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CCTV and Police Surveilance?!

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by NATO, Mar 21, 2002.

  1. NATO

    NATO Guest

    im not sure how big an issue this is in the US. but here in little old england (especially my home town) it seems like the public is under constant observation from 'the man'. dont get me wrong im all for safer streets, but at what cost? in my area CCTV covers your every move camera casings are deliberatley camouflaged against the public and private buildings that they are fixed too. my main fears are that this is a foundation for a police 'big brother' state, especially with the falling cost of cameras, 'stealth' anti terrorism laws and the attitude "if you have nothing to hide what are you worried about?"

    i was just wondering how do other people feel?


    (strange when i took this they didn't seem to happy about being photographed)

  2. footsoldier

    footsoldier Senior Member

    Joined: May 23, 2000 Messages: 1,885 Likes Received: 2
    privacy is a thing of the past.. fucked up.. whenever im walking in the woods i just think about how long its going to be til they start hiding microphones there too.
  3. Pistol

    Pistol Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 12, 2001 Messages: 19,367 Likes Received: 299
    I hate those ones at instersection to catch people going through red lights. I hate going to downtown Sand Diego cause they got 'em and I have to make sure I don't get caught slippin'.
  4. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 15, 2001 Messages: 7,578 Likes Received: 3
    its not nearly as bad in the US or Canada as it is in the UK/europe........but its trying to get there . ive seen how it is over their on tv , and it just is amazing , theres cameras on every street corner , and these little police booths on the sidewalks , i mean security is one thing but thtas just too much ......

    the problem with so much cameras is that it doesnt really solve the crime issues in that area , it may slow it down a bit , but it more so just pushes it into another area with less/no security , which doesnt solve the problem but just pushes it on someone else .

    and while its true that the "if you have nothing to hide what are you worried about?" attitude is applicable , its not that simple . bc if that were the case then we'd have cameras and metal detectors and security everywhere , but i doubt that ppl would agree with that .i feel that its more of an invasion of privacy , and against my rights than anything else.
  5. fiberoptical

    fiberoptical New Jack

    Joined: Apr 26, 2001 Messages: 31 Likes Received: 0
    The Panopticon prinicple implies that if you feel like you are being watched at all times, you will act accordingly and submissive.It creates a feeling of control..

    These are popping up everywhere in the states.Soon there is talk of linking these up with biometric cameras that scan your features, and runthese against a dtatbase of "criminals" and when one is spotted, the police are notified.

    I have spoke a few times on this...they have them now on buses and trains along with microphones that record what you say...

    GEORGE ORWELL would be amazed that this is not 1984, but 2002.

    A sad state of affairs...
  6. NATO

    NATO Guest

    i feel that the right to protest is going to be seriously compromised by this. 'subversives' can be captured on film for later reference.
  7. Dr. Dazzle

    Dr. Dazzle Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 19, 2001 Messages: 8,147 Likes Received: 3
    The shit they have nowadays is scary.....
  8. blink_ATX

    blink_ATX Guest

    fuck that shit

    you english bastards are always the first to do dumb shit like that involving big government increases. I mean like who wrote 1984 and a brave new world???

    hmmm two british fucks

    so you bastards need to back off us and shit

    fuck the un and wto
  9. Dr. Dazzle

    Dr. Dazzle Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 19, 2001 Messages: 8,147 Likes Received: 3
    once again, another valuable contribution from blink......
  10. blink_ATX

    blink_ATX Guest

  11. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 15, 2001 Messages: 7,578 Likes Received: 3
    so what if its true or not , its the way you said it thats offensive , chill out guy and contribute something productive for once.
  12. blink_ATX

    blink_ATX Guest

    okay pal


    but dont cry to me when you have to go through 18 chekpoints to get to work.


    lord Ka0s
  13. iCEBERG

    iCEBERG Senior Member

    Joined: Oct 22, 2001 Messages: 2,039 Likes Received: 0
  14. blink_ATX

    blink_ATX Guest

    lord Ka0s has a posse
  15. Smart

    Smart Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 14, 2000 Messages: 17,017 Likes Received: 178
    lord ka0s is a goober