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Bin Laden Met with the CIA

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by daus, Dec 14, 2001.

  1. daus

    daus Member

    Joined: Jul 16, 2001 Messages: 868 Likes Received: 0

    1. 1998 and 2000 - Former President George H.W. Bush travels to Saudi
    Arabia on behalf of the privately owned Carlyle Group, the 11th largest
    defense contractor in the U.S. While there he meets privately with the
    Saudi royal family and the bin Laden family. [Source: Wall Street
    Journal, Sept. 27, 2001. See also FTW, Vol. IV, No 7 - "The Best Enemies
    Money Can Buy," - http://www.copvcia.com/members/carlyle.html. ]

    2. January, 2001 - The Bush Administration orders the FBI and
    intelligence agencies to "back off" investigations involving the bin
    Laden family, including two of Osama bin Laden's relatives (Abdullah and
    Omar) who were living in Falls Church, VA - right next to CIA
    headquarters. This followed previous orders dating back to 1996,
    frustrating efforts to investigate the bin Laden family. [Source: BBC
    Newsnight, Correspondent Gregg Palast - Nov 7, 2001].

    3. Feb 13, 2001 - UPI Terrorism Correspondent Richard Sale - while
    covering a trial of bin Laden's Al Q'aeda followers - reports that the
    National Security Agency has broken bin Laden's encrypted
    communications. Even if this indicates that bin Laden changed systems in
    February it does not mesh with the fact that the government insists that
    the attacks had been planned for years.

    4. May 2001 - Secretary of State Colin Powell gives $43 million in aid
    to the Taliban regime, purportedly to assist hungry farmers who are
    starving since the destruction of their opium crop in January on orders
    of the Taliban regime. [Source: The Los Angeles Times, May 22, 2001].

    5. May, 2001 - Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, a career
    covert operative and former Navy Seal, travels to India on a publicized
    tour while CIA Director George Tenet makes a quiet visit to Pakistan to
    meet with Pakistani leader General Pervez Musharraf. Armitage has long
    and deep Pakistani intelligence connections and he is the recipient of
    the highest civil decoration awarded by Pakistan. It would be reasonable
    to assume that while in Islamabad, Tenet, in what was described as "an
    unusually long meeting," also met with his Pakistani counterpart, Lt.
    General Mahmud Ahmad, head of the ISI. [Source The Indian SAPRA news
    agency, May 22, 2001.]

    6. June 2001 - German intelligence, the BND, warns the CIA and Israel
    that Middle Eastern terrorists are "planning to hijack commercial
    aircraft to use as weapons to attack important symbols of American and
    Israeli culture." [Source: Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, September 14,

    7. July, 2001 - Three American officials: Tom Simmons (former U.S.
    Ambassador to Pakistan), Karl Inderfurth (former Assistant Secretary of
    State for South Asian affairs) and Lee Coldren (former State Department
    expert on South Asia), meet with Pakistani and Russian intelligence
    officers in Berlin and tell them that the U.S. is planning military
    strikes against Afghanistan in October. A French book released in
    November, "Bin Laden - La Verite Interdite," discloses that Taliban
    representatives often sat in on the meetings. British papers confirm
    that the Pakistani ISI relayed the threats to the Taliban. [Source: The
    Guardian, September 22, 2001; the BBC, September 18, 2001.The Inter
    Press Service, Nov 16, 2001]

    8. Summer 2001 - According to a Sept. 26 story in Britain's The
    Guardian, correspondent David Leigh reported that, "U.S. department of
    defense official, Dr. Jeffrey Starr, visited Tajikistan in January. The
    Guardian's Felicity Lawrence established that US Rangers were also
    training special troops in Kyrgyzstan. There were unconfirmed reports
    that Tajik and Uzbek special troops were training in Alaska and

    9. Summer 2001 (est.) - Pakistani ISI Chief General Mahmud (see above)
    orders an aide to wire transfer $100,000 to Mohammed Atta, who was
    according to the FBI, the lead terrorist in the suicide hijackings.
    Mahmud recently resigned after the transfer was disclosed in India and
    confirmed by the FBI. [Source: The Times of India, October 11, 2001.]

    10. Summer 2001 - An Iranian man phones U.S. law enforcement to warn of
    an imminent attack on the World Trade Center in the week of September
    9th. German police confirm the calls but state that the U.S. Secret
    Service would not reveal any further information. [Source: German news
    agency "online.ie", September 14, 2001.]

    11. August 2001 - The FBI arrests an Islamic militant linked to bin
    Laden in Boston. French intelligence sources confirm that the man is a
    key member of bin Laden's network and the FBI learns that he has been
    taking flying lessons. At the time of his arrest the man is in
    possession of technical information on Boeing aircraft and flight
    manuals. [Source: Reuters, September 13.]

    12. Summer 2001 - Russian intelligence notifies the CIA that 25
    terrorist pilots have been specifically training for suicide missions.
    This is reported in the Russian press and news stories are translated
    for FTW by a retired CIA officer.

