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Diary of a madman

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by T.T Boy, Sep 12, 2001.

  1. T.T Boy

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    Diary of a madman

    Discussion started by T.T Boy - Sep 12, 2001

    I recieved this in an email today.


    DIARY OF A MADMAN

    For those interested, take time to read the following information concerning

    Usama Bin Laden. Assuming he is the one responsible (whether direct or
    indirect), the perceived threat below is information enough to justify
    stopping
    this lunatic immediately. His (presumed) attack on New York has clearly
    demonstrated their ability to strike westerners at home. Just over a year
    ago I
    read an article from a security think-tank who said one of the next major
    terrorist threats could originate from a "suitcase nuke" brought into the
    harbour of a major U.S. city from overseas. Originally I believed we were
    years
    away from such a threat but after today's attack one has to wonder if this
    isn't a very "real" possibility. I always try to avoid making political
    statements here but under the circumstances I believe the United States
    government has no choice but to eliminate this organization (Al-Qa'ida) as
    soon
    as possible.


    SIGNIFICANT EVENTS REGARDING BIN LADEN'S INTEREST IN NUCLEAR WEAPONS

    September 25, 1998

    Bin Laden's aide Mamdouh Mahmud Salim was arrested in Munich, Germany, and
    charged with acting on behalf of Bin Laden to obtain nuclear materials. In
    particular, Salim reportedly attempted to obtain highly enriched uranium in
    the
    mid-1990s.(6)

    August 16, 1998

    Israeli military intelligence sources reported that Bin Laden paid over 2
    million pounds sterling to a middle-man in Kazakhstan, who promised to
    deliver
    a "suitcase" bomb to Bin Laden within two years. In an attempt to prevent
    Bin
    Laden from obtaining such weapons from Kazakhstan, Israel sent a cabinet
    minister to the republic to persuade the Kazakh government to prevent such
    exchanges from occurring.(7)

    October 6, 1998

    The Saudi-owned, London-based Arabic newspaper, Al-Hayat, declared that Bin
    Laden had obtained nuclear weapons.(8)

    November 13, 1998

    Expanding on information in the October 6, 1998 article in Al-Hayat, the
    Arabic
    news magazine Al-Watan Al-Arabi reported that Usama Bin Laden was engaged in
    a
    comprehensive plan to acquire nuclear weapons. From information reportedly
    provided by sources that included the Russian intelligence agency, the
    Federal
    Security Service (FSB), the report stated that Bin Laden had forged links
    with
    organized crime members in the former Soviet republics in Central Asia and
    the
    Caucasus.(9)

    The Al-Watan Al-Arabi article cited one particular meeting in which an
    agreement was negotiated by some of Bin Laden's followers and Chechen
    organized
    crime figures in Grozny, Chechnya. It was referred to as "the nuclear
    warheads
    deal." Bin Laden reportedly gave the contacts in Chechnya $30 million in
    cash
    and two tons of opium in exchange for approximately 20 nuclear warheads.
    Sources stated that Bin Laden planned to have the warheads dismantled by his

    own team of scientists, who would then transform the weapons into "instant
    nukes" or "suitcase nukes."(10)

    Al-Watan Al-Arabi also reported that Bin Laden had tried a different route
    to
    acquisition before turning to Chechnya for nuclear weapons. According to the

    article, Bin Laden's original strategy was to develop his own "in-house"
    nuclear manufacturing complex, in which small, tactical nuclear weapons
    would
    be manufactured from scratch. Beginning in 1993, Bin Laden instructed some
    of
    his aides to obtain weapons-grade uranium that could be used to develop
    small
    nuclear weapons.(11)

    December 24, 1998

    In an interview with Time Magazine, Bin Laden asserted that acquiring
    weapons
    of any type was a Muslim "religious duty." When asked whether he was seeking
    to
    obtain chemical or nuclear weapons, Bin Laden replied, "Acquiring weapons
    for
    the defense of Muslims is a religious duty. If I have indeed acquired these
    weapons, then I thank God for enabling me to do so."(12) He responded
    similarly
    to the same question in an ABC News interview two days later, stating, "If I

    seek to acquire such weapons, this is a religious duty. How we use them is
    up
    to us."(13)

    The Al-Watan al-Arabi source stated that Bin Laden's team of scientists was
    composed of "five nuclear scientists from Turkmenistan," and that the leader
    of
    the team "used to work on the atomic reactor of Iraq before it was destroyed
    by
    Israel in the 1980's." The same source also stated that the scientists were
    working to develop a nuclear reactor that could be used "to transform the
    fissionable material into a more active source, one which can produce a
    fission
    reaction from a very small amount of material and be placed in a package
    smaller than a backpack."(14) In addition, the source stated that Bin Laden
    had
    hired "hundreds of atomic scientists" from the former Soviet Union.
    Reportedly,
    Bin Laden paid the scientists $2,000 per month, an amount much greater than
    their wages in the former Soviet republics.(15)

