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Free Heroin Program

Discussion in 'News' started by GoD5eNt, Mar 16, 2005.

  1. GoD5eNt

    GoD5eNt New Jack

    Joined: Mar 5, 2005 Messages: 60 Likes Received: 0
    VANCOUVER, British Columbia — Just over the United States northwest border, addicts will soon be able to get their fix from the Canadian government in the form of free heroin (search) administered by nurses and doctors on the taxpayer's dime.

    "They're using heroin. They'll continue to use heroin. What we're trying to do is prevent them from getting something irreversible like HIV, hep [hepatitis] C and overdose death,” said Dr. Martin Schechter, the director of the heroin program.

    Vancouver is the first city to take part in the North American Opiate Medication Initiative, which plans to enroll 470 participants at three sites in Canada. The Toronto and Montreal sites are expected to begin recruiting candidates this spring.

    Vancouver Police Chief Jamie Graham (search) is among supporters who say the heroin giveaway will let junkies shoot up without having to resort to theft or prostitution to buy their drugs. Breaking that cycle of crime, they argue, is the first step toward turning an addict's life around.

    “I’m not a medical expert, this is not my field. I'm an expert in public safety," Graham said. "And if this will help reduce the crime rate — I'm all for it."

    In the program all addicts have to do to get their fix is show up three times a day seven days a week.

    Junkies offered different views of the program to FOX News. Some think it's the government's way of killing them, while others say they can't wait for the free dope. But none of them thought it would eventually get them clean.

    "I think it would lower the crime rate. Nobody's gonna be robbing each other. Nobody's going to be sick enough to rob each other. All be taken care of. Free dope, woo-hoo,” said heroin addict Olivia Edgars.

    Recovered addict Chuck Swesey - who's been clean 20 years - says the program smacks of government drug pushing. He says he knows how he would've ended under a program like this: "I'd be dead ... or I'd be in a jail or an institution."

    The $8 million Canadian program is patterned after similar efforts in Europe

    Do you think it's right to give Junkies more heroin in an inclosed enviroment or is it just a step backwards toward treatment?

  2. frate busta

    frate busta New Jack

    Joined: Jan 10, 2005 Messages: 84 Likes Received: 0
    its been said, in some circumstances people are going to do what they are going to do whateer the consequence, much like graff, or speeding in an car. these crackheads are gonna be shooting the herion and pushing the rock on the streets anyway, at least now desparity wont be such a factor,, i can see the crime rate decreasing for sure, good idea vancouver
  3. Herbivore

    Herbivore Senior Member

    Joined: Oct 12, 2004 Messages: 1,431 Likes Received: 1
    this won't help anything
  4. GoD5eNt

    GoD5eNt New Jack

    Joined: Mar 5, 2005 Messages: 60 Likes Received: 0
    I think it will definetely lower crime rate but lookit, if you had a sister or a brother who was a scag junkie would you want him/her to get more heroin in a safe enviroment, or would you want them in a treatment center?
  5. xwibxonex

    xwibxonex New Jack

    Joined: Feb 18, 2002 Messages: 3 Likes Received: 1
    "these crackheads are gonna be shooting the herion..."

    hahaha... okay smartguy.. the reason they're making the clinics first of all, is probably so they can be in a room with the nurse or doctor have it administered to them under supervision.. theyre wont be a small suilding and a bunch of addicts lined up waiting for a bag to be given to them.. oh yeah.. and crack and heroin are two waaay different things buddy. well.. unless you mix em up for a superball :p

    anyway yeah it sounds like a very good idea.. I can't beleive people could even think of rejecting any form of different ideas when it comes to rehab and decriminalization of street drugs whereas we've had the same policies for so long as we watch crime and poverty go up... shit why not try everything!
  6. CACashRefund

    CACashRefund 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Oct 8, 2004 Messages: 14,171 Likes Received: 272
    I agree we should try new shit, iwe have had the same situation for decades and shit isnt going to change by itself, so i agree with new measures to try to curb the problem that comes with heroin addiction.
  7. <KEY3>

    <KEY3> Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 24, 2004 Messages: 6,878 Likes Received: 2
    my city has a plan in the work to give out 'crack kits'.

    it's a bag with a pipe, screens, a disposable lip guard and chapstick.
    oh.. plus some info on quitting the stuff.

    apparently the crackheads have been burning their lips and HepC has spread to like 90% of the street users.

