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Discussion in 'Metal Heads' started by jeff123456, Jan 21, 2002.

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  1. jeff123456

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  2. Boring Bastard

    Boring Bastard Elite Member

    Joined: Feb 1, 2001 Messages: 3,784 Likes Received: 1
    You're kidding right??
    The workers figure out that people are painting trains there!!
  3. Cracked Ass

    Cracked Ass Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 24, 2001 Messages: 7,898 Likes Received: 47
    I'm in the mood to give a straight answer to what appears to many to be a dumb question.
    Freights roll around a lot. Most people see graffiti on trains and don't wonder where it was done. Or they assume it was done somewhere else and just rolled in. This is true of railroad workers and rail cops - UNLESS YOU LEAVE EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY. Such as your empty paint cans, right next to the painted train. Or your bombing of stationary objects - walls, "dead" cars or cabooses that never move, other RR equipment, the bridge at one end of the yard, etc. If you do those things, then workers and cops know that trains get painted RIGHT THERE, and gee whiz, their next step might be to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, like raid the spot, patrol it more often, install surveillance cameras, etc.
    You might argue that workers would have to be dumb not to know a certain spot was getting painted, even if nobody leaves cans behind as evidence. The spot gets crushed so often that they'd have to notice the sheer number of pieces, and maybe even the smell of recent work sometimes. Here's the rest of the story: many workers don't care. They DO care about slipping and falling on empty paint cans while engaged in the dangerous job of jogging alongside moving trains. So if you treat them with disrespect by making their job more dangerous, they might report the fact that the spot gets painted to the rail police or town police. But if you're courteous enough to take your trash with you, many workers won't report anything - ESPECIALLY if you avoid painting over the car numbers and load limits, which they need for their job.
    If you take your empty cans with you, and throw them away somewhere else, it will stay chill longer to paint at that spot. Most writers want that.
    I might add that if you're from a big city, and the only freight spots you know are littered with empty cans, and the walls nearby are crushed with graff, and you get chased out of the spot every other night by cops, obviously it's too late to avoid attracting attention, so this rule becomes unimportant. But most places people paint aren't like that, so they want to keep it on the down low for as long as possible.
  4. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 15, 2001 Messages: 7,578 Likes Received: 3
  5. sectorTVA

    sectorTVA Senior Member

    Joined: Jul 8, 2000 Messages: 1,272 Likes Received: 1
    cracked has it down, a worker here tells me that it isnt his job to hunt down writers, but it pisses him off when hes running along side a train at night to release a brake and he steps on a can, bad things can happen, sprained ankles, head injuries and death if he manages to fall onto the tracks and underneath the train hes working on. if a worker dies because of some ignorant fucks inability to pick up after himself, there is definately going to be a whole new world of "heat" coming to the particular yard...every now and then i go into the local yard and bring a trash bag, i pick up all the cans i can see lying around, and unfortunately there are alot from people who have no idea about the dangers of being around trains and the possibilty of heating the yard out. the workers are cool with me because i help them out in that way, plus i talk with them about my life and how things are going and what im up to sans writing...in turn they tell me about theyre lives and a bond grows between me and the workers...so yes, it bothers me when people leave cans in yards, its not smart at all and has absolutely no benifits, please note, i dont advise talking with workers at all unless you are also a fan of sorts and can act maturely around adults with manners and shit...the way you dress around workers too also reflects their image of you, so before some new comer to freights goes and talks with yard workers because of what i wrote keep that in mind...the yard where i live is particularlly small with only a single 12 hour shift of 3 workers...i know them all very well...in larger yards they might just kick you out, or you might have to deal with a bull....
  6. socks

    socks Member

    Joined: Oct 8, 2001 Messages: 503 Likes Received: 0
    not to mention the fact that these cans are toxic waste. the idea of just throwing them into some bush or leaving them piled around a train yard is rediculous. there are ways to dispose of harmfull materials responcibly. i dont want to agrivate anybody by saying so but littering really is childish.

    CPT.BASS Guest

    yo dog.... you should keep your cans at the spot so you can see how many cans you can go through in a year.....and then when you are done you can make a giant piramid out of your empty cans.....that would be sweet......
  8. NATO

    NATO Guest

    why cant people do a little research before starting threads like this. come on.
  9. TEE_rase_war

    TEE_rase_war Senior Member

    Joined: Dec 6, 2001 Messages: 1,717 Likes Received: 1
    so think before you write ....

    if you leave a messy yard it brings the heat down...
  10. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 15, 2001 Messages: 7,578 Likes Received: 3
    ya werd up to sector , i was just in the yard tontie and all the cans had been cleaned up into a shopping cart

    and by the way , these cans are not " toxic waste " , theyre aluminum.
  11. baLLeRplAyA

    baLLeRplAyA Member

    Joined: Nov 19, 2001 Messages: 954 Likes Received: 2
    my question would be how the hell did we all get suckered into answering such a stupid question........
  12. me IS cool

    me IS cool Guest

    sector and cracked got it on lock down!

    kid, Stay off the trains 'till your ready. :eek:
  13. SpunkyTheKat

    SpunkyTheKat New Jack

    Joined: Jan 20, 2002 Messages: 60 Likes Received: 0
    stupit bastard...

    uh duh, why not leave cans around when your done painting a train..lets see, if u dont know the answer to that question then graff isnt something you need to know about
  14. Average White Railfan

    Average White Railfan Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 2, 2001 Messages: 1,120 Likes Received: 0
    i was thinkin the same thing
  15. HAL

    HAL Guest

    You're right. Metals like aluminum undergo a process called oxidization, and they decompose. In the example of the paint can, when this decomposes, the contents will find themselves free to leak into the ground. In the case of spray paint, we're talking about chemicals like xylene, toluene, acetone, and oher such toxic solvents. Throwing paint products on the ground to decompose when they contain harmful chemicals is otherwise known as toxic waste. Place these near an aquifer or residential areas with wells, and you create a health problem. Not to mention that a piece of rusted metal puncturing your shoe isn't that good for our constitution, either. Tetanus shots suck ass.
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