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Being sober for the rest of your life...

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Dirty_habiT, Apr 1, 2005.

  1. Dirty_habiT

    Dirty_habiT Administrator

    Joined: Mar 8, 2001 Messages: 18,136 Likes Received: 82
    I, up until a couple days ago, was clean since Januaray 11th.... but I had been drinking like a fish. My friend made me a bet a little more than a week ago that I couldn't go a week without drinking. I did it and it was harder than I thought. So then the other day, I am not sure what happened but my will power was weakened. I smoked and felt like a real ass about it. So like before I don't desire to do that stuff anymore, or any other stuff... it makes me no bueno to be around. I thought since I had gone so long that I had it made and that stuff would never mess with my life again. I was wrong, I hate addiction. Anyhow, so after the bet with my friend was over, I decided that it was time to catch up.... well I had a couple drinks the other night and ended up fighting with my girlfriend.... which is what always happens. We had so many less fights the week that I didn't drink. So now I'm deciding that I have to give up drinking also. It's a condition of my probation anyhow, for me to be completely clean and not drink.

    The other day I drank one beer.... one beer. I wasn't drunk, I didn't feel the effects of the alcohol, but that week of being sober made it easy for me to realise that the alcohol had changed my thinking.... just from one beer. I become an asshole, a different person. It's unhealthy. Now the part I need help with.... there's not many options for entertainment when all you've relied on for so long is mind altering substances. I don't hang out with any of the people I used to, I am trying to find new friends that engage in worthwhile activities. It's not easy, everyone seems to be escaping from reality one way or the other. Being ignorant gets old quick.

    I was wondering if any of you have ever battled addiction and won, what helped you... what'd you do to occupy yourself? Getting bored is your downfall when dealing with this. Please don't erase this thread, I'm not trying to discuss subjects that I know aren't supposed to be talked of here. I'm turning to my fellow 12ozers for the good advice.
  2. courtorder

    courtorder Senior Member

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  3. The Leader

    The Leader Senior Member

    Joined: Jan 23, 2005 Messages: 1,591 Likes Received: 1
    I doubt I'll be sober for the rest of my life, although I am definately trying to calm down on the alcohol. I'm trying to drink only on weekends.. instead of every day. I don't have the being an asshole problem when I get drunk.. atleast I don't think I do. Most people can't tell when I'm drunk as opposed to sober, so I might just have the being an asshole problem all the time, or never.

    In a perfect world, I wouldn't drink another drop in my life.


    Good luck to you man, I hope you get off the sauce.
  4. The Leader

    The Leader Senior Member

    Joined: Jan 23, 2005 Messages: 1,591 Likes Received: 1
    And yeah, I've noticed when I am more productive canvas/train wise I drink less.
  5. 8onus

    8onus Banned

    Joined: Apr 18, 2004 Messages: 1,052 Likes Received: 1

    i don't like revealing to much about my self to people i don't know, but i have been without drugs and alcohol for 3 years, by the age of 18 when i stoped, i had become a junkie, i had been homeless before, pulled guns on people to get what what i thought i needed, and nobody trusted me, i was looking at death at around 20 or 21. by the end of my carrer as an addict and alcoholic, when i finally decided to get clean, i looked like bruce willis at the end of the die hard movies.

    for me personally getting sober was not something i wanted to do i had to do it or i was dead, i probally deserve to be. i had to get help. i did. life is butter.
  6. Dirty_habiT

    Dirty_habiT Administrator

    Joined: Mar 8, 2001 Messages: 18,136 Likes Received: 82
    The Leader:

    Yeah, that thing about people not knowing if you're drunk or sober, that's the thing with me too.... when I was drinking really heavily the past couple months, I could drink and drink and drink.... and not throw up or be cross eyed or anything. It got to where I couldn't get to where i was trying to get to with alcohol.... and people wouldn't know if I was drunk or not, and mostly that ended with them assuming I was drunk. It's hard to tell if you are better without alcohol without staying away from it for a while. I have to go to a treatment program for probation and they tell me that you CANNOT control your drinking. Like that drinking on the weekends thing won't work in the long run. Some, very few, people can get away with doing that, but most of us... no. There's also those who stop drinking liquor and stick to beer, that doesn't work either. Statistics say that sooner or later you'll fuck up. You could get away with being at parties and not fighting or driving home drunk a million times, but it's the one time that you get caught that's gonna hurt. Anyhow, I hope the replies keep comin.
  7. Turd Ferguson