  8. fermentor666

    fermentor666 Veteran Member

    Joined: Sep 27, 2003 Messages: 8,152 Likes Received: 15
    This is crazy. I'd be psyched about it if I was a heroin user, but I'm not sure what the goal of this program is. I mean are they just going to give them heroin or are they going to try and implement some sort of program to get them off it at the same time? Like counsling, therapy, methadone. Because if you're just giving them heroin, you might as well kill these people. Heroin is an extremely addictive drug and if these people are getting government grade heroin on a regular basis, their tolerance is going to go through the roof and they will definitly start using more and more. Which in turn, will run their pockets dry, which in turn will make some of them become criminals to support their habit.

    One thing's for sure, this shit would never go over in the states.
  9. The Hipster

    The Hipster Member

    Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Messages: 872 Likes Received: 0
    Good call I think the uk should follow suite.
    Junkies need to control their addiction thought means and substances if the government had control the drugs industry they could regulate it to prevent problems in society
  10. ODS-1

    ODS-1 Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 21, 2003 Messages: 3,575 Likes Received: 0
    Why should taxpayers support some low lifes habit? Fuck all those heroin dependant people. Now taxpayers have to pay for stuff for them to inject into their dick?
  11. !@#$%

    [email protected]#$% Moderator Crew

    Joined: Oct 1, 2002 Messages: 18,517 Likes Received: 623
    ^As opposed to shelling out for their ER visits and jail time, and the futile fucking drug war???
    hell fuckin yes.

    besides, we can ALL SEE that THE DRUG WAR IS NOT WORKING.

    at least they are trying something else!
  12. The Hipster

    The Hipster Member

    Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Messages: 872 Likes Received: 0
    I fell not just heroin but most should be taxed and regulated it would be a good thing. It would clean up the most impoverished communities destroyed by drug dealers despite money being pumped in to this comminute to solve their problems peoples lives all ways seem to be dragged down my crack houses and prostitution due to people dependant and force to take such mergers to feed there habits and as a result crime in general would domically decrease as there would no longer be the manipulation of drug dependant people witch as infect would eliminate huge proportions of, pimping, burglary , muggings ,money laundering and general gang activity.This in turn would help and improve taxes, as public services would not be stretched to the limits dealing with the problems caused by the negativity of illegal uncontrolled substances.
  13. GnomeToys

    GnomeToys Elite Member

    Joined: Jun 24, 2003 Messages: 2,616 Likes Received: 4
    I'm going to go up to Canada, I've always wanted to try heroin once.

    No, but seriously, the war on drugs doesn't work, and even if this doesn't work at least it was a step in the right direction. None of these drugs are expensive to produce, if governments started manufacturing and selling their own for cheap we'd see a massive downfall in overall criminal problems in a matter of months.
  14. GoD5eNt

    GoD5eNt New Jack

    Joined: Mar 5, 2005 Messages: 60 Likes Received: 0
    Excuse this particular article, yes they will be giving them counseling among other things. They will also try to get them on methodone programs but at the same time it is a study and results have shown that ofcourse it reduces crime and helps stop spread of HIV/AIDS and other diseases because they are not out on the streets sharing needles and trying to jack people to get their next fix. Heroin is not like other drugs though, it's not like alcohol... You can't say well if this works why not just give alcohol to alky's? Cause the effects are just different. People don't do the things they would do for heroin for other drugs. Crack and Cocaine are different also because you don't inject these drugs, so they don't implement the risk of infection quite as high as Heroin.
  15. postmodernism

    postmodernism Junior Member

    Joined: Feb 27, 2005 Messages: 135 Likes Received: 0
    I say thumbs up to Canada. This will never fly in the States.. Not in a million years. Our drug policys do more harm than good.