QCrisp Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Just thought i'd post this up because its relevant to Graff, Brits and Americans. What do the Americans think about the IRA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbivore Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 it's kind of hard to read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knuckle_game Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Originally posted by Herbivore@Mar 17 2005, 09:28 AM it's kind of hard to read Quoted post I think it's a response to the IRA recently killing this guy who mouthed off to one of them in a bar. The guys sisters have had a vendetta against the IRA ever since and are calling for people who know anything about the case to speak up. I assume the graffitti is the IRA advising people to keep thier mouths shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCrisp Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 Originally posted by knuckle_game+Mar 17 2005, 02:51 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (knuckle_game - Mar 17 2005, 02:51 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Herbivore@Mar 17 2005, 09:28 AM it's kind of hard to read Quoted post I think it's a response to the IRA recently killing this guy who mouthed off to one of them in a bar. The guys sisters have had a vendetta against the IRA ever since and are calling for people who know anything about the case to speak up. I assume the graffitti is the IRA advising people to keep thier mouths shut. Quoted post [/b] Sorry about the size, photo bucket resizes them So have you got "romantic" notions of the IRA? The guy didnt even mouth off to them, he spilt someones drink, apologised and offered to replace it, and was murdered. At the end of the day, the IRA are still a terrorist orgainisation and they have close links to the Sinn Fein political party. The IRA arent romantic, they're just a bunch of hooligans who think they can go around bullying people and abuse their power (okay well, not a million miles away from real politicans) How their politicians have a foot to stand on when they openly admit links to an organised crime/terrorist syndicate is beyond me. In fact what you cant read is that one of the Sinn Fein Candidates, a 23 year old female, that's running for election, was actually in that bar drinking that night. Apparently "she saw nothing" That just takes the piss. Just to add, i am English and i have no affliliation to either side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knuckle_game Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 "The guy didnt even mouth off to them, he spilt someones drink, apologised and offered to replace it, and was murdered." Thats sounds about like what I read. For that I say fuck the people who did it, thats some uncalled for bully shit. "At the end of the day, the IRA are still a terrorist orgainisation and they have close links to the Sinn Fein political party" "How their politicians have a foot to stand on when they openly admit links to an organised crime/terrorist syndicate is beyond me." I don't know about that terrorist shit. "Terrorist" is generally a term right wingers and politicians use as an excuse to explain why they should be allowed to do all sorts of terrible shit in the name of national security.It doesnt seem to have too much of a usefull meaning anymore. And I really don't care about the "crime syndicate" label either. If I had a fondness for law enforcement I wouldn't be on a web site dedicated to "vandalism". I'd be happy to say that the IRA have done bogus shit for a noble cause and seem to have a little too much time on thier hands lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 The IRA is the result of the longest running colonization in history. Much of the IRAs support comes from the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Leader Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 I haven't heard of this. Anyone have a link with the whole story? One where I wont need glasses by the end of the first paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptheknife Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by villain@Mar 17 2005, 06:11 PM The IRA is the result of the longest running colonization in history. Much of the IRAs support comes from the USA. Quoted post I hope that is not meant to be supporting the IRA. Do you actually have any idea how many people were killed by IRA bombs in the UK? Far more than you can imagine, a whole country was in fear over IRA bomb threats, For fuck sake I had bomb drills at school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 What? I'm just stating the facts, I'm not supporting the IRA. It is the result of the UKs colonization of Ireland.... longest running colony in history. Did you not expect a highly organized resistence movement to develop? What do you expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Æ° Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Terrorist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porque Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 ...the only difference between terrorist and revolutionary is what side you're on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skroez Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Anti-terrorism police have warned that dissident Irish republicans may be planning attacks in Britain in the run-up to a general election. Looks like they might start bombing here again.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4366699.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost citizen Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 well, in the face of an unaknowledged genocide the Brits committed in Ireland I'd say its all fair game. You move into a nation and take it's land by force and export the food supply leaving it's indigenous people to starve to death in shacks I would say you are gonna have some pissed off movements. Also consider the IRA was peaceful until the Bloody Sunday massacre where they were pushed into the wall and decide to start pushing back. The Brits, America, Spain, ect are all vicious imperials and you can't get upset at the groups which rise to fight them because they have nothing left but the fight for their home and freedom. I dont know anything about that particular incident but sounds lame ass and could discredit them greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodice_ripper Posted March 26, 2005 Share Posted March 26, 2005 Originally posted by villain@Mar 19 2005, 10:05 PM What? I'm just stating the facts, I'm not supporting the IRA. It is the result of the UKs colonization of Ireland.... longest running colony in history. Did you not expect a highly organized resistence movement to develop? What do you expect? Quoted post Shut up. Back when this "colonization" happened, there was no "Ireland". The US was colonized far more recently than Ireland - do you deserve to be shot? All you bleating fuck heads in this thread have no clue as to what the Ra are actually about now. They aren't liberating army - they are drug dealing, child murdering scum - with more involvement in serious organised crime than anything else. Hush up - you are just parading your ignorance. "well, in the face of an unaknowledged genocide the Brits committed in Ireland I'd say its all fair game." how does this tripe justify murdering a man for spilling a pint? moron. And before you start spouting shite at me you might want to bear in mind I LIVE in the Republic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodice_ripper Posted March 26, 2005 Share Posted March 26, 2005 http://breaking.tcm.ie/2005/03/09/story192868.html http://www.victims.org.uk/24-09-03a.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/northern...news/272909.