1. Welcome to the 12ozProphet Forum...
    You are currently logged out and viewing our forum as a guest which only allows limited access to our discussions, photos and other forum features. If you are a 12ozProphet Member please login to get the full experience.

    If you are not a 12ozProphet Member, please take a moment to register to gain full access to our website and all of its features. As a 12ozProphet Member you will be able to post comments, start discussions, communicate privately with other members and access members-only content. Registration is fast, simple and free, so join today and be a part of the largest and longest running Graffiti, Art, Style & Culture forum online.

    Please note, if you are a 12ozProphet Member and are locked out of your account, you can recover your account using the 'lost password' link in the login form. If you no longer have access to the email you registered with, please email us at info@12ozprophet.com and we'll help you recover your account. Welcome to the 12ozProphet Forum (and don't forget to follow @12ozprophet in Instagram)!

Fighting and getting heated after getting gone over..

Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by Clever Name, Feb 26, 2002.

  1. Clever Name

    Clever Name 12oz Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2002
    Messages:
    189

    Fighting and getting heated after getting gone over..

    Discussion started by Clever Name - Feb 26, 2002

    ** NOTE: This has been edited with the new title of "Why Fighting Over Graff Is Stupid But Sometimes Has To Be Done Because Dumb Fucks Will Always Be Themselves. **
    ---------------------------------------

    I'll probably piss people off with this thread, but that's always fun on here.

    Going over someone else's graf is the EXACT equivalent of that piece of property being hit in the first place, only when this happens it's the writers who are turning into the concerned citizens and getting all 'up in arms' over graf being done.
    Where's the logic here?

    Admiration for a nice piece or spot and letting it ride forever is dope but wanting to kill someone because they disprespected your graf --something that in itself is disrespectful in the first place -- only turns you into a hypocrite (or a dumb thug, which is an equal waste of human flesh and oxygen).

    Battles can be fun until people actually take them personally and think their "writer rights" have been violated or some shit. Comedy!

    Obvious response to this thread: "Whatever asshole, if someone goes over my shit they're gettin fucked up, plain and simple." <--- DUMBASS ALERT !

    Quit fighting over this shit you morons -- it's fucking neanderthal behavior.
     
    Clever Name - Rank: 12oz Junior Member - Messages:
    189
    - Joined:
    Jan 29, 2002
  2. Remi Martin

    Remi Martin New Jack

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2001
    Messages:
    96

    Remi Martin - Replied Feb 26, 2002

    theres a simple solution....DONT GO OVER OTHER PEOPLES SHIT...to be more specific...if its a illegal shot and theres shit allready there..wait till it gets buffed or go find your own spot...if its a peicing spot and you dont know the person or its not your spot...go find your own spot...
    following these examples should exempt you from all drama involved in going over people..........
     
    Remi Martin - Rank: New Jack - Messages:
    96
    - Joined:
    Jun 3, 2001
  3. colt45oe800

    colt45oe800 12oz Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2002
    Messages:
    828

    colt45oe800 - Replied Feb 26, 2002

    i was walking home today and looking at all the blank walls. so your telling me that you had to go over something i did because i have such a nice spot while there was fifty feet to the left of mine. that just doesn't make sense. if i put the effort to get that clean spot first. then its mine till it gets buffed. and if you do go over it ill take it back the next night and go after your shit till the beef is settled... whether its via squashing it or fighting for it although squashing it is prefered. peace
     
    colt45oe800 - Rank: 12oz Member - Messages:
    828
    - Joined:
    Feb 15, 2002
  4. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE 12oz Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2001
    Messages:
    7,577

    ASER1NE - Replied Feb 26, 2002

    thats bull ish , if its already had graff on b4 , then fuck em and go over whoever you want , but if someone hits a wall 1st , then ya its theres for awhile ...
     
    ASER1NE - Rank: 12oz Veteran Member - Messages:
    7,577
    - Joined:
    Oct 15, 2001
  5. AREANKAY

    AREANKAY 12oz Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2001
    Messages:
    1,183

    AREANKAY - Replied Feb 26, 2002

    if you write and u get all up in arms and are ready to crush skulls when someone goes over your stuff it just means you only been writting for about a year or two im not saying im some old school writter but i been writting for some years now and i really donnt give a fuck about any of it neither does anyone else yeh maybe youll be like fuck his and go diss there shit or whatever but im not gonna go fight them
     
    AREANKAY - Rank: 12oz Senior Member - Messages:
    1,183
    - Joined:
    Oct 9, 2001
  6. CAPS

    CAPS 12oz Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2001
    Messages:
    658

    CAPS - Replied Feb 26, 2002

    ......lame......

    It all goes along with respect. If you respect another writer then you DON'T go over his shit. It's an old school belief that you can have or don't. I don't go over peoples shit unless it's a legal wall and even then I am picky about what I go over. If I can do better, I'll buff. You need to respect the fact that they are there to create same as you. When you go over someone just to over-up a spot it's weak. Just my opinion. GO FIND YOUR OWN SPOT. Don't disrespect or you might get split up and releived of your goods. Just be careful.

    CAPS...... who cares.
     
    CAPS - Rank: 12oz Member - Messages:
    658
    - Joined:
    Oct 23, 2001
  7. Clever Name

    Clever Name 12oz Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2002
    Messages:
    189

    Clever Name - Replied Feb 27, 2002

    Nope, I'm not talking about the politics of WHY people go over each other, I'm just saying it's fucking retarded when somebody gets dissed or whatever then moans about it or "vows revenge." Gimme a fucking break.

    "Admiration for a nice piece or spot and letting it ride forever is dope " -- me.

