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Cannibalism is not a crime under German law.

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by beardo, Dec 4, 2003.

  1. beardo

    beardo Guest


    KASSEL, Germany (AFP) - A self-declared cannibal told a German court in chilling detail how he killed and ate a man he says consented to be dissected and consumed in front of a running video camera.

    In matter-of-fact tones in front of a hushed court Wednesday, Armin Meiwes explained how an obsession with cannibalism developed as a child and eventually led him to kill and eat a fellow human being.

    "I had the fantasy, and in the end I fulfilled it," he said.

    He had the chance to kill and feast on other apparently willing victims, he added, saying "hundreds and thousands are out there looking to be eaten," but passed up the opportunity because they were not the right type.

    The macabre case is unprecedented in German legal history.

    Meiwes, a 42-year-old computer technician who says he regrets what he did, admits killing, but insists it was not murder as he was only doing what he had been asked.

    Testifying on the opening day of his trial for murder, he said his fantasy began between the ages of eight and 12, when he would imagine killing, carving up and eating schoolfriends he liked.

    Meiwes, dressed smartly in a dark jacket and tie, said he felt lonely as a child after his father and two older brothers abandoned the family.

    He longed for a younger brother. "But then I realised one day that was not enough." He soon began imagining a friend he could keep for ever by consuming him.

    "Slim and blond, that would have been the type," he said.

    It also aroused him sexually, Meiwes admitted, although he denied that sex was linked to the alleged murder.

    "I didn't want to have sex with the partner I chose to slaughter. That had nothing to do with it."

    Horror films and seeing animals slaughtered fuelled his imagination.

    Cannibalism is not a crime under German law. Meiwes is charged with murder for the purposes of sexual satisfaction and "disturbing the peace of the dead" for carving up the body.

    State prosecutor Marcus Koehler claimed Meiwes had always intended to kill and that he took advantage of a mental disorder in the dead man, Bernd Juergen Brandes.

    If convicted, he faces life in prison. A verdict is due early next year.

    Defence lawyers say Meiwes is guilty at worst of "killing on demand," which is punishable by up to five years in jail.

    Meiwes, who has admitted killing, said he contacted Brandes, a 43-year-old Berlin engineer, after advertising via the Internet for someone willing to be eaten.

    The whole scenario was recorded on video, reportedly by mutual agreement.

    Brandes travelled to his house in Rotenburg, near Kassel, after settling up his personal affairs. At one point he demurred but was persuaded to carry on, the prosecution said.

    After Brandes downed sleeping tablets and whisky, Meiwes cut off Brandes' penis which they planned to eat together, but found that due to its consistency, it was inedible "even when fried."

    After a while Brandes became unconscious. "Spurred by sexual motives," said Koehler, Meiwes laid him on a bench, stabbed him and hung his body from a hook in the ceiling of his kitchen.

    The accused said he kissed his "friend" first, "then I did it."

    He dissected the corpse, slicing off 30 kilograms (66 pounds) of the flesh which he stored in a freezer. He later ate two-thirds of it. "With every bite, my memory of him grew stronger."

    The case did not emerge until an Austrian student spotted another Internet advertisement by Meiwes and alerted police.

    Officers who examined a mass of computer equipment and videos found at his home tapped into a hitherto hidden cannibal scene.

    Meiwes said he later met five other people who had also offered themselves via the Internet.

    One wanted to be beheaded, but Meiwes did not like him and thought him too fat. Another backed out when the accused told him, "if you come here, you have to realise that it will be for the last time."
  2. Poop Man Bob

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    DETO Dirty Dozen Crew

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  4. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Veteran Member

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    I think it's the same story I heard about a year ago.

    the deal:

    German cannibal meets german death-fetishist on the internet.
    Death-fetish guy signs a contract that he thinks will keep the cannibal
    out of prison after the death (a letter of consent). The cannibal fills the
    guy up with pain killers then cuts off his cock and cooks it up for both
    of them to eat. Then the guy takes a lethal injection and the cannibal
    cuts him up for leftovers. Eventually cops arrive after tracking their
    web communications, and the cannibal says 'It's ok, he told me I could'.
    Cops say... sorry sicko... doesn't work that way.
  5. !@#$%

    [email protected]#$% Moderator Crew

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    'killing on demand' punishable by up to 5 years

    ...remind me i never want to go to germany
  6. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Veteran Member

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    I dont think I could ever forget that... unless it's oktoberfest time!
  7. Pinup

    Pinup Senior Member

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    you'd be impressed at the amount of wiggers down there
  8. old*824

    old*824 Senior Member

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    cannibalism is wack.
  9. grandmaster

    grandmaster Member

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    hahahahahaha most def
  10. sneak

    sneak Guest

    i told a few ppl at work today about that...one of the girls almost threw up when it got to the penis part..

    who the fuck is gonna let some one chop you FUCKING PENIS off and then fry it and eat it with you? i mean what is the world coming to..

    *damn germans*
  11. Smart

    Smart Dirty Dozen Crew

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    You know, I didn't think I'd find a commonality between myself and either of these guys but, I feel the exact same way about penis:
  12. old*824

    old*824 Senior Member

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    that is the most disgusting thing i can recall reading in my entire life.
  13. Spike

    Spike Senior Member

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    I just can't figure out death-fetishists.
  14. igor

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    I'm from germany, this case is on the news here.
    That guy is not going to get away with "killing on demand", because he was actively seeking a victim on the internet. The victim wanted to be killed which means it isn't murder either. They now plead for "Totschlag", i'm not sure what the american equivalent would be. But it's a bit like murder, but less harsh. I think he'll get up to 15 years.
    The "killing on demand"-law was made for people who truly suffer from some real bad pain for years and are too weak to commit suicide or can't do it because they are paralyzed.
    The whole canibalism-case is so damn weird.

    Yes, we do have a lot of wiggers here.
  15. sounds a bit equivalent to manslaughter.