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ethical question: CAN I BUFF ??

Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by --zeSto--, May 28, 2002.

  1. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    let me ask you an ethical question...
    (I expect biased opinions, but I want to know what you think.)

    I'm in a new apartment above a store.
    My door is covered in tags, many of which are mine.
    And there's others of writers I know and respect.
    The Door is Green and it's right in between a
    Flower stand and a Fruit Market. The place is beautiful.
    I want to paint the door back to flat green.

    Is it ethical to do a 'buff'?
    The landlord would do it, but he doesn't really care about shit.
    The 2nd appartment doesn't give a damn (summer sub-let).

    I want this place to be as nice as possible,
    but because of my personal involvement in graffitit,
    I'd feel bad about buffing some of the other people.
    It's not like it's anything special... just tags, no rips.

    so what should I do?
  2. trickone

    trickone New Jack

    Joined: May 24, 2001 Messages: 1 Likes Received: 0
    if you feel that buffing the door would make the area in which you live a nicer place to be, by all means do it. you said that alot of the tags on the door are yours, and other writers that you know so i think that since you know them they should understand and not have a problem with it. there only tags, it's not a burner on the side of your building you're buffing, just a few scribbles done by you and your boys on a door
  3. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    well yes... good points

    but these are some of the top names in the Country (of Canada).
    But I supose that if the entire door gets painted it's ok.
    I wouldn't be good if I left mine up.

    And I'd make a point to keep the door clean.
    That's the hard part.
  4. bigpoppa.k

    bigpoppa.k Elite Member

    Joined: May 2, 2001 Messages: 3,152 Likes Received: 18
    you bastard don't you buff me!! haha.. jokes..
    i've done it. don't worry about it. the thing to remember though is that once its painted, its a nice new clean surface to throw some tags on, and it will get hit again.
  5. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    hahaha !!
    I dont think you're on it.
    But I know that you know some of the names that are.
    It's hard to paint over the bricklayers.

    I'm going to have to keep a bucket of paint handy and cover it weekly.
  6. space

    space Member

    Joined: May 17, 2002 Messages: 320 Likes Received: 0
    bomb the rest of yer apartment so it matches yer door.
  7. Are2

    Are2 Senior Member

    Joined: Aug 5, 2000 Messages: 1,973 Likes Received: 0
    buff it...

    you will probably have an amusing experience getting the buff's side of the story...
    the door will look nice and clean for a day or twoo..

    it will get hit
    and again
    and somemore

    then you'll buff it again
    and it will get hit
    and again
    and again

    ..then you'll buff it again..

    sense a pattern here?
  8. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    here's my advantage....

    studies have shown that Green is the safest graffiti colour.
    People just dont like hitting dark green. Maybe because it's a natural colour,
    or because black doesn't show up so well.

    And the door is hard to see in the summer because of the fruit stand
    on one side and the flower stand on the other.

    and then there's the 'broken window senario' we all know and love.

    so unless someone makes a point of being on my door
    (which could happen), I should stay clean.
  9. Jetz

    Jetz New Jack

    Joined: Mar 8, 2002 Messages: 9 Likes Received: 0
    take a flix of the door.
  10. sitka/xxxxx

    sitka/xxxxx New Jack

    Joined: May 2, 2002 Messages: 54 Likes Received: 0

  11. fiberoptical

    fiberoptical New Jack

    Joined: Apr 26, 2001 Messages: 31 Likes Received: 0
    is there a secret knock for it too?

    contradiction is that you say you want the place "nice" and want to eradicate the "ugly" aspect, and that is the writing..some of which you had done....scratching my head at this one...

    Now there is an understanding of how business owners feel.

    devils advocate day.
  12. qwertyuiop

    qwertyuiop Member

    Joined: Apr 16, 2001 Messages: 500 Likes Received: 0
    not true, in my town the mailboxes are dark green, and they get crushed just the same with paint pens and such.
  13. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    not entirely true...
    Busines owners have to clean it or risk looking business.
    I'm not in business, so I dont feel an economic pressure to clean it.
    I want to do it because the place was a bit of a 'flop' before.
    The doors were never locked, garbage never went out,
    noise complaints were issued, shit got wrecked...

    I dont mind the tags on the door,
    in fact... I bet that I'm in the Top 5 Doors of all them fourm members.
    It's one of those "out with the old..." situations.
    I want a nice, new, clean, home.
  14. jus

    jus Guest

    ahh ha i got it turn your door around,its impossible but hey it would have worked
  15. WITS

    WITS Member

    Joined: Apr 17, 2002 Messages: 366 Likes Received: 0
    Just paint it.. It's your door.