Guest NATO Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 im not sure how big an issue this is in the US. but here in little old england (especially my home town) it seems like the public is under constant observation from 'the man'. dont get me wrong im all for safer streets, but at what cost? in my area CCTV covers your every move camera casings are deliberatley camouflaged against the public and private buildings that they are fixed too. my main fears are that this is a foundation for a police 'big brother' state, especially with the falling cost of cameras, 'stealth' anti terrorism laws and the attitude "if you have nothing to hide what are you worried about?" i was just wondering how do other people feel? http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00164922f00000046.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00164922f00000047.jpg'> (strange when i took this they didn't seem to happy about being photographed) http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00164922f00000048.jpg'> banksy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footsoldier Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 privacy is a thing of the past.. fucked up.. whenever im walking in the woods i just think about how long its going to be til they start hiding microphones there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 I hate those ones at instersection to catch people going through red lights. I hate going to downtown Sand Diego cause they got 'em and I have to make sure I don't get caught slippin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 its not nearly as bad in the US or Canada as it is in the UK/europe........but its trying to get there . ive seen how it is over their on tv , and it just is amazing , theres cameras on every street corner , and these little police booths on the sidewalks , i mean security is one thing but thtas just too much ...... the problem with so much cameras is that it doesnt really solve the crime issues in that area , it may slow it down a bit , but it more so just pushes it into another area with less/no security , which doesnt solve the problem but just pushes it on someone else . and while its true that the "if you have nothing to hide what are you worried about?" attitude is applicable , its not that simple . bc if that were the case then we'd have cameras and metal detectors and security everywhere , but i doubt that ppl would agree with that .i feel that its more of an invasion of privacy , and against my rights than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiberoptical Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 The Panopticon prinicple implies that if you feel like you are being watched at all times, you will act accordingly and submissive.It creates a feeling of control.. These are popping up everywhere in the states.Soon there is talk of linking these up with biometric cameras that scan your features, and runthese against a dtatbase of "criminals" and when one is spotted, the police are notified. BIG BROTHER IS HERE. I have spoke a few times on this...they have them now on buses and trains along with microphones that record what you say... GEORGE ORWELL would be amazed that this is not 1984, but 2002. A sad state of affairs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NATO Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 i feel that the right to protest is going to be seriously compromised by this. 'subversives' can be captured on film for later reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 The shit they have nowadays is scary..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blink_ATX Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 fuck that shit you english bastards are always the first to do dumb shit like that involving big government increases. I mean like who wrote 1984 and a brave new world??? hmmm two british fucks so you bastards need to back off us and shit fuck the un and wto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 once again, another valuable contribution from blink...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blink_ATX Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 whatever its true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 so what if its true or not , its the way you said it thats offensive , chill out guy and contribute something productive for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blink_ATX Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 okay pal whatever but dont cry to me when you have to go through 18 chekpoints to get to work. out lord Ka0s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCEBERG Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 No OnE MessEs WiTH L0RD Ka0S@!#!@!@# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blink_ATX Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 lord Ka0s has a posse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 lord ka0s is a goober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukeofyork Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 ha ha ha ha.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.T Boy Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 eventually those cameras wll be destroyed, just push people too far and watch what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NATO Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Originally posted by T.T Boy eventually those cameras wll be destroyed, just push people too far and watch what happens. too right come the revolution im gonna be chucking bricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sectorTVA Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 i hate those fuckers.....i hate being watched...i avoid any camera that i can see as much as possible...as for making the streets safer....im not too sure about that....people still rob convinience stores, with or without cameras....youd have to check the correlation between installed cameras and the rise/fall of criminal activity to really be sure....im sure they deter some criminal activity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REGULATOR Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 you should see the cameras they put on the mass transit vehicles here....kids smash em, write all over them, scribe the plastic covers, the whole deal...being watched sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NATO Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Originally posted by sectorTVA i hate those fuckers.....i hate being watched...i avoid any camera that i can see as much as possible...as for making the streets safer....im not too sure about that....people still rob convinience stores, with or without cameras....youd have to check the correlation between installed cameras and the rise/fall of criminal activity to really be sure....im sure they deter some criminal activity... i agree it wont stop the more determined criminal, it will drive crime elsewhere. as for avoiding the cameras its got to the point where i feel like walking down the street in a balaclava. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NATO Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 http://www.undercurrents.org/images/mt.jpg'> mindless authority figures in control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blink_ATX Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 fuck all auhtority i gotta a gaoddm ticket again i think that makes like 10 for the year 2002 fuck the law and all thire sicophant subsidiaries im so sick to death of these motherfuckers who think a badge and a gun gives them some sort power to judge each individual. mother fuckers fuck them im gonna go kill myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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