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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by A Fire Inside, Dec 17, 2001.

  1. A Fire Inside

    A Fire Inside Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 5, 2001 Messages: 1,836 Likes Received: 0
    I've been into photography for a while, and take a camera with me everywhere I go, unfortunately I've never had money for a good camera. Can someone please suggest a good camera for an amatuer... that isn't too expensive.
    I was looking at the Cannon EOS Rebel 2000.

    EL MASKO Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 30, 2001 Messages: 4,733 Likes Received: 0
    Like I've said...Lieca. Get a Pentax or Cannon.
  3. mental invalid

    mental invalid Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 11, 2001 Messages: 13,050 Likes Received: 8
    ...i gotta a classic cannon AE II...if i were you, id goto a pawn shop, and find a camera there....i dont really like shit with autozoom all made of plastic....plus you can get a great deal on lenses, filters, etc....r
  4. I got a Canon EOS 300.
    Its about 350$.
    Works great.

    Or get a Leica....haha
  5. drinktheblood

    drinktheblood Member

    Joined: Feb 21, 2001 Messages: 441 Likes Received: 0
    if you're out to learn about photography you can't go wrong with the canonet gIII ql17, but you'll need to find one that's been converted from mercury batteries to silver batteries. if you're a beginner there's this book from the seventies [i think] that Time Life put out called the camera, they're about $6 at a used book store, you'd be doing yourself a big favor if you bought one and read it once or twice. don't go for a new in the box camera, you'll only be wasting your money. forget about the newer autofocus SLRs if you want to learn about photography, and get a handheld meter if you get a chance. there's a ton of good information at www.cameraquest.com
  6. drinktheblood

    drinktheblood Member

    Joined: Feb 21, 2001 Messages: 441 Likes Received: 0
    where are all you guys getting leicas? are you guys talking M4 or IIIc? i've got a hasselblad, but that's for work. i guess this list is full of doctors and lawyers.
  7. Drinktheblood, i got this one http://www.cameraquest.com/zikontc.htm
    You seem to know stuff, do you have any links to share in order to find the value of that camera or even sell it online?
    Thanx in advance,

    BTW, hasselblads are beauties
  8. drinktheblood

    drinktheblood Member

    Joined: Feb 21, 2001 Messages: 441 Likes Received: 0
    you could e-mail stephen gandy, they guy that puts camerquest together and he'll let you know what it's worth right now and he might offer you some thing for it too, his e-mail is [email protected] there's also a rangefinder mailing list that's VERY active, [about 15 posts a day usually], and if you asked them they'd give you a good idea of wht it's worth, and i'm sure you coul sell it on there too. there's information on joining the list here http://www.cameraquest.com/rflist.htm i'm sure you'll find what you need from those two places. before you sell it, it's sometimes a good idea to see what they've been going for on ebay, but all the people on the list are doing that too, so you'll get about the same from them. so do you like using it? i've heard they're very nice, unfortunately i've never owned a working zeiss folder. it must be a VERY nice, mobile way to shoot medium format.

    there are also a few rangefinder news groups and a zeiss group on yahoo, but i don't know much more than that about them.
  9. Thanx man, thats all the info i needed.

    I only shot 2 films with that camera, one color slide and one negative B&W. The photos were great as far as i can tell.
    The thing is that i use photography as a tool, i aint looking at it professionaly, i just want to take decent photos of whatever i want to shot. So usually depending on what i deal with i ask around for tips/techniques and i get pretty much the result i want.
    I'm thinking of selling this camera one year now and i cant really decide.
    On one hand i understand that this camera is a fucking legend that i'm proud to own and use and on the other hand, practictly speaking, it aint such a nececity for my needs.(I ussualy shot with a Canon EOS300, which might be a piece of shit professionaly speaking, but it gets the job done for me.
    I aint the guy with the big bank account so its a dilema.
    Either i stick with quality and also learn photography with a great tool in my hands or buy that OLYMPUS 3040 and save a shitload of money from developing films plus i get instant pics...

