don't bother: politics, lies, within this thread

so, anyone catch ol' 60Minutes last night(sunday)???

 

they had on charles lewis(director of the nonpartisan Centre for Public Integrity), who apparently has been referred to in abundance as 'the paul revere of our time'..

anyhow..

 

Lewis told 60 Minutes' Steve Kroft, despite the rhetoric of the Iraqi invasion being a "coalition," only U.S. firms were allowed to bid on reconstruction contracts.

 

Halliburton is one of the most troubling cases. Even before the first shots were fired in Iraq, the Pentagon had secretly awarded_a subsidiary_of Dick Cheney's former company_a two-year, no-bid contract to put out oil well fires and to handle other unspecified duties involving war damage to the country’s petroleum industry. It is worth up to $7 billion.

 

But_it's not just Halliburton. San Francisco-based Bechtel_also stands to gain hundreds of millions in the_aftermath of the Iraqi war. The_company and its employees, as Lewis' group has documented, have been_one_of the_biggest political givers in the general contracting industry.

 

The company and its workers contributed at least $277,050 to federal candidates and party committees in the last election cycle, about 57 percent to Democrats and 43 percent to Republicans, the center found.

 

Bechtel gave at least $166,000 to national Republican Party committees, center figures show.

 

The conflicts of interest don't end there. Throughout the 1980's, Bechtel_engaged and attempted to engage Saddam Hussein's brutal regime in a wide variety of business deals. This, despite the fact it was well-known he was using weapons of mass desctruction against his enemies, and possibly his own people. The San Francisco Chronicle reported in January that Bechtel and at least one other U.S. company sold Iraq technology that helped build up its military in the 1980's. And as GNN has reported (see "Crude Vision"), Bechtel_tried for years to convince Saddam Hussein to allow_it to build a pipeline from Iraq to the Aqaba Gulf in Jordan.

 

The following is the transcript of last night's 60 Minutes episode "All in the Family." Hopefully, more reporting like this will wake America up to who really stands to gain by America's military actions:

 

"All in the Family" 60 Minutes, April 27, 2003

 

(CBS) After dropping more than 28,000 bombs on Iraq, the United States has now begun the business of rebuilding the country.

 

And it promises to be quite a business. With at least $60 billion to be spent over the next three years, the Iraqi people won't be the only ones benefiting. The companies that land the biggest contracts to do the work will cash in big-time.

 

Given all the taxpayer money involved, you might think the process for awarding those contracts would be open and competitive. Well, so far, it has been none of the above. And the early winners in the sweepstakes to rebuild Iraq have one thing in common: lots of very close friends in very high places, correspondent Steve Kroft reports.

 

One is Halliburton, the Houston-based energy services and construction giant whose former CEO, Dick Cheney, is now vice president of the United States.

 

Even before the first shots were fired in Iraq, the Pentagon had secretly awarded Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown & Root a two-year, no-bid contract to put out oil well fires and to handle other unspecified duties involving war damage to the country’s petroleum industry. It is worth up to $7 billion.

 

But Robert Andersen, chief counsel for the Army Corps of Engineers, says that oil field damage was much less than anticipated and Halliburton will end up collecting only a small fraction of that $7 billion. But he can't say how small a fraction or exactly what the contract covers because the mission and the contract are considered classified information.

 

Under normal circumstances, the Army Corps of Engineers would have been required to put the oil fire contract out for competitive bidding. But in times of emergency, when national security is involved, the government is allowed to bypass normal procedures and award contracts to a single company, without competition.

 

And that's exactly what happened with Halliburton.

 

“We are the only company in the United States that had the kind of systems in place, people in place, contracts in place, to do that kind of thing,” says Chuck Dominy, Halliburton’s vice president for government affairs and its chief lobbyist on Capitol Hill.

 

He says the Pentagon came to Halliburton because the company already had an existing contract with the Army to provide logistical support to U.S. troops all over the world.

 

“Let me put a face on Halliburton. It's one of the world's largest energy services companies, and it has a strong engineering and construction arm that goes with that” says Dominy.

 

“You'll find us in 120 countries. We've got 83,000 people on our payroll, and we're involved in a ton of different things for a lot of wonderful clients worldwide.”