    General 1997-1998

    As a result of the revelations about Bin Laden's alleged nuclear activities,

    intelligence agencies worldwide directed their attention to the apparent
    connection between opium production in Afghanistan and Al-Qa'ida's interest
    in
    nuclear weapons. Opium farmers in Afghanistan produced approximately 3,269
    tons
    of opium in 1997-98. In late 1998, Bin Laden reportedly sent interested
    parties
    to Afghanistan to buy large amounts of opium, probably to raise funds for
    Al-
    Qa'ida.(16)


    THE 1993 - 1994 ATTEMPTED URANIUM PURCHASE IN SUDAN

    During the third day of the trial, February 7, 2001, Al-Fadl testified that
    he
    was directly involved in an attempt to purchase uranium for Usama Bin Laden
    at
    the end of 1993 or the beginning of 1994. According to his testimony,
    Al-Fadl
    was telephoned by a senior Al-Qa'ida official, Abu Fadhl [most probably Fadl
    or
    Fazl] al-Makkee, and was instructed to meet with a contact in Khartoum,
    Sudan,
    who allegedly possessed uranium. The witness met first with Abu Abd Allah
    al-
    Yemeni (aka Abu Dijana) and was given the name of another contact, Moqadem
    Salah Abd al-Mobruk, a lieutenant colonel in the Sudanese Army who,
    according
    to the testimony, had been a former minister during the Numeiri presidency
    (1969-83).(5)

    Al-Fadl was charged with evaluating the situation, and after conferring with

    other associates, including his cousin, he met with al-Mobruk. Al-Mobruk
    referred Al-Fadl to a man named Basheer, and the two met at an office on
    Jambouria Street in Khartoum, Sudan. When questioned by Basheer as to
    whether
    Al-Qa'ida was serious about acquiring uranium, Al-Fadl claimed, "I know
    people,
    they [are] very serious, and they want to buy it." He noted that Al-Qa'ida
    was
    concerned primarily with the quality of the material and the country of
    origin,
    and secondarily with the cost. The arranged price was $1.5 million, plus
    additional commissions for Basheer and al-Mobruk. At this point, the main
    issue
    concerned the method of testing the uranium.

    After reporting back to al-Makkee, Al-Fadl was sent to speak with a new
    contact, Abu Rida al-Suri. This meeting took place at the Ikhlak Company in
    the
    Baraka building in Khartoum. Al-Suri instructed Al-Fadl to return to Basheer

    and report that the organization had an "electric machine" capable of
    testing
    uranium. Again through an intermediary, Al-Fadl arranged a meeting with
    Basheer
    and, in a small house in the town of Bait al-Mal, north of Khartoum, Al-Fadl

    and al-Suri were shown a cylinder approximately 2-3 feet tall with a lot of
    words engraved on it. The men were given a note that Al-Fadl was told to
    deliver to another contact, Abu Hajer, and then await further instructions.
    Al-
    Fadl did not recollect exactly what was written on the paper, only that it
    was
    written in English, said "South Africa" on it, and contained a serial
    number.

    Hajer sent Al-Fadl back to al-Suri, and the two men held another meeting
    with
    Basheer during which they informed him that they were willing to purchase
    the
    cylinder. When questioned by Basheer regarding the method of testing the
    uranium, Al-Fadl remembered that al-Suri had claimed to have a machine from
    Kenya suitable for such purposes.

    Al-Fadl was then instructed to arrange a meeting between al-Suri and
    al-Mobruk,
    after which he was informed that his services were no longer needed. Al-Fadl

    received $10,000 for his time and effort and did not take a further role in
    the
    uranium acquisition. However, he did claim that Al-Amin Abd al-Marouf, a
    member
    of the Islamic National Front in Sudan, informed him a few days later that
    the
    cylinder of uranium was to be tested in the town of Hilat Koko, Cyprus.
    Al-Fadl
    testified that he did not know whether the uranium had in fact been tested
    and
    was not privy to any additional information about the transaction.
     
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    *see-phore* - Replied Sep 12, 2001

    long ass post but informing thank you.
     
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    brown twinkie - Replied Sep 12, 2001

    this shit gets dicey-er by the hour....
     
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    KidGoneBad - Replied Sep 12, 2001

    There is some SERIOUS shit going down....

    Planes flying into buildings is one thing, but Nuclear bombs? Fuck, I'm glad I'm not in the states right now. You should all get the fuck out of there
     
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    FROSTY - Replied Sep 12, 2001

    man dont worry the states got shit under control.
     
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    fr8oholic - Replied Sep 13, 2001

    this is scary shit
     
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