    What do you say?
  10. EL MASKO

    EL MASKO Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 30, 2001 Messages: 4,733 Likes Received: 0
    I got a Pentax ZX-M...

  11. imported_MoeLarryCurly

    imported_MoeLarryCurly Member

    Joined: Jul 18, 2001 Messages: 375 Likes Received: 0
    drink the blood-i tihnk you are talking about the silver oxide batteries tha are used today as opposed to the old mercury ones..well if you are able to find a place such as a good camera shop the battery i got for my nice old pentax was a silver oxide but it had a little plastic ring around it i guess to make it fit in where the mercury battery went in the camera for the light meter.
    anyways if new york city isnt far from you Olden Camera is a very very very good place to go you will found almost anything you will need for an old camera.i picked up some 620 film for my old argus camera and i got a reasonably priced fish-eye lense that i can put on my video camera and pentax camera
    well worth it to check out they have a wide variety of used equipment and new and the used equipment is rated, also i personally feel ebay is the place to get accessories for the camera i would much rather buy a camera not from ebay but that didnt stop me from buying my two Super8 video cameras,one of which doesnt work.i have bored you all by now. goodnight
  12. drinktheblood

    drinktheblood Member

    Joined: Feb 21, 2001 Messages: 441 Likes Received: 0
    i'm just not a big digital fan, so i guess i'm the wrong person to ask. the camera you own now is a very well respected piece of equipment, there are very few people who know about photography that would say otherwise. if you're dead set on digital, i'm no help because i've only used the gear that's been around work. i will tell you this, it'll be a long, long time before ANY resonably priced [under $3,000] digital camera can touch the resolution and image quality of medium format. i'd run a few more rolls of film with your folder before you give it up, i think it might grow on you. you could always sell your folder and get a low res. digital and a used manual SLR, or even a nice rangefinder. really, it all depends on what you'll use the most.
  13. drinktheblood

    drinktheblood Member

    Joined: Feb 21, 2001 Messages: 441 Likes Received: 0
    yes and no. the mercury batteries these cameras were designed around are 1.35v and the newer silver oxide batteries are 1.5v. the "air cell" batteries that Wein and a lot of other companies produce, [the batteries with the ring that you mentioned], are still 1.5v so you have to either manually set your film speed to compensate for the effect the battery is having on the meter or you can have a repairman set your meter to read correctly using the 1.5v charge. in all fairness, this won't have much of an effect on slower print film, [a lot of slower print films are actually VERY forgiving], but if you shoot B+W or transparencies you'll definately need to make up for it some where. i heard from a repairman i used to see a lot that the canonet is very sensitive to the change in voltage, but the pentax spotmatic is still pretty close when you use a 1.5v battery. this didn't make ANY sense to me, but he swears it's true.

    i have taken it to a new level of borring, sorry.
  14. LeopoldBloom

    LeopoldBloom New Jack

    Joined: Nov 6, 2001 Messages: 63 Likes Received: 0
    When I was 11, that's all of 15 years ago, my parents gave me a used Pentax K-1000. I still use it to this day. That motherfucker doubles as a hammer and a weapon when you need one and it's a trooper. I've dropped it countless times and even had it fall out of a third floor window with nothing but a smashed filter.

    Utilitarian design all the way.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd kill for any of those high-end jobbers. Even a middle of the road medium format would be great. But give me a $50 120mm camera and I can work wonders... for example: lubitel-resource.tripod.com. Don't sleep on those communists.
  15. Rodney Trotter

    Rodney Trotter Senior Member

    Joined: Aug 23, 2001 Messages: 1,683 Likes Received: 1
    Pentax ME Super. Nice camera. Very versatile. Lets you do everthing you'd want to with an SLR. If you just want a camera that you can slip in your pocket, take everywhere, and use for snaps, get an Olympus Zoom 80 or something.