Guest dephect Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 question any that know. If you have a vhs video camera, and have recorded/editied it to your liking on a video, how can you put music and titles into/onto the video. What do you do and how. Like Dirty Hands, how did they put music into the clips and have titles saying what the different sections were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vinyl junkie Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 you can do it on yer computer, although the equipment and software is a little spendy... or youcould get an old editing station (one unit with 2 vcr's and audio inputs) but those are kinda hard to find... volunteer at yer local cable access station and you could do it all for free tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dephect Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 hahaha fuck so its pretty complecated i thought u just needed some wire connection from the vcr into the computer. AH shit. What the fucks and audio input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl junkie Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 the simple stations are just 2 vcrs and some plugs in the back- plugs for sound... hook up a cd player or a tape deck or a mic or whatever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 I like the public-access TV option. They have a school. Go to the little three-evenings-a-week school, make friends with the teacher, pretty soon you are running a public-access show on TV and editing your shit for music, titles and all that. It can get pretty complicated, there are a bunch of possible choices with video. VHS, Super-VHS, Hi8, DV (digital video) etc. If you have a university in your city, go check out the film making program. Colleges always have the fucking awesome editing equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dephect Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 a mate of mine made his own home movie of him and some friends getting drunk and doing crazy shit (thank god for those drunken moments) but all he put on it were some titles he said it was really easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 ahhh.... (as many of you know by know.. this question is all mine!) There's 2 ways to edit your video: Linear as in playing real time off tapes Non-Linear getting the footage onto a computer. so to break it down.... (for the low-cost home video) Unless you have some crazy high end tape machine (vcr), You wont be able to split the audio and the video. You'll need to seperate the tracks in order to lay music underneath the picture. You can 'hotwire' some audio inputs, but it all gets very grity. The alternative is to get some basic editing software for your PC. As per software... AvidXpressDV is hot shit and FinalCutPro is cold poop. Either way, you'll need a DV camera with a firewire input unless you buy some analog-to-digital converter. so what do I suggest? Find a local cable station that offers courses and equipment. Or some kind of hippy-arts-group that also has the gear. Hell... most highschools have some basic video gear these days. good luck! (ps. I am a professional editor, so I'm not blowing hot air.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 Another ghetto way of laying music over your video is to get two VCR's, one to play your footage and one to record it. Instead of connecting all of the RCA cables, only connect the video cable (yellow), and leave the audio cables disconnected. Then hook up your CD player's line-out to the recording VCR's line-in, and practice hitting record/play on the VCR's in sync with the music you want. It's tricky, it's ghetto as fuck (lowers the quality by a generation), but it's something in the meanwhile. For titles, you're pretty fucked unless you get your hands on software and a digitizer like Zesto mentioned. Beer, El Mamerro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 yeah, and get on aim to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 You can 'hotwire' some audio inputs, but it all gets very grity. You can easily set it up to record from a CD player (read mamerro's post), but to actually edit with any accuracy, not a chance. The best process to make the 'hotwire' work... 1). Do all tape to tape video edits with sound. 2). Watch the video playback and make an audio mis that fits (like making a mixtape) 3). Record the final video and 1 track of the sync sound to another vcr while.... 4). recording the audio mix onto the other track of the final tape. it's super ghetto, but that's the only way to split audio tracks in a vhs-vhs set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BROWNer Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 zesto, how did you become a 'professional editor'?? you took some film courses? pay any good???????? i need a new job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-DubleSkilZ Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 Zesto - i just got final cut pro - u saying that program aint good? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 Originally posted by El Mamerro Another ghetto way of laying music over your video is to get two VCR's, one to play your footage and one to record it. Instead of connecting all of the RCA cables, only connect the video cable (yellow), and leave the audio cables disconnected. Then hook up your CD player's line-out to the recording VCR's line-in, and practice hitting record/play on the VCR's in sync with the music you want. It's tricky, it's ghetto as fuck (lowers the quality by a generation), but it's something in the meanwhile. For titles, you're pretty fucked unless you get your hands on software and a digitizer like Zesto mentioned. yeah, this is the method some friends and I used years ago to make a short movie. Its been over a decade and I still laugh my ass off every time I watch that stupid movie. We've been talking about making another sequel to it and doing it up right. We have access to some serious editing and filming equipment now. We got as far as making a trailer...I'll have to see if I can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisPantalonesEstaEnfuega Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 ZESTO!!!!! What would win in a first fight, AvidXpressDV or Adobe Premiere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 Avid would kick Adobe's ass clear out of the picture with the first swing. I still use Adobe though, cause I've been really familiarized wth it. "Rendering" previews has me going up the walls though... it doesn't have any realtime effecting. FinalCut Pro is not bad at all, it's actually pretty good... but it's a strange program whose workings are not as intuitive as other editors. I personally didn't dig it much when I tried it. There's a bunch of pros and cons to every program, in the end it usually boils down to personal preference. Beer, El Mamerro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 jeeze... my last post didn't show up ! browner - I did film school, but actually got the job by slaving away as an assistant editor and tape op. Plus good luck. So FinalCut vs. AvidXpressDV vs. Premier .... really at the home level it's all about what you can afford and what basic features you need. If your doing compositing in AEFX and just want to sequence it, go for premiere. The Adobe Pro Bundle is a very stong force and is almost limitless in applications. Fianl Cut is great for ease of use and the Quicktime connection makes it perfectfor web and cd-delivery. Now for AvidXpress... This is a tool for editors. The Avid can be customized to work the way you want it to be. The workflow can not be touched by ANY other editing system at any price range. Avid is the Jesus Potato of digital editing. Plus you can use it to sequence renders from Maya or 3Dmax. hell... anything really. And it goes directly to the online session. FinalCut makes bad EDL's. Premiers cant do real finishing. AvidXpress was made for it. so there's my rant. any more questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 Speaking of AEFX, zesto, do you by any chance have that Pro Bundle around? I need to get my hands on the plugins and keyframe assistants it comes with... Beer, El Mamerro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 mamerro... get on aim for the hook-ups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 Zesto, holla back when you can... I cant seem to get any of these to work, not even the Pro bundle .AEX's... Beer, A sad Mamerro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-DubleSkilZ Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 Zesto: just curious cause im a tape op: Where do you live(dont need exact locations relax) cause i cant see much editing work going on unless your in L.A. or NY And how should I go about learning Final Cut. Just get in there and mess around or should i buy a book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 tony - I live in Hollywood North (of the border) -- if that makes any sence. Just get a manual for finalcut. There's no real good books on the theory of editing. You just need to learn the equipment and work from there. mamerro... damn ninja! that's rough! maybe they got fuckered though the transfer! I'll see if I can fish up some mac versions. sorry to get you so hyped about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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