's deal? he seems to have been fairly respected by alot of people around washington. but i could be mistaken. he's obviously not a rumsfeld or ashcroft.

villian,

by 'the cabinet' i was not implying 'my cabinet', just so we're clear. all of us that regularly discuss this stuff bring something to the table, and its all just for eachother.

(so i guess you could say we're a socialist cabinet).

;)

ODS-1: I thought you meant you heard Tenet say that someone worse would take over.

Seeking: Gotcha.... I'm all about the round table.

Tenet's resignation is just as puzzling to me.

"It's a slam dunk."

Good riddance.

Congress should have never ceded their power to declare war to the president. Look at this mess. Top officials don't even know what the hell is going on. The lonesome cowboy.

well, whatever the deal is, nobody is off the hook.

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!! FUCKING "MERLIN" IS GOING TO BE THE TEMPORARY HEAD OF THE CIA!!!!

Even people within the CIA don't even know who "Merlin" really is. They just supposedly said his "real" name and said he is only temporarily appointed because he's not really a diplomatic figure. No fucking shit. He's the spookiest spook who ever spoked.

Hmm... what does Falco have to do with Merlin.... Hmmm....

hahaha

Josh Marshall weighs in:

What about Tenet? All the chatter -- not to mention simple logic -- says he was fired. The Times gets it right when they say that the way this was announced was "almost bizarre."

 

Actually, here concision should be the handmaiden of precision. Drop the "almost". It was bizarre.

 

Thus the Times ...

Mr. Bush announced the resignation in a way that was almost bizarre. He had just addressed reporters and photographers in a fairly innocuous Rose Garden session with Australia's prime minister, John Howard. Then the session was adjourned, as Mr. Bush apparently prepared to depart for nearby Andrews Air Force Base and his flight to Europe, where he is to take part in ceremonies marking the 60th anniversary of the Normady invasion and meet European leaders — some of whom have been sharply critical of the campaign in Iraq.

But minutes later, Mr. Bush reappeared on the sun-drenched White House lawn, stunning listeners with the news of Mr. Tenet's resignation, which the president said would be effective in mid-July. Until then, Mr. Bush said, the C.I.A.'s deputy director, John McLaughlin, will be acting director.

 

The president praised Mr. Tenet's qualities as a public servant, saying: "He's strong. He's resolute. He's served his nation as the director for seven years. He has been a strong and able leader at the agency. He's been a, he's been a strong leader in the war on terror, and I will miss him."

 

Then Mr. Bush walked away, declining to take questions or offer any insight into what Mr. Tenet's personal reasons might be.

The more interesting question is whether we get to hear from Tenet before he grabs the one-way for Guantanamo.

 

Word has been out for some time that the Senate Intelligence Committee report on intelligence failures is terrible for Tenet. So that could be a cause of his resignation.

 

For my part, Tenet strikes me as a sort of tragic figure. Under his tenure the CIA got many things wrong about Iraq -- though largely by making estimates in the direction his critics, who now want him sacked, embraced. (A person who's intimately knowledgeable about this intel stuff recently told me that their sense was that the CIA would have gotten a lot of the basic intel stuff wrong without any help from Chalabi.) Then, on top of these errors, the White House added further gross exaggerations, which in many instances Tenet tried to knock down.

 

Now he's the fall-guy for it all, in all likelihood made to take the fall by the true bad-actors.

 

Having said all that, beside the possibility that the White House's favored Iraqi exile was an Iranian agent, that the spy chief just got canned, that the OSD is wired to polygraphs, and that the president has had to retain outside counsel in the investigation into which members of his staff burned one of the country's own spies, I'd say the place is being run like a pretty well-oiled machine.

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