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Burma and Aung San Suu Kyi

Discussion in 'News' started by serum, Sep 26, 2007.

  1. serum

    serum Elite Member

    Joined: Aug 9, 2000 Messages: 4,200 Likes Received: 138
    wow 5 guests in here.

  2. serum

    serum Elite Member

    Joined: Aug 9, 2000 Messages: 4,200 Likes Received: 138
    Burmese monks 'to be sent away'

    Monks are absent, but people in Rangoon are going about their lives
    Thousands of monks detained in Burma's main city of Rangoon will be sent to prisons in the far
    north of the country, sources have told the BBC.
    About 4,000 monks have been rounded up in the past week as the military government has tried to
    stamp out pro-democracy protests.

    They are being held at a disused race course and a technical college.

    Sources from a government-sponsored militia said they would soon be moved away from Rangoon.

    The monks have been disrobed and shackled, the sources told BBC radio's Burmese service. There
    are reports that the monks are refusing to eat.

    The country has seen almost two weeks of sustained popular unrest, in the most serious challenge to
    the military leadership for more than two decades.

    Their eyes are on the international community, their only hope is that the world will see their plight
    and help them
    A Buddhist activist

    The authorities said 10 people were killed as the protests were dispersed, though diplomats and
    activists say the number of dead was many times higher.

    The banned opposition broadcaster Democratic Voice of Burma has issued a picture which they say
    shows the body of a monk floating near the mouth of the Rangoon river.

    Last week several monasteries were raided, and there were reports of monks being beaten and

    With many monks behind bars, the demonstrations have now died down.

    On Monday, the centre of Rangoon was almost back to normal, a reporter, who cannot be identified
    for security reasons, told the BBC.

    Most shops and temples have reopened and people appear to be getting on with their lives. But
    there seemed to be a group of soldiers around every corner, and very few monks about, the reporter

    This is notable in a city where monks can usually be spotted going in and out of temples, shopping
    at street stalls and chatting in tea shops.

    Monks were reportedly killed (Image: Democratic Voice of Burma)

    The atmosphere in Rangoon is tense, the reporter said. Local people are well aware that the monks
    have been locked away and are afraid that they will be next.

    The crackdown, in which unarmed protesters were beaten, tear-gassed, and shot at, has attracted
    condemnation from abroad, and even from Burma's neighbours in the Association of South East
    Asian Nations (Asean).

    Envoy still waiting

    As well as preventing the demonstrations, the military junta has tried to block news of the unrest
    filtering out. Troops are stopping young men on the streets and in cars, searching for cameras that
    may be used to smuggle out images.

    Most internet links are still down and mobile phone networks disrupted.

    Foreign news outlets are scorned by Burmese state TV

    Official media has been warning Burmese people against co-operating with or using foreign news

    A TV message on Monday referred to the BBC, Voice of America and Radio Free Asia as "assassins
    on air".

    UN special envoy Ibrahim Gambari was set to meet Burma's military leader General Than Shwe on
    Tuesday, officials said.

    On Saturday, when Mr Gambari travelled to the new capital Naypidaw, he was allowed to meet only
    more junior members of the government.

    On Sunday, Mr Gambari held talks with detained opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi in Rangoon -
    the first foreigner to be permitted to do so for 10 months.
  3. serum

    serum Elite Member

    Joined: Aug 9, 2000 Messages: 4,200 Likes Received: 138
    ok wow now theres like 14 guests in here. too weird.

    if you guys support the burmese monks and happen to stumble in here through the net
    thanks for coming and lets hope that the myanmar military all simultaneously explode
    for some unexplained reason. peace is then completely restored to burma and
    aung san suu kyi is freed.

    since im paranoid because ive never seen more than a handful of people in here...

    if you guys are from the myanmar military and are reading this you guys can lick the balls.
    said in an epmd like fashion. you guys should free everyone and all jump on the nearest landmine
    ok thanks.
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2007
  4. serum

    serum Elite Member

    Joined: Aug 9, 2000 Messages: 4,200 Likes Received: 138
    incase english isnt your first language


    your heads
  5. KM4RT

    KM4RT Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 20, 2007 Messages: 6,888 Likes Received: 489
    its rough that the junta are cracking down on the peaceful protesters.
    hopefully the UN or even China will step in soon to do something about the violence. its pretty sad that monks are getting killed and arrested for protesting.

    and yea there's a lot of guests on here.
    must be the secret government spies using the all powerful 12oz to gather intelligence.
    they should be in the reptilians thread, thats where the action is.
  6. Qawee

    Qawee Elite Member

    Joined: Apr 9, 2006 Messages: 3,420 Likes Received: 155
    *slick rick
  7. smooth bruce

    smooth bruce Banned

    Joined: Apr 15, 2006 Messages: 286 Likes Received: 4
    Goodluck to the Myanmar people
  8. serum

    serum Elite Member

    Joined: Aug 9, 2000 Messages: 4,200 Likes Received: 138
    what i meant was get the bozack

  9. serum

    serum Elite Member

    Joined: Aug 9, 2000 Messages: 4,200 Likes Received: 138
    Monks 'seeking to flee Rangoon'

    Many monks are desperate to leave Rangoon, witnesses say
    Scores of monks are trying to leave Burma's main city, Rangoon, following the military's bloody
    crackdown on anti-government protests, reports say.
    Witnesses said many monks were at the railway station, while bus drivers were said to be refusing
    to take them out of fear they would not be allowed petrol.