 

“They had assets prepositioned,” says Anderson. “They had capability to reach out and get sub-contractors to do the various types of work that might be required in a hostile situation.”

 

“The procurement of this particular contract was done by career civil servants, and I know that it's a perception that those at the very highest levels of the administration, Democrat and Republican, get involved in procurement issues. It can happen. But for the very most part, the procurement system is designed to keep those judgments with the career public servants.”

 

But is political influence not unknown in the process? In this particular case, Anderson says, it was legally justified and prudent.

 

But not everyone thought it was prudent. Bob Grace is president of GSM Consulting, a small company in Amarillo, Texas, that has fought oil well fires all over the world. Grace worked for the Kuwait government after the first Gulf War and was in charge of firefighting strategy for the huge Bergan Oil Field, which had more than 300 fires. Last September, when it looked like there might be another Gulf war and more oil well fires, he and a lot of his friends in the industry began contacting the Pentagon and their congressmen.

 

“All we were trying to find out was, who do we present our credentials to,” says Grace. “We just want to be able to go to somebody and say, ‘Hey, here's who we are, and here's what we've done, and here's what we do.’”

 

“They basically told us that there wasn't going to be any oil well fires.” Grace showed 60 Minutes a letter from the Department of Defense saying: "The department is aware of a broad range of well firefighting capabilities and techniques available. However, we believe it is too early to speculate what might happen in the event that war breaks out in the region."

 

It was dated Dec. 30, 2002, more than a month after the Army Corps of Engineers began talking to Halliburton about putting out oil well fires in Iraq.

 

“You just feel like you're beating your head against the wall,” says Grace. However, Andersen says the Pentagon had a very good reason for putting out that message.

 

“The mission at that time was classified, and what we were doing to assess the possible damage and to prepare for it was classified,” says Andersen. “Communications with the public had to be made with that in mind.”

 

“I can accept confidentiality in terms of war plans and all that. But to have secrecy about Saddam Hussein blowing up oil wells, to me, is stupid,” says Grace. “I mean the guy's blown up a thousand of them. So why would that be a revelation to anybody?”

 

But Grace says the whole point of competitive bidding is to save the taxpayers money. He believes they are getting a raw deal. “From what I’ve read in the papers, they're charging $50,000 a day for a five-man team. I know there are guys that are equally as well-qualified as the guys that are over there that'll do it for half that.”

 

Grace and his friends are no match for Halliburton when it comes to landing government business. Last year alone, Halliburton and its Brown & Root subsidiary delivered $1.3 billion worth of services to the U.S. government.

 

Much of it was for work the U.S. military used to do itself.

 

“You help build base camps. You provide goods, laundry, power, sewage, all the kinds of things that keep an army in place in a field operation,” says Dominy.

 

“Young soldiers have said to me, ‘If I go to war, I want to go to war with Brown & Root.’"

 

And they have, in places like Afghanistan, Rwanda, Somalia, Kosovo and now Iraq.

 

“It's a sweetheart contract,” says Charles Lewis, executive director of the Center For Public Integrity, a non-profit organization that investigates corruption and abuse of power by government and corporations. “There's no other word for it.”

 

Lewis says the trend towards privatizing the military began during the first Bush administration when Dick Cheney was secretary of defense. In 1992, the Pentagon, under Cheney, commissioned the Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root to do a classified study on whether it was a good idea to have private contractors do more of the military's work.

 

“Of course, they said it's a terrific idea, and over the next eight years, Kellogg, Brown & Root and another company got 2,700 contracts worth billions of dollars,” says Lewis.

 

“So they helped to design the architecture for privatizing a lot of what happens today in the Pentagon when we have military engagements. And two years later, when he leaves the department of defense, Cheney is CEO of Halliburton. Thank you very much. It's a nice arrangement for all concerned.”

 

During the five years that Cheney was at Halliburton, the company nearly doubled the value of its federal contracts, and the vice president became a very rich man.

 

Lewis is not saying that Cheney did anything illegal. But he doesn't believe for a minute that this was all just a coincidence.

