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fingerprinting visitors

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by ubejinxed, Jan 5, 2004.

  1. ubejinxed

    ubejinxed Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 12, 2001 Messages: 7,543 Likes Received: 3
    i don't know if anyone posted this yet, but i find this outrageous..

    two articles i've seen thus far on it.


    ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Up to 28 million visitors to the United States now have to stop for photographs and fingerprinting under a new government program launched Monday and intended to make it harder for terrorists to enter the country.

    Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said the new US-VISIT program applies to any visitors who must have a visa to enter the United States.

    By October, all visitors will be required to have a machine-readable passport or some other method of biometric identification, such as fingerprints or retina scans.


    RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (AP) -- Brazilian federal police said Thursday they were not ready to begin fingerprinting all U.S. citizens entering Brazil in line with a judge's sudden order to launch the program, which matches the treatment Brazilians get when the enter the United States.

    On Monday, Julier Sebastiao da Silva, a federal judge in Mato Grosso state, ordered the move in response to new regulations requiring citizens from 27 countries -- including Brazil -- to be fingerprinted and photographed upon entering the United States as an anti-terrorism measure.

    more ... Outside the United States, there has been a backlash as well.

    In reaction to the U.S. policy, Brazil last week began fingerprinting and photographing American visitors arriving at Sao Paulo's airport. Brazil's Foreign Ministry has also requested that Brazilians be removed from the U.S. list.

    Ridge said that "if the Brazilian government thinks it's in their interests (to fingerprint and photograph Americans), so be it."

    "It's not two standards, one for the United States and one for the rest of the world," he said.
  2. ubejinxed

    ubejinxed Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 12, 2001 Messages: 7,543 Likes Received: 3
    oh yah>

    Citizens from more than two dozen countries, mostly in Europe, aren't required to carry a visa if their visit is less than 90 days. Visitors from those countries are exempt.

    Visitors from exempt countries who are working in the United States, however, require a work visa, and therefore must leave their fingerprints and photographs with U.S. authorities.

    "We want visitors from abroad to continue to come to the United States, but we also want to secure our borders," Ridge said.

    - yah right are people going to come visit, it's becoming so hostile. this is going to kill our tourism industry and create even more resentment internationally. i wouldn't go to a country that treated me like a criminal b4 even entering.
  3. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    this actually doesnt really bother me all that much. nor would it bother me if another country expected me to get finger printed upon entry. i had to jump through flaming hoops to go to vietnam, and just sort of chalked it up as being 'how it goes'.
    as long as israel is on the list of those who need to get printed, i think there are alot more important, nefarious things to focus on.
  4. CinchedWaist

    CinchedWaist Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 11, 2003 Messages: 2,691 Likes Received: 1
    ugh, I'm so sick of all these so-called anti-terrorism measures.
    The part that really freaks me out is the retina scans.

    I was watching this segment on 20/20 once where they were saying that in the near future people walking down the street would have their retinas scanned by cameras to see if they were wanted criminals or not.

    and to think, theres so much more stuff (conspiracies and whatnot) that we don't know about.
  5. ubejinxed

    ubejinxed Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 12, 2001 Messages: 7,543 Likes Received: 3

    that was in some movie... i forgot the name..hmm

    yah i agree, i hope that all of these 'protective measures' do not go much farther, i'm already not comfortable with the level of invasiveness
  6. SteveAustin

    SteveAustin Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 12, 2002 Messages: 7,042 Likes Received: 2
    How do the retina scans work? Does it scan through the pupil to the back of the eyeball? Would color or painted contacts affect them in any way?
  7. 26SidedCube

    26SidedCube Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 18, 2003 Messages: 6,590 Likes Received: 10
    Big government is over.
    From now on, instead of
    you will be left
    in the Market place
    to fend for yourselves
    claw for yourselves
    stab for yourselves
    guard for yourselves
    what little money, savings, dignity and shelter
    you have left.

    After your jobs are downsized and
    exported to Mexico,
    tennishoes made by slaves in camps in Indonesia,
    computer jobs sent across the ocean to Indonesia,
    you will be next unless you bow down to the gar boots
    and throw your benefits away
    your raises away
    and this is all you have to look forward to
    forever and ever and ever.

    As more and more benefits are slashed,
    no more tax and spend welfare state
    the windfall from tax cuts for the rich
    is more and more people
    out in the cold on the street!
    Begging for money.
    And when that doesn't work,
    robbing people
    car jacking
    home invasion
    everyone taught
    that life is so cheap
    there's nothing to look forward to
    except what you can score
    and smoke and get higher.

