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cracked's "minifesto"

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Cracked Ass, Jul 17, 2002.

  1. Cracked Ass

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    cracked's "minifesto"

    Discussion started by Cracked Ass - Jul 17, 2002

    This was originally a response to the "fuck terrorist bullshit" thread, but it went beyond that topic, and that thread is so beat few people would have noticed my little manifesto. I thought it might provoke some thought so I turned it into a new thread. Sorry for the self-importance.
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    I am late to this thread, and too crosseyed after the first 4 pages to read the other four, so pardon me if this already came up.
    I understand where almost everyone is coming from in this thread, and I've already covered all the ground everyone has covered, come up with the grand unified theory, and moved on. Then I'm too weary of all the bullshit to even try to explain my position. It's possible that I have the highest IQ of anyone on this board, but trust me, I'm not bragging - it's often a curse, and it doesn't help me in life like you think it would. Hard work is much more of a result-getter than high intelligence. I am one lazy, underachieving, observant motherfucker.
    On to my analysis: It seems to me that the moral variations among the participants in this conversation lead to different blind spots. I see where Esai and jah are coming from, and if you boil it down and skip the details, their beliefs and views probably stem from a frustration with this fact: Humans are smart enough and have the technology and money to clothe, feed and shelter their entire species, yet they continue to make war, make classes, make slaves, and hoard and squander resources. This seems to be a common liberal complaint, that we have the brains but lack the compassion to live harmoniously. The blindness of this view is an inadequate understanding of human nature: that humans are competitive, survival-oriented brutes, in whom greed and selfishness are at least partially programmed to aid natural selection, and these qualities do not vanish just because an individual, or a culture, has all it needs to live.
    On the other side are people like Kabar, who grasp human nature better, but are content to lock up their worldly goods and defend them with guns, smug about being on today's winning team and not wasting much compassion on the losers, despite the sureness of the cycles of time: that empires rise and fall, and surely the US will someday be dust, or run by quite different landlords. Not in our lifetimes, is my guess - this country will last generations yet, and undergo changes I can't foresee. We're just Romans with the internet, at the peak of our empire.
    I wind up mostly in Kabar's crowd out of pragmatism, and perhaps he does too. In a world you can't change, the logical objective is to look out for yourself and your own happiness, and that's easier in the US than a lot of other places, especially if you have a gluttonous appetite. I just have a weary contempt of most humans, sometimes myself included, and American stupidity is the easiest kind for me to sneer at because it's geographically handier than other kinds. I loathe stupidity, so I am obligated to be a misanthrope, an unusually smart specimen of an otherwise brutish and dumb race of beings. Then some days I feel more mellow and forgiving, that it's a miracle we have as much cooperation worldwide as we do. And who am I to judge the human race? I'm part of it.
    I often see the earth from a great distance in my mind's eye, a big blue and green anthill, and off to the left (usually the left for some reason) the sun that will one day expand and fry most of the solar system to cinders, and both poison and motivation drain from my body. I just sit in a chair and watch 9-to-5ers in their bizarre rush, thinking them at least as strange as people who paint freight trains or train in terrorist camps or hawk Jesus to subway straphangers via pamphlets and a sandwich board. If you can't step back that far, you'll never understand America or Al Qaeda or yourself or the doofus you're arguing with on 12oz.
     
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    hulk hogan - Replied Jul 17, 2002

    would wobbly headed bob be the little baseball player fellow on the dashboad of my car?
     
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  4. imported_El Mamerro - Replied Jul 17, 2002

    Cracked wins, pointless political arguments over. Beer,

    El Mamerro
     
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    Gnes 37 - Replied Jul 17, 2002

    quite brilliant
     
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    Xeroshoes - Replied Jul 17, 2002

    I'm not sure what you mean. I can see no real downside to having the capacity to understand more about the universe than most people, whether you make the most of it or not is unrelated (I know i haven't either, I may even have irreversibly damaged it.)

    I like to imagine that machines will replace people, and our current manifestation's imperfections will be eliminated, and our science will bring us to the farthest reaches of the galaxy, but with the current state of mankind that seems barely fathomable to me. I say good riddance, let mankind kill itself, we're a bunch of idiots and we aren't getting smarter.

    But I'm just a stupid, uninformed kid...
     
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    Raw fish - Replied Jul 17, 2002

    I loved cracked ass.... man is on point, all the way.

    and hes right, being smarter than the rest is definately not a benefit.

    im having the kind of day where I am content to sit back and watch it all begin to fall apart, while also being completely puzzled about how people can go about their lives and not realize that their every action brings the end one step closer for us all...

    cracked... I would love to paint with you again some time... email me, maybe we can work something out
     
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    Re: Re: cracked's "minifesto"

    the downside is that understanding does not necessarily bring about change, acceptence or happiness. its no small wonder that throught history, the smartest people have often tended to be self abusing masochists, drunks, addicts, or borderline mental patients. when you know something to be fact, you can no longer deny it in favor of siding with the (more comforting or convenient) oposition. there is no seeking refuge in denial and lies. you are stuck with reality as it 'is', not as you would like it to be. that is not always an easy thing to come to terms with, no matter how smart you are.
    sometimes understanding feels more like a cage than a blessing. when you begin to understand things, it just opens up more questions, and the whole thing becomes a pandoras box. its difference between walking around in a maze, trying to find a way out, frustrated to find no end in sight, verses sitting in one corner of the maze drinking beer and getting old.
    sometimes i honestly question which one really has more answers....


    good post cracked.
     
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    Mr. Mang - Replied Jul 17, 2002

    IQ tests don't really prove anything in my opinion. that whole comment kind of ruined any 'good intent' the post had . . .
     
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    Fox Mulder - Replied Jul 17, 2002

    a lot of times ignorance is bliss... and its so true that you can be very smart but not have much motivation, so you go through life as an underachiever.
     
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    seeking - Replied Jul 17, 2002

    yeah totally, cause cracked is such an ego maniacle monster! always walking around forcing his opinions down peoples throats and making them feel stupid for not being as smart as he is!




    cracked, im looking forward to UP this year, as you and i will be heading up team 'sober'. im not quite as funny sober, but im a bit more coherent.
     
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    Mr. Mang - Replied Jul 17, 2002

    it just seemed like bragging regardless. interesting post though.


    i've never seen him post here before and he's crew? hm. not making assumptions, just thought it was odd.
     
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    I Luv Roo - Replied Jul 17, 2002

    Cracked -
    You must be smart, and you are inkling on "intuitive". If you continue to step back and view the world and yourself as a tiny part of a huge, infinite universe, your IQ will be irrelevant.
     
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    Smart - Replied Jul 17, 2002

    Cracked, you're so fucking arrogant! How presumptive of you to decide that we are at our peak! Anyway, I hunger for the decadant Caligulaic days to come...
     
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