Weapon X Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 We all know that the Chinese love propaganda. And we all know that Canada has a hard on for the Chinese. The CCP (some shit like Communist Chinese Party) is ready to broadcast a number of channels in Canada, through Rogers, I believe. I can't find any news story, but here is an editorial: Feb. 13. Tony Wong has brought up an important issue to which all Canadians should pay attention. Why should the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) be allowed to use nine channels to broadcast its propaganda and censored version of reality in Canada? If the CCP start broadcasts in Canada, the CRTC will need to hire Chinese language experts to monitor the content of the programming. We cannot trust the CCP to only show entertainment with no political content. The monitors will also need to be sensitive to cultural nuances that can have significance that is not obvious to a Western viewer. For example, few people outside of China would know how the "Same Song" is used to humiliate prisoners after their spirits have been broken by beatings and brainwashing tactics. Although David Purdy (of Rogers Cable) is quoted as saying: "I have never heard a truly compelling argument for blocking channels or censorship," Rogers cable has not added NTDTV, a Chinese Mandarin station that is known for its high quality programming and truthful news reporting, to its roster of stations. You have to ask why would Rogers support the importation of nine CCP stations but not NTDTV, a Chinese language broadcaster based right here in Canada and approved by the CRTC? I hope the CRTC will seriously consider whether anyone really wants the CCP to be polluting our airwaves. Fucked up, man..fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tough Love Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 what the fuck gives why do they get their own channels i mean not just this but in general. Indian, chinese channels fuck off, no one cares. They have as much right for a channel as any other ethnic group. I dont get it i want a japanese channel....so that maybe we can see some cool sports on TV finally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isor357 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 its mere speculation but..... theres 1.35 billion chinese. China is big but not entirely inhabitable. Even if chinese couples are restricted to 1 child.... thats probably 50 million children per year..... First china will try to expand into Australia. Next Alaska then Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.T Boy Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 thats kind of shit. like, if they get chinese tv, shouldnt we all get like british television too? like all bbc all the time? it would make just as much sense. thats fucked, im lit and cannot decide if its cool with me or not. canada is a crazy place sometimes. hard to wrap my head around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightOwl Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 china is going to be a big economic empire soon :shook: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Quickwood Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Originally posted by Weapon X@Feb 17 2006, 01:57 PM And we all know that Canada has a hard on for the Chinese. Quoted post a certain 12oz member has something common with canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasm Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 asian tv channels? this shit's new to you? fucking please... all sorts of ethnic groups have their tv stations, get over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Moms New Boyfriend Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 ^^^ must be a fob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESTHREE Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Originally posted by Weapon X@Feb 17 2006, 12:57 PM We all know that the Chinese love propaganda. And we all know that Canada has a hard on for the Chinese. The CCP (some shit like Communist Chinese Party) is ready to broadcast a number of channels in Canada, through Rogers, I believe. I can't find any news story, but here is an editorial: Feb. 13. Tony Wong has brought up an important issue to which all Canadians should pay attention. Why should the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) be allowed to use nine channels to broadcast its propaganda and censored version of reality in Canada? If the CCP start broadcasts in Canada, the CRTC will need to hire Chinese language experts to monitor the content of the programming. We cannot trust the CCP to only show entertainment with no political content. The monitors will also need to be sensitive to cultural nuances that can have significance that is not obvious to a Western viewer. For example, few people outside of China would know how the "Same Song" is used to humiliate prisoners after their spirits have been broken by beatings and brainwashing tactics. Although David Purdy (of Rogers Cable) is quoted as saying: "I have never heard a truly compelling argument for blocking channels or censorship," Rogers cable has not added NTDTV, a Chinese Mandarin station that is known for its high quality programming and truthful news reporting, to its roster of stations. You have to ask why would Rogers support the importation of nine CCP stations but not NTDTV, a Chinese language broadcaster based right here in Canada and approved by the CRTC? I hope the CRTC will seriously consider whether anyone really wants the CCP to be polluting our airwaves. Fucked up, man..fucked up. Quoted post I dont understand why this is fucked up. I do understand how communbbist china is fucked up and thye problems that exist in that context but there is a huge differenjce here in Canada: Choice. In China people dont have the chpice to choose non partisan programing...but here we can. No one has to watch the ccp channel if they don't want to where as in communist china they were piping propaganda right into peoples bedrooms through loudspeakers. Granted I think subliminal messages and subversive cultural messages that westerners may not be aware of might be hurtfull to some people in Canada but no moreso than the political agendas that already exist in mainstream news and advertising. Free speech is free speech and barring anything that goes against the charter of rights and freedoms we need to allow equal access to media for all groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahyoulose Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Originally posted by isor357@Feb 17 2006, 09:49 PM its mere speculation but..... theres 1.35 billion chinese. China is big but not entirely inhabitable. Even if chinese couples are restricted to 1 child.... thats probably 50 million children per year..... First china will try to expand into Australia. Next Alaska then Canada. Quoted post "then canada"? its not THEN CANADA - its already happened. seriously come to vancouver and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scarekroe Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 