    I'd probably be pissed if a good spot I did got gone over for no apparent reason, but oh well, that's what you get yourself into as soon as you decide to put the paint on the wall. It'd be cool if heads would just battle for real. People talk a good game but rarely does anybody keep shit STRICTLY on walls, they wanna be Mobb Deep. If somebody battled it out with me I'd shake their hand when it was over and thank them for the run.
     
    Clever Name - Rank: 12oz Junior Member - Messages:
    189
    - Joined:
    Jan 29, 2002
  8. inkjunkie34

    inkjunkie34 12oz Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2001
    Messages:
    1,614

    inkjunkie34 - Replied Feb 27, 2002

    just take it out on some rich kid
     
    inkjunkie34 - Rank: 12oz Senior Member - Messages:
    1,614
    - Joined:
    Jun 9, 2001
  9. inkjunkie34

    inkjunkie34 12oz Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2001
    Messages:
    1,614

    inkjunkie34 - Replied Feb 27, 2002

    there is actually a kid that i'm gonna beat the shit out of...he didnt cover me...he said "fuck........" so ..i'm gonna kick his teeth in....but thats what he deserves for talkin shit
     
    inkjunkie34 - Rank: 12oz Senior Member - Messages:
    1,614
    - Joined:
    Jun 9, 2001
  10. Clever Name

    Clever Name 12oz Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2002
    Messages:
    189

    Clever Name - Replied Feb 27, 2002

    May your life be fulfilling.
     
    Clever Name - Rank: 12oz Junior Member - Messages:
    189
    - Joined:
    Jan 29, 2002
  11. Cracked Ass

    Cracked Ass 12oz Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    7,898

    Cracked Ass - Replied Feb 27, 2002

    I've found the best solution to these disses is to paint more. Do more spots, redo the dissed spot, pump out freights, king another line or town or state, to the point where nobody who hates you can keep up.
     
    Cracked Ass - Rank: 12oz Veteran Member - Messages:
    7,898
    - Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
  12. Remi Martin

    Remi Martin New Jack

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2001
    Messages:
    96

    Remi Martin - Replied Feb 27, 2002

    where i live if clever name went over someone and tried to explain that since graff. is all about disrespecting other peoples property you shouldnt mind if someone goes over you, chances are A: he would get smacked, B: he would get smacked and kicked C:he would get maced smacked kicked and robbed D: he would get smacked kicked robbed maced and dissed E: he would get smacked kicked robbed maced knocked out and have his shit get dissed for a long time, or if hes lucky he would just look like a chump. Regardless, his point of view is flawed...Respect has a lot to do with graffiti writing. going over people you dont know is risky...cause you dont know them..generally its cool if you burn what you go over or have good cause, you still run the risk...and out of personal advice i sincerely recomend not using the logic stated previously. Writers out here risk alot to write so if you go over there ups with out good cause its generally reason for a serious response...granted situations vary but dont push your luck...stay off other peoples shit and burn their peices in peicing spots if you go over them and just to be nice leave a note showing respect. and if you know your not going to burn it go find your own spot, that will get you good karma in general in my opinion
     
    Remi Martin - Rank: New Jack - Messages:
    96
    - Joined:
    Jun 3, 2001
  13. willy.wonka

    willy.wonka Guest

    willy.wonka - Replied Feb 27, 2002

    damn dude,i was just recently capped..a nice freestyle piece...for a bunch of bullshit i got myself into with my fans from 12oz....i should of just said nothing....these fucks wrote fuck you all over my shit and told me to learn to respect and stop sidebusting....i didnt get it...who was i sidebusting?i did not know....it was my first piece since i came back to my homeland....
    so i went with my homie and capped the guys who we thought had some involvement...now i guess we are at war....im too old for this...these guys think ima go fist to fist....hahahhahahha....im a evil fighter..i believe in everything,but guns and knifes.
    it sucks really....i dont need to go to jail for some little toys doing,but these guys want a war.my boys want it,i dont...looks like im gonna bop some heads this summer...
     
  14. Clogged Cans

    Clogged Cans New Jack

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2002
    Messages:
    18

    Clogged Cans - Replied Feb 27, 2002

    Here is one way to look at things... Lets say a bank robber staels madd loot, and then comes some other crook, and he sticks you up for the loot he just jacked... How do you think that story will end? We all know what kinda shit we are doing, and at times we see the opportunity to "hate" on someone for rocking a dope spot, now in these cases, we can either understand that he that covers someone elses shit, is good enough to battle the person he just went over, or he knows the kat is cool like dat, its all good, but if that person that covers shit thinks he can just get up where ever he pleases just cuz he had the nerve to do so, then he should at least know the possiblity of what he may encounter, the one thing i do hate, is when it turns into the gang lifestyle, now we as a GraffCore, should all know how to handle beef, we either set up a battle, or if needed, we can keep it personal box when the wall thing just aint enough. But if you on some gangsta shit, will why dont you stay on the gangsta side and only fuck with true gangstas and quit fuckin with the garff scene! But then again, thats just how i feel.:D
     
    Clogged Cans - Rank: New Jack - Messages:
    18
    - Joined:
    Feb 21, 2002
  15. vynlone

    vynlone 12oz Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2001
    Messages:
    783

    vynlone - Replied Feb 27, 2002

    Its pretty simple really.

    If you go over something good with something crap (illegal or legal) then you are gonna get slapped or crossed out.

    Don't go over people (throwups/tags/insults) you don't have "real" beef with.When I say real I mean real world beef not just some shit from 12oz.

    If you are going to go over something DO SOMETHING BETTER!.


    Its not like all writers are rich kids in some huge fuckin house trying to be bad.Be careful or you wil get your teeth knocked out.

    vynls one rom
     
    vynlone - Rank: 12oz Member - Messages:
    783
    - Joined:
    Dec 4, 2001