Guest GoBiloe Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 right, so i want to start doing tattoos... can anyone help me out on where to get a tattoo *machine*? (i think they might be illegal if you don't have a certificate or something) im interested in general info about people get started. i hear you have to go through an apprenticeship but just getting the *machine* and doing it up for people i know seems easier... i don't know much about this but i have people who are willing to be tattooed by my incompenent ass and it's really funny so i want to get on that shit. THANKS KIDS! oh also post a description of the worst tattoo you or your friends have gotten / done on someone. my friend has a roll of toilet paper on his ankle... and a blue cartoon whale on his wrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Are2 Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 tattoo magazines advertise starter kits through the mail...just look in the classifieds in the back all three of my tattoo artists have told me they used to practice on grapefruit..supposedly the best thing (most like skin) and yes, apprenticing is definitely the best way whatever you do, be sure you know alll you have to about sterilization!!!! hepatitis is dangerous as well as other vd's...like aids worst tattoo i've ever seen was a flick the dude had a terrible wolf "portrait" on his arm it was huge it said " LONE WOOF " yes, i meant to misspell that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl junkie Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 ok, first things first... if you want anyone to take you seriously, don't call it a gun, it's a machine. Now that that's over with, most of the machines that you can order are crap. They'll work, but not for very long, and they will never work well. Most tattoo supply companies (one of the places where you would buy a quality machine, as well as needles and all the other neccessities) require you to have a recommendation from someone who has an acount with them in order to give you an account. That is one advantage to apprenticing. The other reason to apprentice is that tattooing is a lot different than just drawing. Imagine drawing on paper that moves. You need to laern what to do when reach a part of skin that doesn't wanna puncture, or simply how deep to lay yer line. Not to say that no one can learn these things on their own, but if yer on yer own then yer gonna leave a lot of fucked up tattoos and a lot of nasty scars in yer wake. As for machines, you can get shitty, cheap kits in almost any tattoo magazine, just look for ads. But if you want a good machine try checking e-bay or something. Look on the web and you really shouldn't have to much trouble finding used equipment. just make sure yer getting everything you need: machines, power supply, clip cords, foot switch... also look for a supplier of already made, already sterilized needles. another advantage of apprenticing is you would learn to make needles, which is impossible to learn really, without having someone there teaching you... so, long story short: yes, you can get equipment and teach yourself, but i would highly recommend getting an apprenticeship.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Morris Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 there was a guy that used to live in my neighborhood that did home made tattooes with a home made gun...they were horrible..I was 13 and stil thaught were hirrble. a friend of mine let him tattoo a sun on him and I laughed so hard. The guy could not do ANY color work and there were so many blownout lines....If you want to get into tattooing become an apprentice. or I will point and laugh t you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest platapie Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 peopel are willing to let you do this to them? and oyou have no experience? these people are so stupid i cant imagine how dumb they might possibly be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 I think the name of one is Huck Spaulding or something based out of the NorthEast. I can't remember. Fuck that I would try out tatts on me. All I ever done is 3 dots a couple of places and a line with a needle wrapped with sewing thread to experiment. Good luck finding friends to let you practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willy.wonka Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 some guy was on my nuts soooo bad, he was willing to let me use his body to practice anything i wanted...he was dead serious and i had to tell him no after many times... i would have fucked him up....i couldnt do it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl junkie Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 Originally posted by Pistol I think the name of one is Huck Spaulding or something based out of the NorthEast. spaulding and rogers enterprises... just one of the great suppliers that require a recommendation... :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcia_vega Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 my advice to buying a starter kit is..DON"T BOTHER! get an appenticeship, if you can't find one, try harder. you need to get an apprenticeship, because you won't realize how much you need to learn until someone teaches it to you. did you know you can spread hepititis c by not covering your clip chord in barrier film, or not covering your spray bottles? did you know that if you don't clean new needles in an ultrasonic that any flux acid left on them from the soldering process can cause an allergic reaction? or would you know how to handle it if someone passed out on you, puked, had an allergic reaction to a pigment you used on them etc... this is all shit you'll learn in a good apprenticeship, and it's not going to be in one of those stupid learn to tattoo videos or "tattooing a to z" by huck spaulding. what if your tube is spitting or you blow a capacitor in the middle of a tattoo-what do you do? i've seen the capacitor blow up, and the client passed out all in the same job. you wont be able to handle shit like that without an apprenticeship, and if you're not prepared for any possible problem that may arise, you should not be tattooing anyone. and if you ignore my advice, you could end up fuckin up your own career before it even starts because you know what people do with tattoos--they show them off. and if you do a bunch of real shitty ones, who's gonna want to get any more work from you? part2: how do i get an apprenticeship-- go around to tattoo shops, hopefully ones where you like the work they do, show them your artwork, kiss their ass, then prepare to spend a year being the bitch, fetching lunch, scrubbing toilets, mopping floors, making needles--i know it seems harder but trust me you're gonna make it 10 times harder on yourself trying to work from a starter kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl junkie Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 Originally posted by garcia_vega i've seen the capacitor blow up, and the client passed out all in the same job. hahaha! well, at least he didn't piss his pants too... that always sucks. (i bet this was all on a tiny little piece too, huh...