CHINA WILL BE THE NEW USA IN THE NEXT FEW DECADES. BEWARE WORLD. ALL YOU SUPER LIBERALS AROUND THE WORLD PROTESTING THE US'S POSITION OF POWER TODAY WILL WISH YOU HAD THE US BACK AS THE SOLE SUPERPOWER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarekroe Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 CHINA WILL BE ABLE TO BOAST A MILITARY OF 200 MILLION SOLDIERS AND BEGIN THEIR WESTWARD EXPANSION, AS WELL AS THEIR INVASION OF THE ISLAND OF TAIWAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasm Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Originally posted by Your Moms New Boyfriend@Feb 18 2006, 03:44 AM ^^^ must be a fob. Quoted post ^^^ must be a racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 I too was wondering how effective the communist propaganda would be in an environment of free speech and free choice. I think it might be quite effective since it is most likely broadcast in their native language of chinese and there may not be comparable programs from chinese-canadian sources. Interesting paradox that canada is now censoring the censors. As for all of these wild fears of a rampantly overpopulating china taking over the world, I wouldn't bet on it. Chinese population levels are projected to go down, not up. 1 child per family is a negative population growth rate since it takes something on the order of 2.1 children per family for population to stay the same. Further complicating this situation is the fact that many female babies have been aborted due to chinese society favoring males. There is now a significantly disproportionate male/female ratio. I don't remember exactly what it is. China still has plenty of manpower to drive on it's economic prosperity and growth, however complicating this is it's increased need for energy since it has outgrown it's own domestic coal supply 2 or 3 years ago, the pressure is already being felt on world markets and the price of oil is projected to continue to rise and potentially collapse the world market if we remain dependent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D0WN Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Originally posted by Weapon X@Feb 17 2006, 03:57 PM Fucked up, man..fucked up. Quoted post This isn't the first time you've expressed hatred towards Asians. We get your point. I'd like to hear your reasons though. So why the hate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fondles Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 oh no their own channel! *gasp* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Moms New Boyfriend Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Originally posted by sarcasm+Feb 18 2006, 11:00 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sarcasm - Feb 18 2006, 11:00 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Your Moms New Boyfriend@Feb 18 2006, 03:44 AM ^^^ must be a fob. Quoted post ^^^ must be a racist. Quoted post [/b] yes didnt you see my describe yourself in two words post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gat Bush Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 We dont take kindly to you types round here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.T Boy Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 free speech is free speech. but what is in good taste? who knows. i dont know who would watch communist tv, other than me and ese for its awesomeness value. i mean, if someone was so inclined to watch it, but live here, why would they not move back to china? everyone is so eager to jump on communism and how evil it is, when the the underlying idea of it, is so good. i mean, capitalism is working out so well for the majority of us isnt it? debt, small amount of people with money, people like walmart putting loacl business out of business and taking the shop owners and throwing them in a blue pinnie. but fuck communism right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESTHREE Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 I agree...that some things are in poor taste....but thats according to me. I cant really prescribe what 'poor taste' is in general. I agree that there are prenty of things much worse than communism to worry about. I dont think communism is even the real issue here, I mean.... we have a communist party in canada so it isnt as if this chinese channel is going to usher in some new thretenting force or anything....the CPC is a legit political party already anyhow.... The real issue is who gets to decide what groups get access to air time and which dont and what dictates who gets what? I guess it works as it always has...whoever can afford it can buy media time. That, to me, is the real issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumPuncher Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 hey mesthree... you get that email (re: the video with your piece in it) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isor357 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Originally posted by sarahyoulose+Feb 18 2006, 11:40 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sarahyoulose - Feb 18 2006, 11:40 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-isor357@Feb 17 2006, 09:49 PM its mere speculation but..... theres 1.35 billion chinese. China is big but not entirely inhabitable. Even if chinese couples are restricted to 1 child.... thats probably 50 million children per year..... First china will try to expand into Australia. Next Alaska then Canada. Quoted post "then canada"? its not THEN CANADA - its already happened. seriously come to vancouver and see Quoted post [/b] i meant forcefully. I wouldnt mind having more asian girls around. Whats wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Moms New Boyfriend Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 speaking of communists.... wheres ese? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarekroe Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 does Vancouver got more Asians than San Francisco? Or Honolulu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumPuncher Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Vancover gets the young and working Chinese. Honolulu cant support the jobs that Vancover does. sorry... Hongcover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 You're all forgetting that my boy Big Steve Massive is in charge now. Some slant-eyed commie trying to play by his own rules? Nigga don't play that. Darkies, too. And fags, you're all next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumPuncher Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 ^ damn dazzle.... you've never said anything that funny before (if you're bieng ironic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumPuncher Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 oh snapszzzz....... it's a Dazzle's hero! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Hahaha what a guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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