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computer help for musicians?

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by mental invalid, Jul 10, 2002.

  1. mental invalid

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    computer help for musicians?

    Discussion started by mental invalid - Jul 10, 2002

    not for me, but rather an amigo of mine.......

    he is not really at all knowledgable about computers (nor am i) and what he needs to get...he just got information overload from a few sleazy sales doods.....so i thought i might be able to get the straight scoop from some heads on the boards...

    so guys and gals whats your machine? whats is hardware? whats its software?

    basically he is a jazz player looking to do mixing, recording, electronics, etc etc.....

    all information appreciated........thanks
     
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    Smart - Replied Jul 10, 2002

    well, I could ramble on for hours, but instead... why don't you tell me about his hardware and what the salesman tried to push on him
     
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    mental invalid - Replied Jul 10, 2002

    hahaha.....not sure the kid was so fucking flustered....it was kinda funny actually....basically the guy was pushing the g4 both lap top and desktop......what im wondering is what kinda hard drive and processor ya need to run the tight programs...i figure he'll need a few grand to get up and running....he currently doesnt own a computer but wants to dive into the shit, and believe me when he dives its deep, so im thinking he should just get something he can grow into.....but i dont know shit...so please smart feel free to ramble on good man.....
     
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    Smart - Replied Jul 10, 2002

    well, I don't know too much about the Mac side of Audio, but... tell him to stay away from a laptop, pointless and likely underpowered. The desktop with a dual processor is the best platform for any long term studio plans as it has a processor that will remain pretty freakin fast for the next few years. Also, max out the RAM, can't have too much... I suppose the most popular program for Mac is Pro Tools, which is pretty expensive... lemme look around and see what programs I use on PC that have Mac versions too... Ill send you an email when I get it together...
     
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    here's the simple set up...

    get a Mac Tower (G3 800mhz is plenty fast enough)
    A full version of Pro-Tools (can be found for free)
    some kind of audio i/o box like this
    get cubase too (if only for the vst plug-ins)

    then attach a decent mizer that you already have into the loop before the i/o...
    and you're rocking!
     
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    EatMorGlue - Replied Jul 10, 2002

    if anybody could drop more info about PC software or hardware that is good for recording i'd appreciate that as i've been thinking myself about setting something like this up soon, but i've got win98 over here.
     
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    mental invalid - Replied Jul 10, 2002

    cool thanks smart and zes, ill check out my emails....doesnt need to be mac or pc specific.....im just wondering what heads are using out there....ya know like i use a (blank) and this is the software i use.....something that he can research further....i know we got musicans in here....holla
     
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    space - Replied Jul 11, 2002

    definitely should get up on Pro-Tools if you wanna get down on some audio... rock that shit.
     
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    mental invalid - Replied Jul 11, 2002

    bump, cause i know cats like makros or browner or others know some shit.......:idea:
     
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    the best audio software for mac is deck II. similar to pro tools but in my opinion a bit better. but together makes the levels perfect. i'd suggest your friend to take a class somewhere that offers a computer sound studio course and get a copy from the teacher. he should choose his computer based upon how many seperate tracks he plans on having. when recording stuff with my laptop it tends to cut off at around two minutes.
     
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    if you're looking to do pure 'electro-ish' music... there's a great sequencing program called ReBirth.
    It's essentially a software 303, 606, 808, synth, sampler and sequencer all together.

    it's from propellerheads software... a fun time to be had by all!
     
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    Smart - Replied Jul 11, 2002

    actually, I think ReBirth is two 303's, an 808 and a 909... I use it to write all my drum tracks and for some bass lines... then every so often I'll do some super electronic stuff, ReBirth is real fun... I also used Sound Forge as my recording/track editing program then I take everything into Acid or Samplitude...

    Sorry I haven't dropped the mail yet Roe, I got a buncha shit on my plate all of a sudden... so, later tonight or tomorrow for that...
     
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    mental invalid - Replied Jul 11, 2002

    saule goode mr. smart........thanks to everyone else also

    cheers.....me
     
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    control - Replied Jul 11, 2002

    myself, i use acid, soundforge, fruity loops, and rebirth-but all i want is a g4 (the only time a laptop is as good as a desktop-the only difference is storage space, but that's why they make ZIP drives)

    protools is an awesome program, but you need the hardware to take advantage of it, otherwise you might as well be using CuBase or SoundForge (both good progs in their own right), and the full (hard & soft) for protools will cost you close to $10,000, minimum. as far as other equipment, put the money into a VERY good soundcard that has I/O with RCA or 1/4"...

    oh yeah, and do your homework-go to Borders or Barnes & Noble (you get the idea) and read music mags that talk about that kind of thing, read books...blah...blah...blah....
     
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