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Birthday parties have pagan roots

Discussion in 'News' started by Dawood, Aug 13, 2005.

  1. Dawood

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    Birthday parties have pagan roots

    Discussion started by Dawood - Aug 13, 2005

    Since I'm the grinch and I like to spoil all the fun, I figured I'd share this one with you too.

    How Birthday Parties Began


    This was a forwarded message that I thought was interesting. Showing the pagan roots of this practice........

    How Birthday Parties Started Around the world, friends and relatives hold birthday parties, give gifts to the o­ne being honored, and wish "Happy birthday!" to the o­ne whose birthday is being celebrated. But why? Where did this universal custom originate?

    The World Book -- Childcraft International says regarding "Holidays and Birthdays," "For thousands of years people all over the world have thought of a birthday as a very special day. Long ago, people believed that o­n a birthday a person could be helped by good spirits, or hurt by evil spirits. So, when a person had a birthday, friends and relatives gathered to protect him or her. And that's how birthday parties began."

    "The idea of putting candles o­n birthday cakes goes back to ancient Greece. The Greeks worshipped many gods and goddesses. Among them was o­ne called Artemis." "Artemis was the goddess of the moon. The Greeks celebrated her birthday o­nce each month by bringing special cakes to her temple. The cakes were round like a full moon. And, because the moon glows with light, the cakes were decorated with lighted candles."

    The Greeks believed that everyone had a protective spirit or demon who attended his birth and watched over him in life. This spirit had a mystic relation with the god o­n whose birthday the individual was born.

    The Romans also subscribed to this idea. This notion was carried down in human belief and is reflected in the guardian angel, the fairy godmother and the patron saint. Birthday candles, in folk belief, are endowed with special magic for granting wishes. Lighted tapers and sacrificial fires have had a special mystic significance ever since man first set up altars to his gods. The birthday candles are thus an honor and tribute to the birthday child and bring good fortune.

    This authority goes o­n: "More and more, though, people the world over attach a certain magic to their actual date of birth...We may wear a ring with our birthstone in it for good luck. And when we blow out the candles o­n our birthday cake, we are careful to keep what we wished a secret. If we tell, of course, our wish won't come true."

    "In other words, Many times o­ne follows - THE OLD BIRTHDAY BELIEFS. o­ne pays attention to the meanings of old-time birth symbols and indulges in OLD CELEBRATIONS. o­ne does not take them seriously - mainly for fun.

    Why do people say, "Happy birthday!" to each other? Says this authority, "For the good wishes of our friends and relatives are supposed to protect us from evil spirits."


    Egyptians observed birthdays, but o­nly for their rulers. They held parades, circuses, gladiatorial contests, and sumptuous feasts! The Romans staged parades and chariot races to celebrate birthdays; some of which were created for their gods. Mere mortals were not honored or even remembered o­n the day of their birth.
    The birthday cake is o­nly 200 years old! Cakes made from sweetened bread dough and coated with sugar, were the first birthday cakes and they originated in Germany.

    It has been said that if the cake falls while baking, it is a sign of bad luck in the coming year. Coins, buttons, and rings were baked into cakes. The guest who receiving the slice with the coin was guaranteed riches in the future, the ring signified marriage.

    In ancient times, people prayed over the flames of an open fire. They believed that the smoke carried their thoughts up to the gods. Today, the belief is, that if you blow out all your candles in o­ne breath, your wish will come true.

    All these customs and traditions connected with the observance of birthdays have to do with guessing the future, good wishes for the future, good luck charms against evil spirits, and the like. All the birthday rituals, games, and ceremonies are a form of well-wishing toward the birthday child, which are supposed to work their magic in the year ahead. But, as we have seen, the custom is totally PAGAN!

    The tradition of birthday parties started in Europe a long time ago. It was feared that evil spirits were particularly attracted to people o­n their birthdays. To protect them from harm, friends and family would to come to be with the birthday person and bring good thoughts and wishes. Gifts brought even more good cheer to ward off the evil spirits. This is how birthday parties began.

    At first it was o­nly kings who were recognized as important enough to have a birthday celebration (maybe this is how the tradition of birthday crowns began?). As time went by, children became included in birthday celebrations. The first children's birthday parties occurred in Germany and were called Kinderfeste.
     
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    CACashRefund - Replied Aug 13, 2005

    everything dates back to pagan times
     
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    Dawood - Replied Aug 14, 2005

    what do you mean by "pagan times"? In every time there are pagans and then there are non pagans. Didn't you ever see the movie dragnet?
     
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    SF1 - Replied Aug 14, 2005

    Isn't Paganism the oldest religion? I heard it predates all others (including yours). Maybe that's what he meant by "Everything dates back to Pagan times".

    I'm sure you'll tell me that I'm wrong and Paganism is "evil" and your religion is the only "real" religion. :rolleyes:
     
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    Krakatau - Replied Aug 14, 2005

    Paganism is essentially a non-Abrahamic religious practice, which doesn't necessarily ascribe a set of religous practices. Kind of a blanket term.

    I wouldn't look to Daiwoo for knowledge.
     
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    DiaperBaby - Replied Aug 14, 2005

    Paganism is essentially a non-Abrahamic religious practice, which doesn't necessarily ascribe a set of religous practices. Kind of a blanket term.

    I wouldn't look to Daiwoo for knowledge.
    [post=4072103]Quoted post[/post]​
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    Well, take a look at Abrahamic religeons. Even the depiction of god stems from depictions of Zeuss. Funny how Christmas falls right around Winter Solstice as well, isn't it?
     
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  8. imported_Tesseract - Replied Aug 14, 2005

    bottom line, we started everything.
     
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    Dawood - Replied Aug 14, 2005


    Well, take a look at Abrahamic religeons. Even the depiction of god stems from depictions of Zeuss. Funny how Christmas falls right around Winter Solstice as well, isn't it?
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    I wouldn't call christianity an Abrahamic religion. Abraham was a muslim. (the word muslim means , one who submits to God) So what else could Abraham be?

    Anyway, krakatu, That was a pretty good explanation of what a pagan religion is.

    And I'm glad you wouldn't look to me for knowledge. I'm not a person to be looked to for knowledge.
    I'm just some graffiti writer posting on 12 oz.
     
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    villain - Replied Aug 14, 2005

    He is right.
    EVERYTHING comes from astrology. Astrology goes back to prehistory. Even his precious Islam is influenced by astrology if he would care to look into it.
     
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  11. imported_El Mamerro - Replied Aug 14, 2005

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    "Yeah, you also invented homos"
     
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    Evidence:
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    SF1 - Replied Aug 14, 2005

    Is that an ancient pagan birthday party? :haha:
     
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  14. imported_Tesseract - Replied Aug 14, 2005

    True, everything is everything i guess. You just jumped on the bandwagon and these days you're doing so much better
     
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    Krakatau - Replied Aug 14, 2005

    I wouldn't call christianity an Abrahamic religion. Abraham was a muslim. (the word muslim means , one who submits to God) So what else could Abraham be?

    Anyway, krakatu, That was a pretty good explanation of what a pagan religion is.

    And I'm glad you wouldn't look to me for knowledge. I'm not a person to be looked to for knowledge.
    I'm just some graffiti writer posting on 12 oz.
    [post=4072344]Quoted post[/post]​
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    Thanks. That's some nice circular reasoning you've displayed regarding Abraham.
    Abrahamic = Jews, Muslims, Christians.
     
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