slightly Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 I have acourt date coming up, and while im going to try and get out of this speeding ticket, I heard this modus operondi from a freind of a freind to avoid points on your record and am considering giving it a go: When giving the payment, write a check for five, or ten dollars more than what is being asked. Now, this dude told me they will return the rest of your money in the mail with another check and supposedly if you dont cash the check they returned to you, then all the transactions of the court arent complete. And the only way points can be added to your record are after all transactions are complete. can i verify this transactions thing? no, certainly not. but im hoping somebody here will be able to hook up the knowledge. -slightly broke and thinking about bombing the insurance company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Dee Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 If you believe in yourself, then anything's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosoner Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 not true, iv spoken to a few law enforcment personal about it and been told everytime that its not a way out of getting the points added. so at least in nevada it stands as an untrue rumor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 Originally posted by Evil Dee If you believe in yourself, then anything's possible. and you know that's quality advice.... i believe i can fly, i believe i can touch the sky.....ahahahahahhaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_gooch Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 always plead not guility and always request a supporting deposition when you return the ticket with your plea. (lawyer or not) if they do not send the supporting deposition with in 30 days, the charges will be dismissed. i would get a lawyer for any moving violation. i lost my license and it isn't worth it. pay the lawyer, get off scott free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Æ° Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 All you need to do is explain to them that laws don't even exist and that nothing's real if you ask why enough times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly Posted October 21, 2003 Author Share Posted October 21, 2003 whats supporting deposition? i know my ass is guilty im just gonna ask for them to be a little less harsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClueTwo Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 Originally posted by Æ° All you need to do is explain to them that laws don't even exist and that nothing's real if you ask why enough times. Hands-Down.... This is guy defintely the next Best Advice, 12oz Awards 2003.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimusPrime Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 Originally posted by slightly I have acourt date coming up, and while im going to try and get out of this speeding ticket, I heard this modus operondi from a freind of a freind to avoid points on your record and am considering giving it a go: When giving the payment, write a check for five, or ten dollars more than what is being asked. Now, this dude told me they will return the rest of your money in the mail with another check and supposedly if you dont cash the check they returned to you, then all the transactions of the court arent complete. And the only way points can be added to your record are after all transactions are complete. can i verify this transactions thing? no, certainly not. but im hoping somebody here will be able to hook up the knowledge. -slightly broke and thinking about bombing the insurance company there is no way to get out of a ticket and or points unless you pay it. lets put it this way, if you DO put the 10 down on your ticket, you just admitted your guilt, and the guilty must pay. if you don't pay your ticket, you haven't admitted your guilt but you still must pay. unpaid tickets go to the secretary of state, and the secretary of state subsequently suspends your license. basically, if you pay your ticket, your insurance might go up a bit, but if you don't you could pay for it for years down the road(in my state, the penalty for OWLS(operating with license suspended)is 93 days in jail, and/or a $500 fine). so lets say you dont pay your ticket. in 6 months you get a letter in the mail stating that your license is on suspension. you figure "well fuck, they havent caught me yet" 2 weeks later your calling your homie to get you out of the bing on a $100-$300 bond because you got hemmed driving suspended. consequently, he cant raise the cash, you miss work, and when you finally DO get out, you've lost your cushy art store or what-have-you gig and have to secure employment in a non-existent job market. okay, now, let's say you do pay it. depending on how many points you have already, your insurance might go up a tad, but you get to keep your gig and your friends wont be sweating you for the cash you owe them for bailin your ass out (your boys gotta pay rent too). -your loveable autobot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightly Posted October 21, 2003 Author Share Posted October 21, 2003 im not putting ten down, i would have been adding on ten extra, but i dont think it will work anyways. and yes i know paying it is unavoidable i was just hoping the points fluke might work. in reality i knew it wouldnt i was kidding myslef thinking such foolishness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimusPrime Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 you've learned your lesson then. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_gooch Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 nah i disagree with you prime. i lost my license a few years ago. and i currently still have points on my license. whenever i get a speeding ticket or moving violation (which i make sure is not too often) i get a lawyer (this is ever since i lost the license) not once have i gotten points or shit like that since. he gets it reduced to some bullshit, i pay a small fine, then pay hime like 200 or whatever. yeah it's costly, but losing my license is more costly. a good lawyer never fails. a supporting deposition is just the officers account sent to you/your attorney for your/their verification. if you look on the back of your ticket (in ny at least) it will say do you request a ....... yes no. always check yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusOnCoke Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 I'm on my third current suspension right now. The last time I was driving arround with it suspended I racked up 8 more points and two 12 hour probabtions for alcohol. Fuck the system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarzAbove Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 Crooked Cops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad_AAA Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 i gotta try that maybe it works now i gotta go speed down my street :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicidebombr Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 i agree with Evil_Dee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 well .there is one way to definately dead the ticket , the points and all. The hope and prayer that this happened to you .That is if the officer that wrote the ticket made a written error such as mispelling of your name, addy or any other mistake on the ticket. Or if the ticket is illedgible. You will have your case dismissed due to a technicality . Believe it . At least in this state .I have been around that block a few times on different occasions for piss,beer and disorderly fines. examine your copy of the infraction carefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
causinpanic Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 i hate the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daze One Million Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 some, not all, of you guys must suck real bad at driving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 Originally posted by the_gooch i would get a lawyer for any moving violation. ding....ding....ding....we have a winner. I always do this. If you think the price is too much...find out when your last ticket was...subtract that from your most recent ticket. Over a year? That breaks down to less than a dollar a day to drive like a maniac. Thats how I justify my tickets. I don't suck at driving...I just have a blatant disregard for stuff like speed limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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