    Hundreds of people have now been detained, with more arrests overnight.

    A UN envoy is preparing a key report on his talks with Burma's leaders amid global concern over the

    The envoy, Ibrahim Gambari, met top military leaders to voice concern over the violence. He also
    met pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi.

    He is expected to brief both UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and the Security Council later this

    Missing monks

    Mr Gambari was despatched to Burma last week after police and soldiers used violence to halt
    almost two weeks of anti-government protests.

    Exiles in desperate conditions

    The authorities said 10 people were killed, although diplomats and activists believe the number of
    dead is many times higher.

    Hundreds of monks - who led the protests - have been detained and sources have told the BBC they
    will be sent to prisons in the far north of the country.

    Other protesters are also said to be missing.

    Reports from Rangoon said around 25 more monks were arrested by security forces in a raid on a
    temple overnight.

    Witnesses reported many monks stranded at bus stations, unable to get out of the city, and few
    monks were seen on the streets.

    Rangoon was said to be quiet, with troops maintaining a heavy presence and warning protesters to
    stay away. An eyewitness there said that people seemed very scared.

    On Tuesday the UN's top human rights official, Louise Arbour, called on the junta to give "precise
    and verifiable information" on the number of dead and injured as well as "the whereabouts and
    condition of those who have been arrested".

    Army defector

    Meanwhile, footage has emerged of a Burmese army officer who fled to Thailand in the first apparent defection since the crackdown.

    The officer, whose unit was ordered to Rangoon to deal with the protests, said he did not want to
    beat or shoot monks - who are revered in Burmese society.

    "I knew the plan to beat and shoot the monks and if I stayed on, I would have to follow these
    orders. Because I'm a Buddhist, I did not want to kill the monks," he said.

    The officer is now seeking asylum abroad.

    The BBC's Chris Hogg says that this is a rare split in the ranks which dissident groups will attempt to
    exploit as evidence that some younger officers are opposed to the brutal crackdown by the country's

    So far, though, there is no sign that others are prepared to follow his lead, our correspondent says.
  10. Ko SprueOne

    Ko SprueOne Senior Member

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    she's back in lock up. "Insien" Prison no less
  11. Ko SprueOne

    Ko SprueOne Senior Member

    Joined: May 8, 2004 Messages: 1,649 Likes Received: 112
    The american visitor incident cost her 18 more months in house arrest.
  12. christo-f

    christo-f Veteran Member

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    The other ASEAN members are looking to get together to make an official request for a pardon.
  13. Ko SprueOne

    Ko SprueOne Senior Member

    Joined: May 8, 2004 Messages: 1,649 Likes Received: 112
    They've been trying that for years

    So, John Yettaw goes home. He was incarcerated since May, but gets to go home after trespassing into Suu Kyi's house. She is already on thin ice with the Junta and then dude get's her busted again. Read somewhere that he was trying to get the book of Mormon to her. She gets 18 additional months and the trespasser goes free.


    I guess he couldn't ride his bike on water ...

  14. christo-f

    christo-f Veteran Member

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    The EU placed pressure on ASEAN recently to push Myanmar, there has been a significant increase in the regularity and tone in ASEAN members making public calls for action by the Burmese Govt. Also, ASEAN has never before made a collective call to another member for anything. It almost goes against the ASEAN policy of non-interference.

    I seriously hope some one gives that Yetaw dickhead a hard smack in the mouth.
  15. christo-f

    christo-f Veteran Member

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    ASEAN mulls Suu Kyi amnesty call: Indonesia

    15 mins ago
    JAKARTA (AFP) – Senior Asian officials met in Indonesia on Thursday to discuss issuing an unprecedented call for amnesty forMyanmar democracy icon Aung San Suu Kyi, Indonesia's foreign ministry said.
    The officials from the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), which includes Myanmar, were considering a "joint appeal" for Suu Kyi's release from house arrest, ministry spokesman Teuku Faizasyah said.
    The appeal could be in the form of a letter to the Myanmar junta, which recently extended the Nobel Peace laureate's confinement for 18 months after a trial widely seen as a sham.
    "From what I remember, this would be the first such joint appeal for amnesty," Faizasyah told AFP.
    "We don't know what form it will take. It could be in the form of letter to Myanmar, but they will have to discuss this."
    Any such appeal would signal a toughening of the bloc's attitude toward the junta and would be a significant departure from ASEAN's much-criticised principle of non-interference in members' internal affairs, analysts said.
    "To my knowledge, this is a first for ASEAN. The effort is unusual and a step forward," Singapore Institute of International Affairs chairman Simon Tay said.
    "They will not expel Myanmar or sanction it -- not yet -- but they will not sit impassively if the regime continues to act in this manner... If followed up, and the regime does respond, it can signal a diplomatic opening."
    Thailand said last Friday it was pushing for a consensus among member states to ask Myanmar's military rulers to pardon Suu Kyi. Faizasyah said the initiative also had the full support of the Indonesian government.
    Suu Kyi led her National League for Democracy to a landslide victory in elections in 1990, but the junta has refused to recognise the result and has kept her locked away in her lakeside home for 14 of the subsequent years.
    As well as Myanmar, ASEAN also groups Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.