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GoBiloe Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 Originally posted by garcia_vega my advice to buying a starter kit is..DON"T BOTHER! get an appenticeship, if you can't find one, try harder. you need to get an apprenticeship, because you won't realize how much you need to learn until someone teaches it to you. did you know you can spread hepititis c by not covering your clip chord in barrier film, or not covering your spray bottles? did you know that if you don't clean new needles in an ultrasonic that any flux acid left on them from the soldering process can cause an allergic reaction? or would you know how to handle it if someone passed out on you, puked, had an allergic reaction to a pigment you used on them etc... this is all shit you'll learn in a good apprenticeship, and it's not going to be in one of those stupid learn to tattoo videos or "tattooing a to z" by huck spaulding. what if your tube is spitting or you blow a capacitor in the middle of a tattoo-what do you do? i've seen the capacitor blow up, and the client passed out all in the same job. you wont be able to handle shit like that without an apprenticeship, and if you're not prepared for any possible problem that may arise, you should not be tattooing anyone. and if you ignore my advice, you could end up fuckin up your own career before it even starts because you know what people do with tattoos--they show them off. and if you do a bunch of real shitty ones, who's gonna want to get any more work from you? part2: how do i get an apprenticeship-- go around to tattoo shops, hopefully ones where you like the work they do, show them your artwork, kiss their ass, then prepare to spend a year being the bitch, fetching lunch, scrubbing toilets, mopping floors, making needles--i know it seems harder but trust me you're gonna make it 10 times harder on yourself trying to work from a starter kit. wow, i didn't know ANY of that shit... but i definitely appreciate hearing it! do you think there is any way to be enrolled in school full time and do a tattoo apprenticeship? it sounds like a fulltime deal... thanks for your insight dude, i may email you if you don't mind. peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl junkie Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 that's the bitch part about apprenticeships... no pay, and yer there full time. if you work a school schedule right you can do both, but then there's the money issue... it's tough, but it can be done... good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl junkie Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 Originally posted by garcia_vega this is all shit you'll learn in a good apprenticeship, and it's not going to be in one of those stupid learn to tattoo videos or "tattooing a to z" by huck spaulding. "a to z" was one of the biggest wastes of time in my whole life... that thing was useless. i've never heard of anyone making needles the way they do in that book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bug Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 Originally posted by GoBiloe do you think there is any way to be enrolled in school full time and do a tattoo apprenticeship? i'm no expert, but a few years ago i asked a really good tattoo artist to be apprenticed and he liked my work, but i was going to school full time, and he said the only way to get good is to do it regularly and frequently, and if i wan't going to give it 100% of my attention i'll never be good, and he wouldn't waste his time on me. like other people said, you have to be at a shop full time, you have to be the bitch. its the best way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto dix Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 just dont bother with any of it. honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl junkie Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 Originally posted by my sweetheart, the drunk just dont bother with any of it. honestly. why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willy.wonka Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 i was going to get an apprenticeship title,but the guy wanted 90% of my earnings and wanted to take credit for my ideas...herion addict too.he started to plan my life in 15 minutes and i was out of there...san diego....bullrider bud hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl junkie Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 take credit for your ideas?! fuck that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxcarwilly Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 i went thru a half apprenticeship and it helped, i know i am not ready to work onskin, i probably could but my head isnt there, it takes a lot of humbling to be a tattoo artist and a lot more to be a good one... if you take one thing out of your apprenticeship take humility because in the trade that is the most endearing trait... and unless you are a natural like anil gupta GET tattooed get heavily tattooed you will be tattooing people everywhere get tattooed everywhere... never get something done be someone who hasnt had it done themselves... personal opinion... this isnt all cases like i mentioned anil at inkline in nyc gbye he onlyrecently started getting tattooed but hes amazing... would i let him do my hands no would i let him do an arm sleeve fuck yeah... justthings to think about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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