    Ending welfare as we know it
    means third world crime
    as we know it.
    So why is it all these
    young people today misbehave
    misbehave, misbehave?

    Don't they appreciate the world we've build for them?
    Crappy jobs,
    dog eat dog.
    No compassion in the marketplace.
    If you like school
    you'll love work.
    Instead they ditch work
    and hang out on the street:
    young culture
    young hooligans
    on tv anyway
    and in the newspaper.
    More and more people
    will poor in the street
    as their rents go up
    and job opportunities go down.
    So we have to keep them down
    before they rise up and burn our
    house of cards to the ground.

    It's just the cost of doing business
    in third world countries where we keep the peasants down.
    We have to live in armed compounds with armed guards,
    play tennis at gunpoint.

    A different route to work behind bullet proof glass each day,
    but hey, the more the hoards hate you the more
    status you have.
    Why not do this with the whole world?
    with GAT treaties, downsizing but what about those god damned
    hooligans in the street?
    We stole their future.
    It's all their fault!
    We must lock them up,
    but there is no room in the jails
    so the best way is to sweep them away,
    make every home a prison today.
    Curfew, Curfew
    Who cares how much our leaders are corupt, as long as they are tough
    on crime?
    Keep them away!
    No longer unauthorized activity.

    You can't leave the home without an electronic ankle bracelet.
    Young offenders must be tagged and watched at all times.
    Tag their parents with bracelets too if they don't obey!
    For that matter tag them at work and make them stay.

    The main enemy
    terrorist threat
    is your own children.
    Think about it:
    The music they listen to
    that tells them the world is bad.
    It's the songs that are the problem
    not the violence outside.
    Keep them locked up!
    Keep them in Curfew!
    Put them away!
    Don't let them out!
    We are tougher on crime
    before the election.
    We want a national law
    establishing children's bedtimes.
    Bedtime Patrol
    We'll check up on you.
    Bedtime Patrol
    Make sure that your bracelet is on.
    The nanny state,
    to reach down your pants and check and see if you've been
    moistening yourself with any unauthorized substance without permission.
    Tag them!
    Curfew them!
    Keep them down!
    Keep them at home!
    To school
    to rent a video on the way home
    and stay home
    just like at work.
    Do not gather after dark.
    It's such a family oriented word,
    a much more acceptable smiling soft word,
    a much more palletable concept
    than Marshall Law.
    Put your bracelets on.
    You are safer when you are watched.
    Don't go outside.
    You will set the alarm off!
    and ever and evvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrr
  8. Smart

    Smart Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 14, 2000 Messages: 17,017 Likes Received: 177
    Tom Ridge told me it's gonna protect our borders.... inside of little buildings... no mention of the actual geographic borders that are still easily infiltrated.

    Anyway, one thing is sure, those fucking terrorists won't be vacationing here goddammit!
  9. ubejinxed

    ubejinxed Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 12, 2001 Messages: 7,543 Likes Received: 3
    seriously, what about the canadian terrorist tourists?

    someone could get a canadian passport and come on over...

    this is so silly.

    and i'm mad i'm going to have to be fingerprinted to go to brazil... vindictive mofos
  10. 26SidedCube

    26SidedCube Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 18, 2003 Messages: 6,590 Likes Received: 10
    Borders outside of the U.S. are pretty nuts.. or at least I noticed Amsterdam and Germany have no where near the security we do; even prior to 9/11.

    I've snuck in and out of Amsterdam International customs without having shit checked. There's these weird booths you go through when you're leaving the airport and then there's these weird giant sliding glass doors... well, I walked around the booths and opened the door with my hands. Did the same thing to re-enter.
  11. capitalstPIG

    capitalstPIG New Jack

    Joined: Jan 5, 2004 Messages: 25 Likes Received: 0
    why do you care? it's called quid pro quo.
    sorry it interferes with your brazilian man fetish, sweetie.
  12. GamblersGrin

    GamblersGrin Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 24, 2003 Messages: 3,243 Likes Received: 16
    the movie is minority report. i just caught it on the other day.
  13. This is so stupid. What are they gonna do with all these prints and photos anyway?
    Americas biggest thread is America itself, the enemy is gonna come from within.
    Keep importing more guns...
  14. capitalstPIG

    capitalstPIG New Jack

    Joined: Jan 5, 2004 Messages: 25 Likes Received: 0
    ^ it's "threat", smart one, and we don't import guns, we make 'em right here in the good ole US of A.

    it's a very lucrative business.
  15. 26SidedCube

    26SidedCube Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 18, 2003 Messages: 6,590 Likes Received: 10
    :nope: :rolleyes:

    Hahaha.. silly faggot.