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Bathing Ape: The Great Ripoff

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Gunm, Oct 10, 2005.

  1. Gunm

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    Bathing Ape: The Great Ripoff

    Discussion started by Gunm - Oct 10, 2005

    SO here I am in Hong Kong doing some clothes shopping and it occurs to me "Hey, why not look for the ill hard to find threads?"

    I see every other person wearing Bathing Ape apparel and so I assume that it must be popular = affordable. At most, i expect a t-shirt to cost maybe $35-40 given the nature of the label.



    WRONG


    Shop after shop is hawking Bathing Ape t-shirts....fucking T-SHIRTS.........for $90-120 a pop. Did I miss something here? Since when did a t-shirt cost upwards of an 1/8 of my travel budget?

    It's not like the shirt is made of silk or the pubic hair of virgins.....it's just plain ass cotton with a KAWS graphic going for ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS. A t-shirt....printed for pennies on the dollar and then is sold for massive cash. Can you say FLEECING?

    A pox on Bathing Ape and that cash monger KAWS for this. An even bigger pox on people that put out the cash for stuff like this and encouraging it. These are T-Shirts you idiots...not collectables that you seal in Mylar bags and allow to accrue value over time. I swear....graffiti writers are becoming the new comic book nerds on the real.

    SO today, i am going down to the market place and buying four or five boot leg, knock off bathing ape shirt i can find. Fuck this shit. Time for a drink
     
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  2. 12:02p.m

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    12:02p.m - Replied Oct 10, 2005

    wow i wonder if more people wear the bootleg ones? if not that company is making good good money if every other person is wearing one.
     
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  3. Biggus Dickus

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    Biggus Dickus - Replied Oct 10, 2005


    That isn't really that rare, look at how ugly some of the people on myspace are.
     
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    courtorder - Replied Oct 10, 2005

    I agree. did they like buy the AF1 model from Nike and get rights to reproduce it or something?
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    GLIK$ - Replied Oct 10, 2005

    Are you seriously asking since when has BAPE been expensive?
     
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    courtorder - Replied Oct 10, 2005

    fuck if they're expensive, everyone knows that. i wanna know what's up with these NIKE BAPEs?
     
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    courtorder - Replied Oct 10, 2005

    what is shai hulud typing, anyway?
     
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    CACashRefund - Replied Oct 10, 2005

    hes probably afk
     
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    Theyre called BAPESTAs.
     
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    DREDZ - Replied Oct 11, 2005

    ...yea that bathing ape shit is a'ight. All the buzz is interesting, but the gear is way too much money. When the shoes first dropped they were at least 3 bills...i was like...man, them shits ain't all that damn hot.
     
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    GLIK$ - Replied Oct 11, 2005

    yeah, BAPESTA's are still about 3 bills.

    Wayyyy too fucking expensive. Not my ish really, I copped one pair on ebay because kids slept on them and I only paid about 1/3 the price, but other than that.. blech.

    Better off copping a pair of quickstrike nikes for $130.

    Thats why the BAPE's are so expensive though, theyre all "quickstrike" and have custom colorways. But basically unless you're fat joe, theyre not worth your money.
     
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    sarcasm - Replied Oct 11, 2005

    a bathing ape has always been expensive, for what seems just normal goods. my friend bought the kaws bape green camo hoodie for like 500 bucks, and i nearly shat my pants. i would never on earth spend that amount of dough on just a hoodie. to each his own though.

    i'm not a fan of their stuff, but if i were given the chance to wear their shit for free, i would. but fuck paying enormous amounts of money to look like a walking rainbow
     
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    Coffie Crave - Replied Oct 11, 2005

    if you dont like the company or lable...( which i dont) why would u go outa your way to wear bootleg?

    people are paying top doller to get down with the Image / trend ... theres nothing worth the price of that crud...
     
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    shai - Replied Oct 11, 2005

    I gotta ask you this.

    A Certain Writer From PVC that I went to high school with just bought a house in SF, according to reliable sources (mutual friends). I also heard that he was doing design work in Japan and that he had a successful T-shirt line there, as well. This is in addition to his artist assistant gig, and his own art career, which seems to be doing well.

    So, let's say his shirts sold for $80 a pop...I'll cut him a little slack.

    The average Victorian in the Mission goes for around $1,000,000.

    He gets about 1/3 of the retail in royalties, or something like that...I don't talk to him these days, and even if I did, I wouldn't ask. Rounded up, that works out to $27 a shirt, his way.

    That means if he sold 38,000 T-shirts, he gets a house out of the deal. For a sense of how this could be possible, imagine every single 12 ozer shelling out eighty bucks, plus tax, and you'll see that it isn't that difficult.

    All thanks to marketing our culture. Whoopee.

    On one hand, I admire his initiative...but, I just...don't...know.

    In theory, he writes on walls...sometimes legally, sometimes not....and, he's a millionaire.
     
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    GLIK$ - Replied Oct 11, 2005

    If you're referring to me, they're not knock offs. They're a pair of shoes that were poorly advertised on ebay and I ended up capitalizing.

    Yeah kids are paying to get down with the trend/image, the same way kids are trying to whore graffiti style artwork on ebay.

    Go home and paint some more knock-off of Dalek AF1s.
     
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