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Defend our constitution...

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by daus, Dec 12, 2001.

  1. daus

    daus Member

    Joined: Jul 16, 2001 Messages: 868 Likes Received: 0
    Just got this email from a friend and thought Id pass it on to whoever is interested. peace.

    Dear friend of MoveOn,

    In Senate hearings last week, Attorney General John Ashcroft
    questioned the patriotism of those speaking out for civil liberties:
    "Your tactics only aid terrorists, for they erode our national
    unity and diminish our resolve," he said. "They give ammunition
    to America's enemies and pause to America's friends."

    We can't let Ashcroft bully American citizens into deserting
    our Constitution. Join our "Defend the Constitution" campaign at:


    We've all read the stories. The knock in the night. The quick
    scuffle, the cries of the children. And then the silence.
    Frantic spouses and friends trying to get even the slightest
    information about the loved one who has been arrested in the
    dead of night. Secret arrests on secret evidence, secret trials,
    secret executions.

    But that can't happen here, right? We're talking about Nazi Germany
    or Stalin's Russia or Pinochet's Chile. But not the USA! We're
    protected by the rule of law, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights!

    The Attorney General says it isn't so. We're at war, he says and the
    Constitution doesn't fully apply in an emergency. Anyhow, we're not
    talking about denying the rights of US citizens, just of the 20 million
    non-citizen residents of this country.

    In the last two months, this administration has:
    - Announced that it would permit the monitoring of conversations
    between attorneys and their clients if suspected of terrorism;
    - Abolished civilian jury trials for non-citizen residents accused
    of terrorism;
    - Permitted the secret detention of suspects accused of terrorism;
    - Asked to use secret evidence to prosecute deportation hearings
    without providing that evidence to the defense.

    The administration argues that these draconian measures are necessary
    to preserve our way of life.

    We respectfully disagree. It is when we are fearful that we most need
    the protections of our constitution. Our institutions have worked for
    us for over 200 years. We are a nation of laws, not of men. Our
    freedom depends upon the rule of law. We don't suspend the law because
    we're under attack. We support and defend it.

    This is not an issue of the left or right. William Safire, the
    conservative columnist, has called the Administration's moves "a dismaying
    departure from due process" and an assumption of "dictatorial power."

    We urge Congress to assert that the Constitution and Bill of Rights must
    be fully respected, particularly in this time of crisis. We need your
    help and urge you join this petition by going to:


    Charge Congress and the President with honoring their oaths of office --
    to "defend the Constitution."

    Sincerely yours,

    - Wes Boyd and Doug Carlston
    December 12, 2001

    "The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is
    eternal vigilance." -John Philpot Curran, 1790

    "It is fundamental that the great powers of Congress to conduct
    war and to regulate the Nation's foreign relations are subject to the
    constitutional requirements of due process. The imperative necessity
    for safeguarding these rights to procedural due process under the
    gravest of emergencies has existed throughout our constitutional
    history, for it is then, under the pressing exigencies of crisis, that
    there is the greatest temptation to dispense with fundamental
    constitutional guarantees which, it is feared, will inhibit
    governmental action."
    -Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg
    in Kennedy v. Mendoza-Martinez, 1963

    "Why suspend the habeas corpus in insurrections and rebellions?
    Examine the history of England. See how few of the cases of the
    suspension of the habeas corpus law have been worthy of that
    suspension. They have been either real treasons, wherein the parties
    might as well have been charged at once, or sham plots, where it was
    shameful they should ever have been suspected. Yet for the few cases
    wherein the suspension of the habeas corpus has done real good, that
    operation is now become habitual and the minds of the nation almost
    prepared to live under its constant suspension."
    -Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1788
  2. boogie hands

    boogie hands 12oz Legend

    Joined: Feb 15, 2001 Messages: 16,059 Likes Received: 13
    well, ill bump this, its a sad statement about the reality of our goverment when aware citizens are considered a risk to the state of our country. does anyone remeber the president saying the war in afghanastan would be a ground war....now villagers are toting un-exploded bombs out of the middle of their houses....
  3. ctrl+alt+del

    ctrl+alt+del Guest

    check out the post on will the war change graff and read the article in it, or go to whatreallyhappened.com

    its very disturbing whats going on. very sad that people would rather not know about it too. ill try to talk about it with my friends and they tell me to shut up./