    Turd Ferguson New Jack

    Joined: Oct 8, 2004 Messages: 88 Likes Received: 0
    Don't be one of those assholes that gives it all up and becomes a fucking Jesus freak. i hate people that do that shit.
  8. InfiniteWisdomOfThePezDispenser

    InfiniteWisdomOfThePezDispenser Junior Member

    Joined: Oct 27, 2004 Messages: 164 Likes Received: 0
    I've drank myself to the point where my body had a chemical dependency. I kicked that and didn't drink for a while, but I am drinking again in moderation. I think the key word here is exactly that, moderation. Too much or too little of something is unhealthy in my opinion.

    People tend to take things overboard in both positive and negative ways.

    oh yeah, I realize full on alcoholics aren't ever going to be able to go back to a minimal social drinking status.
  9. 8onus

    8onus Banned

    Joined: Apr 18, 2004 Messages: 1,052 Likes Received: 1
    the question is dude if you are happy? simple. are you satisfied with your life? and if not, and drinking and your dissatisfaction seem to go hand in hand then maybe you should do something about it, but if these problems are simply normal human misfortunes then alcohol is not to blame.

    i leave you with this:
    an old wise man told me once that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result.
  10. Fondles

    Fondles Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 31, 2001 Messages: 7,866 Likes Received: 27
    Thankfully, I don't have any addictive tendencies or an addictive "personality" to be vague. Point is, the only thing that i'm addicted to is, literally, money. haha. I must have it. All the time. I can drink drink drink, ok i'm drunk, now i'm asleep, I wake up, where the money at. I couldn't care less about drinking, smoking (green, cigs are fucking nasty), harder drugs (which I don't do at all), all that shit, to the point of forming an addiction. This is mostly due to my having a healthy self-esteem. Drinking and smoking, and the addictions that come from them, are often signs of poor/unhealthy self-esteem.

    I'm by far an expert on the subject of self-esteem, as I am but a student on this myself, but a man by the name of Nathaniel Branden is an expert. And I **highly highly** recommend this book to anyone that is looking for a solid foundation to build upon.

  11. GLIK$

    GLIK$ Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 23, 2002 Messages: 22,277 Likes Received: 117
    Dirty reHabz?
  12. promiscuous

    promiscuous Junior Member

    Joined: Dec 2, 2004 Messages: 104 Likes Received: 0
    i don't like the sound of it.
  13. CIPHER_one

    CIPHER_one Senior Member

    Joined: Jul 3, 2000 Messages: 2,300 Likes Received: 0
    Yeah, basically just keep busy doing stuff you enjoy. Be productive. Take up a hobby. Get a job. Read a lot more. Write a lot more. Draw a lot more. Paint a lot more.
  14. trackstand

    trackstand Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 21, 2004 Messages: 2,262 Likes Received: 3

    GREENOJOS Member

    Joined: Dec 16, 2003 Messages: 426 Likes Received: 0
    my friend was trying to stop smoking and was on his way to recovery when he gave in last night at poker night. i don't know, i've never had to deal with an addiction really (atleast not with drugs or drinking) those things should be done in adequate amounts, used to relax once in awhile and not to be done all the time because it's the only thing you can do that's "fun" (in my opinion). Don't get me wrong though, i love getting wasted and the feeling you get, but i don't need to feel that every night to enjoy myself.

    as far as things to do to help you quit drinking and smoking or whatever else you want to quit, i'd say switching up your friends as well as getting more involved with different hobbies or whatever else you might be interested in learning would help significantly. that's what im doing currently. i work, eat, sleep, learn new things and currently i'm trying to get into some new hobbies / entertainment and just gain experience in different things life has to offer.

    good luck.