 

“Why would a defense secretary, former chief of staff to a president, and former member of congress with no business experience ever in his life, not for a day, why would he become the CEO of a multibillion dollar oil services company,” asks Lewis “Well, it could be related to government contracts. He was brought in to raise their government contract profile. And he did. And they ended up with billions of dollars in new contracts because they had a former defense secretary at the helm.”

 

Cheney, Lewis says, may be an honorable and brilliant man, but “as George Washington Plunkett once said, ‘I saw my … seen my opportunities and I took them."

 

Both Halliburton and the Pentagon believe Lewis is insulting not only the vice president but thousands of professional civil servants who evaluate and award defense contracts based strictly on merit.

 

But does the fact that Cheney used to run Halliburton have any effect at all on the company getting government contracts?

 

“Zero,” says Dominy. “I will guarantee you that. Absolutely zero impact.”

 

“In fact, I wish I could embed [critics] in the department of defense contracting system for a week or so. Once they'd done that, they'd have religion just like I do, about how the system cannot be influenced.”

 

Dominy has been with Halliburton for seven years. Before that, he was former three-star Army general. One of his last military assignments was as a commander at the Army Corps of Engineers.

 

And now, the Army Corps of Engineers is also the government agency that awards contracts to companies like Halliburton.

 

Asked if his expertise in that area had anything to do with his employment at Halliburton, Dominy replies, “None.”

 

But Lewis isn’t surprised at all.

 

“Of course, he’s from the Army Corps. And of course, he’s a general,” says Lewis. “I’m sure he and no one else at Halliburton sees the slightest thing that might look strange about that, or a little cozy maybe.”

 

Lewis says the best example of these cozy relationships is the defense policy board, a group of high-powered civilians who advise the secretary of defense on major policy issues - like whether or not to invade Iraq. Its 30 members are a Who's Who of former senior government and military officials.

 

There’s nothing wrong with that, but as the Center For Public Integrity recently discovered, nine of them have ties to corporations and private companies that have won more than $76 billion in defense contracts. And that's just in the last two years.

 

“This is not about the revolving door, people going in and out,” says Lewis. “There is no door. There's no wall. I can't tell where one stops and the other starts. I'm dead serious.”

 

“They have classified clearances, they go to classified meetings and they're with companies getting billions of dollars in classified contracts. And their disclosures about their activities are classified. Well, isn't that what they did when they were inside the government? What's the difference, except they're in the private sector.”

 

Richard Perle resigned as chairman of the defense policy board last month after it was disclosed that he had financial ties to several companies doing business with the Pentagon.

 

But Perle still sits on the board, along with former CIA director James Woolsey, who works for the consulting firm of Booz, Allen, Hamilton. The firm did nearly $700 million dollars in business with the Pentagon last year.

 

Another board member, retired four-star general Jack Sheehan, is now a senior vice president at the Bechtel corporation, which just won a $680 million contract to rebuild the infrastructure in Iraq.

 

That contract was awarded by the State Department, which used to be run by George Schultz, who sits on Bechtel's board of directors.

 

“I'm not saying that it's illegal. These guys wrote the laws. They set up the system for themselves. Of course it's legal,” says Lewis.

 

“It just looks like hell. It looks like you have folks feeding at the trough. And they may be doing it in red white and blue and we may be all singing the "Star Spangled Banner," but they're doing quite well."

 

copy/pasted from: here

scathing. take that to the comedy club lenny...

 

tease...sandbox playin' oner.

Meh:p

 

Money makes the world go round. Let's just hope the price of petrol goes down. Anyone fancy a cheeseburger and freedom fries?

your one of them arent you ?

Originally posted by Rodney Trotter

Meh:p

 

Money makes the world go round. Let's just hope the price of petrol goes down. Anyone fancy a cheeseburger and freedom fries?

 

FUCK YOU AND YOUR FREEDOM FRIES! VIVA LA FRANCE!

ALthough sickening, this kind of bullshit has been going on for a long time, the Bush cabinet is just a little more ballsy and the american public is just a little more stupid lately.. Its funny how material comfort compromises your intelligence.

like fuckign gay due

 

yeah those companys suck my dick and im down with that.....

 

 

 

 

LKLKLKLKLKLKLKLKLKLK ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL FUCKING DAY

the title of this thread pushes me away.