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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by KING BLING, Nov 23, 2003.


    KING BLING Guest

    This covers all acts of civil disobedience...and I love the lack of interviews of anyone actually involved with these groups. The video taping arrests thing is made to sound like an act of intimidation...ahem.


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The FBI has collected information about tactics and training used by anti-war protesters in an effort to blunt potential violence by extremist elements, a federal law enforcement official said Sunday.

    The FBI warned of tactics used by such groups in a weekly bulletin circulated to 15,000 law enforcement agencies around the country last month before large demonstrations in Washington and San Francisco to protest the Iraq war.

    The bulletin discussed tactics, training and organization of groups, some of which have Web sites that refer to training camps to teach activities like disrupting traffic and law enforcement during large public events, the official said.

    It described activist strategies like videotaping arrests to intimidate police and using the Internet to recruit and raise funds.

    The memorandum was first reported by The New York Times in its Sunday editions, and the contents were confirmed to Reuters by a federal law enforcement official.

    "It contains information that we gleaned through investigation and through other means," the official said.

    "In the experiences that law enforcement agencies have had in other cities such as Seattle, Washington D.C., San Francisco, where there have been large scale protests, where there was a potential for violent activity, that information was then passed on ... to law enforcement agencies for future planning," the official said.

    Sen. Edward Kennedy, a Massachusetts Democrat, said he was concerned about reports that the FBI was monitoring anti-war protesters.

    "We have the stories going on this morning where they're using the FBI to look into demonstrations in order to find out who is demonstrating and getting into their background. That reminds me to the old Nixon times and the enemies list," he said on ABC's "This Week." White House officials in the administration of former President Richard Nixon kept a list of political enemies.

    Kennedy said the Bush administration had gone to "extraordinary lengths" to attack lawmakers who question the White House policy on Iraq and that was a "fundamental flaw" of the administration. "How could we be fighting abroad to defend our freedoms and diminishing those freedoms here at home?"

    The federal law enforcement official said the FBI was only interested in individuals and groups who plotted violence.

    "Our interest is not in individuals or groups expressing their constitutional right to protest. It is only those individuals or groups that would be involved in either conspiring, or actively involved in violent or criminal activity in support of a particular cause," the official said.

    Civil rights groups and legal scholars quoted by The New York Times expressed concern that monitoring protesters could signal a return to the abuses of the 1960s and 1970s, when J. Edgar Hoover was FBI director and agents routinely spied on political protesters including Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

    The resulting restrictions on FBI investigations of political activities were relaxed last year when Attorney General John Ashcroft, citing the September 11, 2001 attacks, issued guidelines giving agents authority to attend political rallies, mosques and any other public events.
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    Æ° Senior Member

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    KING BLING Guest

    Ah, now I remember why I don't come here anymore...

    I'll give you the fact that politics has becoming overwhelming and in being so I don't blame people for apathy - I'm pretty much there myself. However they are tracking people who don't agree with the direction of our country (and the government is forseeably taking action) under the guise of some distorted terrorism threat. They don't use that word but look at it. Anyways I won't struggle with you, arguing is pretty much pointless go back to sleep. When you wake up it will all be over...

    AGENT SICKS New Jack

    Joined: Oct 26, 2003 Messages: 95 Likes Received: 0
    im allways afraid that when i post what i write on message boards someone will pull my ip and trace that shit and find me. but then i remember that my thousands of hours of illegal pornography burned to my hard drive would be a larger risk anyway and there is no way i would get rid of that for my life. afterall, what is life if not the fine art of pornography, and pornography viewing.
  5. rubbish heap

    rubbish heap Senior Member

    Joined: Mar 18, 2003 Messages: 1,563 Likes Received: 2
    people... this is why you listen to what the mods have to say, and don't drop specific information like dates, places and names...
  6. Coffie Crave

    Coffie Crave Senior Member

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    wow and i thought the cops had nothing better to do
  7. silent_j5

    silent_j5 Member

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    i saw some abortion protesters on the way to the mall, that shits so stupid get over it we kill babies
  8. metallix

    metallix Elite Member

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  9. metallix

    metallix Elite Member

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    the world is watching


  11. Bloc131

    Bloc131 Member

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    thanks for the article bling. i learned a lot. don't let all the dorks who say 'i dont care blah blah' deter you.
  12. Gunm

    Gunm Banned

    Joined: Aug 31, 2003 Messages: 12,427 Likes Received: 1
    You must now die...you know too much.

    The truth is out there Mulder.
  13. old*824

    old*824 Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 8, 2003 Messages: 1,362 Likes Received: 0
    my names confidential....i liike kitty cats named after my cat and pit bulls that live together and got eachothers back.

    i like guns to.

    but i prefer cats and dogs.