Guest im not witty Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 this is a good band. apparently it's a book title as well and nothing short of a entertaining ninja vs pirate type concept on its on. discuss any one of these great topics at your leisure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rage- Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb/icons/icon26.gif'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 dont know the book or the band, but i will now investigate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 I choose to dwell further on choice #3. The shark would fuck the bear up proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 But that doesn't make bears any less cool, Rage, so don't sweat it. It's just that sharks are fucking crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rage- Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Originally posted by El Mamerro The shark would fuck the bear up proper. In water, yes. On land? Nay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TEARZ Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 disagree sir. the shark is a chomp, hold & squirm type of attacker... he couldn't do shit to a bear, especially a grizzly. by the time he sunk in his hundreds of teeth, he'd be mauled like a motherfucker (keep in mind, 1 grizzly paw swing and the human head goes flying off like barry bonds hitting off a tee). victory- bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest im not witty Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 my friends played a show with these guys and they were nuts, running around, humping on a synthesizer and all kinds of shit. i was blown away. then later we listened to the album. the first three songs are amazing and frantic, then it kind of slows down, didnt really get me as much, but im sure it will grow on me. all in all, very impressive i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TEARZ Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 y para mi pana mams victory- beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest im not witty Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 i think the concept of the fight is that it takes place in enough water that the shark can manuever, but not too deep that the bear cant. thats the concept for the book i think, like a huge deal in vegas type prize fight. anywho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rage- Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 ^^^ that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogy nights Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 i always heard that the most dangerous animal was a shark riding on an elephants back, stomping and biting everything in their path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemekill Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Originally posted by -Rage- In water, yes. On land? Nay. I've had this same discussion with my friends except it was an Alligator and a Tiger... I think the Tiger would win on land, not in water. But it would be a hell of a fight nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Naaaah dude, even on land it's gonna be tough. The shark is gonna be flopping around like a maniac, and the bear will have to assume a sort of humping position to stay away from the mouth. If he fails, he's fucked. The bear can't bite at anything other than fins and tail, cause his mouth isn't big enough to go for the body. It will paw and tear shit away with its claws, but it'll take quite some time to get through the zillion layers of fat to get at the vitals. On the other hand, bears have tons of lovely protrusions that are gonna come off immediately if the shark gets to them, along with main arteries that are gonna spew out like a water fountain, AND sharks have a huge fucking mouth that could tear off giant chunks right off the body. Sharks, dude. Sharks all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rage- Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Originally posted by El Mamerro the bear will have to assume a sort of humping position to stay away from the mouth. If he fails, he's fucked. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHHHAHHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Pffftt.. Sharks don't even have legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 "In water, yes. On land? Nay." hahahaha.....unless ofcourse he happens to be a landshark....(cue jaws music) "hello, candy gram...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Also, I'm assuming we're pitting best of the best here, which would be a polar bear vs. a great white. Not like, a black bear vs. a silly whitetip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rage- Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Polar Bear Vs. Great White That would be better, but the bear would just be utterly confused as to what's biting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 simple: Bear (even in water) why? Shark = One point of attack (the jaw) Bear = Five points of attack (four claws and the jaw) The claws make all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Æ° Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 I wonder how easily a shark could rip through the thick hide of a bear. And I wonder if a shark's jaws could crush a bear's bones. But a bear probably couldn't swing it's claws around fast enough under water. That would be an interesting battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubejinxed Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 neither would win, they would probably maul each other to mutual death. and what the hell are the fighting for? do we have any evidence that they are natural enemies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pilau Hands Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 haha we're all weirdos but if we're gonna get serious here, we've got to think of the attack space of the bear and shark. is there really a depth of water for the shark to maneuver in with the bear still freely capable of attacking? we know the bear can stand there and grab/bite/swipe, but how much area does the shark need. if it's like a steel cage match, in a small space, i'd give it to the bear. hopefully, it'd be smart enough to move out of the way of the shark's jaws, humpgrab it, and just start tearing into the thing. if it's like a dark alley one night, i'd say the shark. mofo's too fast foh yah. i thought about that too ube...you'd have to starve the shark to the point where it was hungry enough to take on something the size of a grizzly bear. and you'd have to somehow make the bear think the shark was attacking it's cubs or something. how? i dont know...fake movie? flash cards? candygram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 this is fascinating. I will get to the bottom of this. *heads off to the zoo* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Nerds to the Rescue! from this very nerdy site... These are game statistics for various sorts of animals, gathered from numerous White Wolf sourcebooks. Vampire: the Masquerade Revised, Blood-Dimmed Tides, the Werewolf Revised Storyteller's Companion, Mummy: the Ressurection and more. Only the physical stats have been included, as Pooka generally keep their own Social and Mental Attributes when in their Animal Miens. Bear Strength: 4/7/7, Dexterity: 2, Stamina: 4/6/7 Attacks: Claw: Str +2 Lethal, Bite: Str +0 Lethal Notes: Black Bears are represented by the numhbers to the left of the slashes. Brown and Grizzly Bears are the center number. Polar Bears are the number on the right. Shark Strength: 2-5, Dexterity: 3-4, Stamina: 3-5 Attacks: Bite: Str +2 Lethal Notes: Variable Attributes cover the different breeds of shark, with Great Whites at the high end. the Bears take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Man, you guys are all backwards. First off, a shark can EASILY tear into the thick hide of a bear. They've found mangled pieces of chewed up STEEL in shark's bellies. A shark chomps down on something with intent to tear and you can kiss that shit goodbye. Second, many points of attack vs. one point of attack doesn't hold up in this case. It's like pitting a tank with a huge fucking rocket launcher against an armored humvee with 5 big machine guns. By the time the machine guns have caused significant damage, the tank would've blown the shit out of the humvee. Thirdly, you gotta take into account that a great white can lift itself clearly out of the water in one jump, a feat that requires so much strength it will shit your pants. Even if the bear manages to humpgrab it, it will probably be able to toss it with a couple of good tail swipes. I got tail slapped in the chest by a measly 22-pound dorado last Saturday and it nearly knocked me on my ass, I don't wanna imagine what a ton-and-a-half shark can do. Fourth, let's not get into unnecessary variables like how to get them riled up to fight. Everyone knows both bears and sharks ALWAYS want to fuck shit up and kill things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubejinxed Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 according to that site the Bison or the killer whale takes the cake. i dunno about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rage- Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Originally posted by Kilo7- the Bears take it! Polar Bears to be exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Screw Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Originally posted by Kilo7- simple: Bear (even in water) why? Shark = One point of attack (the jaw) Bear = Five points of attack (four claws and the jaw) The claws make all the difference. I beg to differ. (in water) shark = two points of attack (jaw and the water which the bear will drown in once the shark has bitten into the bear) shark team whut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Originally posted by Kilo7- Bear Strength: 4/7/7, Dexterity: 2, Stamina: 4/6/7 Attacks: Claw: Str +2 Lethal, Bite: Str +0 Lethal Notes: Black Bears are represented by the numhbers to the left of the slashes. Brown and Grizzly Bears are the center number. Polar Bears are the number on the right. Shark Strength: 2-5, Dexterity: 3-4, Stamina: 3-5 Attacks: Bite: Str +2 Lethal Notes: Variable Attributes cover the different breeds of shark, with Great Whites at the high end. That's bullshit... they completely pussified the shark's specs. Strength 5? A great white is a 20ft. giant muscle with a gianter mouth. Also, they forgot to add "Fucking Huge Tail Swipe of Death" to the attacks list, which would be Str +5 Lethal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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