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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Ski Mask, Apr 17, 2004.

  1. Ski Mask

    Ski Mask 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Apr 11, 2000 Messages: 11,114 Likes Received: 209
    read and discus...

    Women's jeans inspire new trend: 'Fashioncore'
    Fad grows among hardcore music scene
    By Natalie Naquin, Revelry Writer
    March 15, 2004

    It is not uncommon for fashion trends to reflect the style of music a person listens to. One of these trends -- males wearing female jeans -- not only evinces the type of music these men listen to, but it is also a characteristic of an entire fashion scene.

    "Fashioncore" is the term that describes those who wear girl jeans -- at least that is what they call it.

    "It's just a scene thing," said Brandon Sheridan, who is a self-proclaimed fashioncore scenester. "You've got the black hair over one eye, the white belt, the girl pants, the converse -- it's the 'scene' thing to do."

    "The scene" refers to the national hardcore music scene.

    Hardcore, as defined by Travis Leblanc, an English freshman, is a type of music with a couple of distinctions from metal. There is a chugging beat, which you dance to, "crazy" tunings with many dissonant chords, and a screamer, a singer who can "growl and shout his head off."

    Bands such as Norma Jean, Through the Eyes of the Dead, and Reflux are considered hardcore.

    Leblanc broke down the definition of fashioncore.

    "There are two divisions of hardcore," Leblanc said. "Fashioncore and tough-guy hardcore. Fashioncore is more image-oriented. Same music [as tough-guy hardcore], different look."

    The look he describes is common among students. Walking around the quad, it is easy to spot someone wearing girl jeans, a "super-tight hoodie," and a bandana in their back pocket.
    Ryan Warden

    Also common among fashioncore style is a white belt to go with the female pants, although this is usually only popular among those who like grindcore.

    "Grindcore is another style of music," Leblanc said. "It's really out there, spastic, crazy -- people who like grind usually wear the belt."

    Most of the girl-pant wearing few claim how comfortable girl pants are as opposed to men's jeans.

    "They're so comfortable and I feel so good in them," said Danny Farber, a 20-year-old girl pants enthusiast at The Furnace music venue. "They show my figure off better. Guy pants just don't do it for me."

    Sheridan agrees with Warden, although there is one stipulation.

    "They're actually more comfortable than guy pants -- as long as you wear tighty-whities," he said.

    The reasoning behind guys wearing girl pants could be because of the feeling of belonging to a group, and recognizing those who share the same musical tastes.

    "It's predominately a hardcore thing," Leblanc said. "Nine people out of 10, if you see them wearing girl pants, they like hardcore. You're walking down the street, you see a guy wearing girl pants, you know what it's all about. They're into hardcore."

    Julie Reboul, a philosophy freshman, enjoys spotting guys wearing girl pants.

    "Boys in girl pants make me blush," she said. "I love it. I think it's the hottest thing in the whole world."

    The main reason for girl pants, coincidentally, is the comfort factor.

    "They're a lot more comfortable," Leblanc said. "Especially the stretch kind. It doesn't make sense to me why they don't make guy pants the same. They get a little tight in the crotch every now and then, but that's to be expected."
  2. Fuck Ya'll

    Fuck Ya'll Member

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Messages: 601 Likes Received: 0
    Men in women's jeans


    tighty whities


    long hair over their eyes



    No wonder I haven't been attracted to anyone since my speech professor... guys my age are turning gay.
  3. Ski Mask

    Ski Mask 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Apr 11, 2000 Messages: 11,114 Likes Received: 209
    see. I'm baffled as well. surrounded by scenesters...but the term hardcore has lost all meaning. To me, hardcore shows are supposed to be filled with sweaty ugly kids wearing jerseys and shit. am I that out of touch?
  4. Fuck Ya'll

    Fuck Ya'll Member

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Messages: 601 Likes Received: 0
    Also, what the hell is grindcore?
  5. T.T Boy

    T.T Boy Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 18, 2001 Messages: 21,803 Likes Received: 41
    i thought it was all about scarves in the club?

    hardcore was silly from the get go, now its even more silly.
  6. PalestineOne

    PalestineOne Senior Member

    Joined: Mar 25, 2004 Messages: 1,177 Likes Received: 0
    whats this threas on again?
    oh, and the porn business is failing!!
  7. writers-blok

    writers-blok New Jack

    Joined: Jun 7, 2003 Messages: 82 Likes Received: 0
    what a sad state of affairs. .
  8. thehavenots

    thehavenots Junior Member

    Joined: May 13, 2002 Messages: 188 Likes Received: 0
    this is exactly why i hate hardcore so much now, stupid kids in girl pants (it's really ridiculous around here) that think there's only two "types" of hardcore.

    fuck it.
  9. rumble

    rumble New Jack

    Joined: Mar 13, 2004 Messages: 36 Likes Received: 0
    no! not again not on this message board...
    those kids are fucks that have no clue of

    a) theirselves

    B) more importantly, hardcore

    they need to quit life, go away... hide or die or something because they are disgusting and fucking stupid. straight up dumb in the brain. they don't know what the fuck they are doing. Wearing certain clothes doesn't make you shit. it makes you look stupid and if you talk about it it makes you deserve a skull fracture.... these kids are a joke, just like emo, just like AIDS and just like the bacon flavoured candy.

    and there is no such thing as "tough guy hardcore" because it is HARDCORE and nothing else. fashioncore doesn't exist.

    hardcore bands:
    everybody gets hurt
    agnostic front
    punch your face

    some bands that are not hardcore:
    norma's jeans
    modern talking

    PS grindcore has nothing to do with white belts worn by faggots. grindcore is fast paced metal/punk I never really figured it out but it was there way before those dipshits in white belts were even born. so basically what we have here is rich little white kids that have wild imagination and no sense of real life reality

    DR+DELUSION Member

    Joined: Apr 6, 2004 Messages: 472 Likes Received: 3
    dyed black hair = LAME

    long model hair = COOL

    white belts = LAME

    girl jeans = COOL

    going to shows with a bandana over your face = LAME

    doing crime with a bandana over your face = COOL

    wearing scarves to shows = LAME

    taking scarves from neiman marcus = COOL

    being straight edge = LAME

    "HARDCORE" = LAME. unless it's "digital."
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  12. villain

    villain Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 12, 2002 Messages: 5,190 Likes Received: 2
    I've worn girl pants before but only because
    A) I didn't know they were
    B) I didn't much care
    C) I was poor as dirt and got them at a thrift store
    D) They were in decent condition.

    But this... this is just silly.... someone please bring punk back... metal even....
  13. adderall

    adderall Elite Member

    Joined: Jun 10, 2003 Messages: 2,921 Likes Received: 1
    hahah hardcores fuckin weak

    unless its porno
  14. MrChupacabra

    MrChupacabra 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Oct 10, 2001 Messages: 10,940 Likes Received: 683
    I'm not gonna lie, i do wear girls jeans quite a bit, but the main reason is because they fit. I'm thin and short, and don't like baggy clothes too much, so if i find a pair of jeans at a thrift store or somewhere for cheap and they fit well, i'll get them regardless of if they're mens or womens. I'm definitely not one of the kids whose wearing spandexish ballhugger jeans, a white belt and has dyed black hair.
  15. Vanity

    Vanity Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 11, 2000 Messages: 7,673 Likes Received: 6