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted March 26, 2005 Share Posted March 26, 2005 I was never condoning what happened. I was just stating the conditions for the IRAs existance. It's not like radical organizations are going to be funded through charities. Well maybe through fronts, but I'm well aware that organized crime is a big part of it. I don't know what you mean by saying I deserve to be shot. Part of my family are natives, another part slaves, and another part johnny come latelys from canada. But I wasn't surprised when 9-11 happened. Sorry if I touched off a sore spot. I'm not meaning any offense here. I have nothing further to say about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodice_ripper Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 they stand for nothing. there is nothing that justifies their existance, any more than their loyalist counterparts. fuck them, and anyone who would support them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S@T@N Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Those imaginary testicles you don't have really do make you want to argue a lot, don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Originally posted by droptheknife+Mar 19 2005, 10:02 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (droptheknife - Mar 19 2005, 10:02 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-villain@Mar 17 2005, 06:11 PM The IRA is the result of the longest running colonization in history. Much of the IRAs support comes from the USA. Quoted post I hope that is not meant to be supporting the IRA. Do you actually have any idea how many people were killed by IRA bombs in the UK? Far more than you can imagine, a whole country was in fear over IRA bomb threats, For fuck sake I had bomb drills at school. Quoted post [/b] Blame that one on your government. ENGLAND OUT OF IRERLAND NOW!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Originally posted by bodice_ripper@Mar 27 2005, 01:52 AM they stand for nothing. there is nothing that justifies their existance, any more than their loyalist counterparts. fuck them, and anyone who would support them... Quoted post YOUR AN IDIOT. FUCK YOU. :hatred: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Originally posted by porque@Mar 20 2005, 05:16 AM ...the only difference between terrorist and revolutionary is what side you're on... Quoted post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 This is a lot of animosity over something very few of us can do anything about. Read "THE IRA, 1968-2000, Analysis of a Secret Army" by J. Bowyer Bell, published by Frank Cass Publishers. http://www.frankcass.com Then let's discuss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 someone killing a guy over a beer isn't an IRA action, it's the action of a guy who may or may not have something to do with the IRA. if you're friend killed an iraqi guy over some dumb shit, would you turn him in to the iraqi's? even if you thought he was wrong? i don't give a shit about the day to day politics or what the IRA does to get their money, if the english would leave ireland, the problem would be over. of course there will still be drugs and crime, but it won't have any guise of nobility to hide behind and it can be dealt with as it is. i will never fault a group of people for wanting control over their land. i don't have to agree with their means, but i also know how frustrating it is when no one cares whats happening to you. i don't know shit about the IRA, but i know i hate israel, so as long as the IRA sides with the palestinians, i'll side with the IRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIZZaBcfly Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 the McCartney sisters are media whores who need to stop blah-ing on about how 'innocent' there brother was...he was in a provo area drinking in a provo pub! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodice_ripper Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Originally posted by SF1+Mar 31 2005, 11:22 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SF1 - Mar 31 2005, 11:22 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> ENGLAND OUT OF IRERLAND NOW!!! Quoted post [/b] <!--QuoteBegin-SF1, YOUR AN IDIOT. FUCK YOU. Quoted post :haha: ah bless. I'm sure England would love to hand over the north - it's just bleeding cash. but the Republic would not be able to afford the drain either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dojafx Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Originally posted by seeking@Apr 1 2005, 07:19 PM someone killing a guy over a beer isn't an IRA action, it's the action of a guy who may or may not have something to do with the IRA. if you're friend killed an iraqi guy over some dumb shit, would you turn him in to the iraqi's? even if you thought he was wrong? i don't give a shit about the day to day politics or what the IRA does to get their money, if the english would leave ireland, the problem would be over. of course there will still be drugs and crime, but it won't have any guise of nobility to hide behind and it can be dealt with as it is. i will never fault a group of people for wanting control over their land. i don't have to agree with their means, but i also know how frustrating it is when no one cares whats happening to you. i don't know shit about the IRA, but i know i hate israel, so as long as the IRA sides with the palestinians, i'll side with the IRA. Quoted post The IRA also offered to execute the people responsible to the victims family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodice_ripper Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Originally posted by dojafx@Apr 4 2005, 08:36 PM The IRA also offered to execute the people responsible to the victims family Quoted post that will be because their political wing's leader, Gerry Adams, had his approval rating drop from 51% to less than 30% inside a week. They are desparate. Some revolutionaries - ready to sacrifice their own in order to mop up a mess in the media... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8onus Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Originally posted by bodice_ripper@Mar 26 2005, 04:31 PM And before you start spouting shite at me you might want to bear in mind I LIVE in the Republic.... Quoted post aaah, so thats why you keep callin cats "lad" :haha: i plead ignorance to all of this, i have no idea what it's all about and feel guilty seeing as how i am of irish decent....i shall read on my brothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetrain Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Originally posted by KaBar2@Apr 1 2005, 01:50 PM This is a lot of animosity over something very few of us can do anything about. Read "THE IRA, 1968-2000, Analysis of a Secret Army" by J. Bowyer Bell, published by Frank Cass Publishers. http://www.frankcass.com Then let's discuss it. Quoted post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOx Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Its pathetic how americans who like to think they have ties to ireland, through ancestry, support and romantise the IRA. Its shameful how ignorant most of the people in this thread are. its not a matter of "england out of ireland" Northern Ireland is part of the UK like scotland is. Ireland is Ireland. The conflict lies in the north where irish catholics are the minority and were sided against by protestant irish loyalists (loyal to england) Countless irish were shipped and immigrated to australia. I have a relative who was hung for leading the easter uprising but we dont run around claiming allegience to IRA. Americans fund terrorists and dye rivers green on st patricks day to uphold some image of being victimised 7 generations ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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