    13. July 4-14, 2001 - Osama bin Laden receives treatments for kidney
    disease at the American hospital in Dubai and meets with a CIA official
    who returns to CIA headquarters on July 15th. [Source: Le Figaro,
    October 31st, 2001.]

    14. August 2001 - Russian President Vladimir Putin orders Russian
    intelligence to warn the U.S. government "in the strongest possible
    terms" of imminent attacks on airports and government buildings.
    [Source: MS-NBC interview with Putin, September 15.]

    15. August/September, 2001 - The Dow Jones Industrial Average drops
    nearly 900 points in the three weeks prior to the attack. A major stock
    market crash is imminent.

    [This was either a natural economic cycle, or brought on by
    foreknowledge of industrialists etc. who were informed of the coming
    Sept 11 attack]

    16. Sept. 3-10, 2001 - MS-NBC reports on September 16 that a caller to a
    Cayman Islands radio talk show gave several warnings of an imminent
    attack on the U.S. by bin Laden in the week prior to 9/11.

    17. September 1-10, 2001 - In an exercise, Operation "Swift Sword"
    planned for four years, 23, 000 British troops are steaming toward Oman.
    Although the 9/11 attacks caused a hiccup in the deployment the massive
    operation was implemented as planned. At the same time two U.S. carrier
    battle groups arrive on station in the Gulf of Arabia just off the
    Pakistani coast. Also at the same time, some 17,000 U.S. troops join
    more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation "Bright Star." All
    of these forces are in place before the first plane hits the World Trade
    Center. [Sources: The Guardian, CNN, FOX, The Observer, International
    Law Professor Francis Boyle, the University of Illinois.]

    18. September 6-7, 2001 - 4,744 put options (a speculation that the
    stock will go down) are purchased on United Air Lines stock as opposed
    to only 396 call options (speculation that the stock will go up). This
    is a dramatic and abnormal increase in sales of put options. Many of the
    UAL puts are purchased through Deutschebank/AB Brown, a firm managed
    until 1998 by the current Executive Director of the CIA, A.B. "Buzzy"
    [Source: The Herzliyya International Policy Institute for
    Counterterrorism, http://www.ict.org.il/, September 21; The New York
    Times; The Wall Street Journal.]

    19. September 10, 2001 - 4,516 put options are purchased on American
    Airlines as compared to 748 call options. [Source: ICT - above]

    20. September 6-11, 2001 - No other airlines show any similar trading
    patterns to those experienced by UAL and American. The put option
    purchases on both airlines were 600% above normal. This at a time when
    Reuters (September 10) issues a business report stating, "Airline stocks
    may be poised to take off."

    21. September 6-10, 2001 - Highly abnormal levels of put options are
    purchased in Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re(insurance) which owns
    25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re. All of these companies are
    directly impacted by the September 11 attacks. [Source: ICT, above; FTW,
    Vol. IV, No.7, October 18, 2001,
    http://www.copvcia.com/members/oct152001.html. ]

    22. It has been documented that the CIA, the Israeli Mossad and many
    other intelligence agencies monitor stock trading in real time using
    highly advanced programs reported to be descended from Promis software.
    This is to alert national intelligence services of just such kinds of
    attacks. Promis was reported, as recently as June, 2001 to be in Osama
    bin Laden's possession and, as a result of recent stories by FOX, both
    the FBI and the Justice Department have confirmed its use for U.S.
    intelligence gathering through at least this summer. This would confirm
    that CIA had additional advance warning of imminent attacks. [Sources:
    The Washington Times, June 15, 2001; FOX News, October 16, 2001; FTW,
    October 26, 2001, - http://www.copvcia.com/members/magic_carpet.html;
    FTW, Vol. IV, No.6, Sept. 18, 2001 -
    http://www.copvcia.com/members/sept1801.html; FTW, Vol. 3, No 7, 9/30/00
    - www.copvcia.com/stories/may_2001/052401_promis.html.

    23. September 11, 2001 - Gen Mahmud of the ISI (see above), friend of
    Mohammed Atta, is visiting Washington on behalf of the Taliban. [Source:
    MS-NBC, Oct. 7.]

    24. September 11, 2001, For 35 minutes, from 8:15 AM until 9:05 AM, with
    it widely known within the FAA and the military that four planes have
    been simultaneously hijacked and taken off course, no one notifies the
    President of the United States. It is not until 9:30 that any Air Force
    planes are scrambled to intercept, but by then it is too late. This
    means that the National Command Authority waited for 75 minutes before
    scrambling aircraft, even though it was known that four simultaneous
    hijackings had occurred - an event that has never happened in history.
    [Sources: CNN, ABC, MS-NBC, The Los Angeles Times, The New York Times.]

    25. September 13, 2001 - China is admitted to the World Trade
    Organization quickly, after 15 years of unsuccessful attempts. [Source:
    The New York Times, Sept. 30, 2001.]

    26. September 15, 2001 - The New York Times reports that Mayo Shattuck
    III has resigned, effective immediately, as head of the Alex (A.B) Brown
    unit of Deutschebank.

