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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by fr8lover, Sep 16, 2002.

  1. fr8lover

    fr8lover Guest

    i just donated 10 bones and got about 4 great zines, stickers, flyers, newsletters and EVASION and DAYS OF WAR, NIGHTS OF LOVE in a nice box.

    i read this zine called DROPPING OUT, this girl drops out of high school and writes about how you can live off the fat of the land and hoptrains/hitch and do whatever you want and steal to get by. interesting read.

    DIY GUIDE II was fresh too, everything from how to hop trains, shoplifting and even a do-it-yourself herbal abortion pill (this was the only thing that kinda weirded me out heh).

    now im reading EVASION and i can already tell ill read this book in a matter of a day or two it is a great narrative about living the free "anti-capitalist" lifestyle.

    even though im a big chicken and probably wont go to these lengths to be "free," it is a great read and a chance for every suburban ock like myself to escape the clutches of money and greed through others.
  2. Mr. Mang

    Mr. Mang Elite Member

    Joined: Feb 27, 2002 Messages: 2,901 Likes Received: 1
    i've always wanted to check it out.
  3. swif1

    swif1 Veteran Member

    Joined: Dec 13, 2001 Messages: 7,067 Likes Received: 29
    sounds dope.
  4. vinyl junkie

    vinyl junkie Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 17, 2002 Messages: 4,725 Likes Received: 0
    the whole crimethink deal (including evasion) is pretty rad, and i will admit it changed the way i view some things, but the longer they're around the less i respect them... they really blew up when they released the collected evasions... ever since then there's been more and more people and their zines talking about how they're so alternative and subversive... they all write with the same style that evasion made popular and they all portray the exact same mentality and morals... i definately don't bathe on any regular basis, but if i hear the words "i don't believe in following other people's standards of cleanliness" i'm gonna hit someone...

    the other thing that bugs the shit out of me is that while i whole-heartedly support theft, i support theft from large companies and corporations! the crimethinc kids not only don't speak against it, but they have admitted to stealing a car to fund publishing a zine, and ran a contest which involved breaking several individual's houses... that gets a big fuck that from me...

    but anyways, good score...
  5. Dirty_habiT

    Dirty_habiT Administrator

    Joined: Mar 8, 2001 Messages: 18,128 Likes Received: 76
    Someone..... link, I'm lazy.
  6. socrates

    socrates Guest

    You paid for something anti-capitalist...am I the only one to see the irony
  7. DOLR....LED

    DOLR....LED Member

    Joined: Jul 2, 2002 Messages: 675 Likes Received: 1
  8. socrates

    socrates Guest

    that would make them capitalists???
  9. Dirty_habiT

    Dirty_habiT Administrator

    Joined: Mar 8, 2001 Messages: 18,128 Likes Received: 76
    Anticapitalists tricking the capitalists outta their precious dollars. Now, as I was saying before.... a link? Am I speaking fucking Spanish here?
  10. socrates

    socrates Guest

    Si, Senor:mexican:
  11. SIEGE 1 NJ

    SIEGE 1 NJ New Jack

    Joined: Aug 21, 2002 Messages: 66 Likes Received: 0
    CrimethINC has spawned thousands of kids to be dumpstering, poverty romanticizing rich kids to miss the picture. Some pretty cool ideas, but I don't want to get wrapped up in "free" yet seeemingly pretentious scene... Their DIY guides are truly sick though, so cred for that.
  12. KaBar

    KaBar Senior Member

    Joined: Oct 9, 2001 Messages: 1,397 Likes Received: 28
    Been There

    I got into a big argument about this already on here, so I won't do it again, but I'd like to point out that I was into all this same shit (except for shoplifting and stealing) IN 1969.

    It makes me laugh. How many times are we going to re-invent the wheel? Anarchism dates from 1866. Anarcho-syndicalism in the form we see today, from about 1920. The IWW from 1905. The International Working Men's Association (just the name ought to tell you how old this outfit is) dates from the first International and the split between Karl Marx & Fredrich Engels and Mikhail Bakunin.

    The ideas put forth by Crimethinc.com have been discredited since well before 1940. What's next? Bismarckism? How about something really new and untried? I don't think petty theft and vandalism is going to be a lifestyle with currency and staying power. Anybody remember Situationism? From the '70s/ early '80s? Weatherman Underground Organization? I didn't think so. They thought they were hot shit on a stick back in those days.

    Rudy the Red? Bernadine Rae Dohrn? Bill Ayers? Kathy Boudin? David Gilbert? Jeff Jones? Susan Rosenberg? Silas Bissell? (ever bought a vacuum cleaner?) Linda Evans? Ted Gold? Diana Oughton? Terry Robbins? No? Use your browser, it's an interesting story. Sort of.
  13. Dirty_habiT

    Dirty_habiT Administrator

    Joined: Mar 8, 2001 Messages: 18,128 Likes Received: 76
    Alright, way to make me not know what the fuck you're talking about. But, it sounds like you are very knowledgable on the situations... so I'll just blindly take your word for it while, at the same time, refraining from baiting you with a cross examination.
  14. KaBar

    KaBar Senior Member

    Joined: Oct 9, 2001 Messages: 1,397 Likes Received: 28
    Aw, COME ON, Dirty

    Type Bernadine Rae Dohrn and Bill Ayers into your friggin' search engine. It won't take but a minute. Time travel, fella. Did you know paisano wine fosters time travel? Must be the histamines in the red wine.
  15. fr8lover

    fr8lover Guest

    LOOK, i didnt get this stuff to do a 180 and change my life, i got it for some interesting reading material. im in no way a radical, and some of the stuff said i find funny instead of motivational. nevertheless, ive so far enjoyed reading the material and it has passed the time. THATS what i got it for.

    jesus you guys...