    27. September 29, 2001 - The San Francisco Chronicle reports that $2.5
    million in put options on American Airlines and United Airlines are
    unclaimed. This is likely the result of the suspension in trading on the
    NYSE after the attacks which gave the Securities and Exchange Commission
    time to be waiting when the owners showed up to redeem their put

    28. October 10, 2001 - The Pakistani newspaper The Frontier Post reports
    that U.S. Ambassador Wendy Chamberlain has paid a call on the Pakistani
    oil minister. A previously abandoned Unocal pipeline from Turkmenistan,
    across Afghanistan, to the Pakistani coast, for the purpose of selling
    oil and gas to China, is now back on the table "in view of recent
    geopolitical developments."

    29. Mid October, 2001 - The Dow Jones Industrial Average, after having
    suffered a precipitous drop has recovered most of its pre-attack losses.
    Although still weak, and vulnerable to negative earnings reports, a
    crash has been averted by a massive infusion of government spending on
    defense programs, subsidies for "affected" industries and planned tax
    cuts for corporations.
  2. boxcarwilly

    boxcarwilly Senior Member

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  3. fiberoptical

    fiberoptical New Jack

    Joined: Apr 26, 2001 Messages: 31 Likes Received: 0
    And here are a few more ideas I have come up with lately..
    So Johnnie Walker was a manchurian canidate...ok, so how is an american allowed into the Talibahn? Seeing as they are so anti- american..and he knows when, and what type of attacks OBL supposedly has planned? my bullshit bell rings at this one. Seems like he may be a plant...an ex-agent gone awry?.

    So back a while ago the US miltary conducted a bunch of "mock " biological terrorist test on Salt Lake City Utah...and look where next months Olympics are set to begin?I wonder what kind of results those teste yielded....keep an eye on this one.
  4. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    those were done to gauge the readiness of the
    emergency response sector and prepare it for
    possible terrorist attacks during the olympics....
  5. fiberoptical

    fiberoptical New Jack

    Joined: Apr 26, 2001 Messages: 31 Likes Received: 0
    Yes that was the cover story.
  6. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    ah, i see.....of course...;)


    any political regime has two faces
  8. TheStupidToy

    TheStupidToy Junior Member

    Joined: Nov 26, 2001 Messages: 205 Likes Received: 0
    When will you people learn, the news is 95% bullshit.... They tell you what YOU want to hear..... because if you didnt want to hear it, you would'nt buy it, and if you did'nt buy it, they would'nt have any money..... which makes it obvious..... YOU ARE CONTROLLED BY FAKE NEWS...... "We interrupt this thread to bring you breaking news....."
  9. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    for the most part i tend to lean towards that thinking too...but just for arguments sake lets ask this:
    what makes YOUR information so unequivocally unchallengable?
    just cuz? yea, there are ways to cross reference things and link them up,
    but does that really add up to some extreme plot? maybe...
    but....not everyone is as ignorant as you love to believe..this is something alot
    of you 'type of guys' (forgive me for generalizing) tend to spew in your arguments....everyone but you is a moron for not seeing the divine truth.
    but it comes down to this: you don't really fuckin' know.
    you guys think you have every piece of the puzzle, or at least a few of the
    pieces, and with these few pieces of a massive picture, you've extrapolated
    that the world is like a real life matrix or something. art imitates life huh? alot of the stuff i read is the same shit you guys read..mk ultra, silent weapons etcetry.. although some of it is certainly plausible, the majority of it is
    speculative. how do you know this information isn't suspect itself? you have no probs questioning everything BUT this information.
    the government certainly can't be slick enough to pull one over on you guys by slyly dishing out stuff like this, knowing full well there is a chunk of population that staunchly mistrusts them and feeds on this conspiracy shit....no...but there slick enough to pull a sheet over the rest of the worlds eyes...
    you gotta believe in somethin'..

    brown...fence sitter
  10. the last slave

    the last slave Member

    Joined: Feb 19, 2001 Messages: 500 Likes Received: 0
    Browner, thats exactly what i've been trying to say.And heads were so quick to jump up about this UBL video tape being a hoax and whatever. I dont know if it's real or not but im sure if the government ..really.. wanted to create a fake tape with bin laden on it it wouldn't look like that tape thats on the news.and i'm not sure but i heard that the tape can't be used as evidence even if they do catch bin laden.again not sure. yea
  11. ctrl+alt+del

    ctrl+alt+del Guest

    Bush is/was business partners with Osamas brother.
  12. Smart

    Smart Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 14, 2000 Messages: 17,017 Likes Received: 178
    yeah, ex agent, that's bullshit for sure, the CIA doesn't recruit below 24 for sensitive assignments, most high risk assignment arent't recieved until the late 20's... the ONLY exception is recruitment straight from the armed forces, whom Dickie had no contact with, it's not that easy to bury the recruitment trail...
  13. GorbortOrman

    GorbortOrman Guest

    I met with the CIA once, about my excessive diarhea problem... ooooo boo yaaa
  14. 455

    455 Guest