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Discussion in 'Metal Heads' started by imported_Tesseract, Aug 15, 2002.

  1. So after reading and reading about freights i agree with Cracked ass. That whole thing with the geography and stuff was a good illustration for a euro to realise. But now a new idea came to mind, tell me if you agree.

    America is a huge country, freights, given that you work hard, can be used to circulate your work around the whole country. Still what i find that is the most appealing thing about freights is that it makes graffiti possible for non city kids. It seems logical to me that freights are so hit up there because freight are everywhere, from city to suburb and metropolis to holeinthemap village. It seems that the freight scene's biggest thing is that it made graffiti non-urban.

    CRUSH KILL DESTROY Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 4, 2001 Messages: 7,216 Likes Received: 1
    i personally know people from the suburbs who got into graff from seeing freights rolling through there small towns plastered with graffiti, myself i think that nothing beats a clean train rolling by with graff on it but unfortunatly here in the u.s you have a better chance of seeing the tooth fairy because of the buff, in 99% of cases shit gets buffed without even leaving the spot it was painted, so whats the next best thing, yes north american freights. its basically a subway that covers not a city, not a state, not even a country but a fuckin continent, so i can do a fr8 in new york and someone in vancouver canada can catch it, also shit gets buffed but to a minumum. ive been catching cars lately dated 95 and 96 caught a porn from 93 recently and some cbs la stuff from 94. so to me freights are alot better than you europeans make it out to be.
  3. To avoid misunderstanding, i dont diss freights at all. To me graffiti is graffiti and doing it is whats important, one way or another i dont give a damn. I live here and paint what i got, i'm just underlining a thought that seemed interesting to me.
    What i'm saying is that the freight scene doesnt seem like an alternative to passenger/subway trains...its a whole different thing and has a totally different culture that is not necessarily urban based.
    To sum it up, even if trains did roll i wouldnt expect freights stop being painted. You would just have less writers.

    I dont leave there so i cant really say, but if i had some stats on my hands by experience i'm sure that i'd find out that the number of writers in the states had been dramatically increased since people started painting freights.
    Can anyone confirm this?
  4. SE4_2002

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    The same goes here really the last tube I saw run (not including myself) was at Xmas, by Fusion and Juice, so thats like 8 months ago.But I only really travel on two lines the Jubilee(which is virtually always clean) and the Central.London has the biggest subway system in the world with like 12 differnet lines and like 40 yards and around 3 underground yards seeing how big it is you would expect more to be running but it simply doesn`t unless of course your lucky or you do a back jump. A question for you guys who use Subways in America when was the last time you saw something run??

    p.s i`m not at all on the dissing side, maybe if we had a freight system like yours it might be the same who knows..
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  6. NATO

    NATO Guest

    strange really im from the UK and the only graffiti i see on a regular basis rolling is freights. ive only ever caught undersides on the tube but maybe one day ill be lucky.
  7. grandmaster

    grandmaster Member

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    Has anyone noticed the amount of stuff tox does?Every northern circle central and district has been bombed on the outside with a staining mop........personally i dont think hes very good but he is killing everything.Btp must be on his case....Freights are cool if you are in america,Europeans dont understand the concept,because it seems easy to paint them.Every freight yard is differant.

    I have never considred myself to be a european hahahaha
  8. WITS

    WITS Member

    Joined: Apr 17, 2002 Messages: 366 Likes Received: 0
    Freights : Subways
    Apples : Oranges

    They're both trains but that is about the extent of the similarities. Freights are nice because everyone can paint them. Everyone doesn't have a train running through their city you know. Yeah. I <3 graffiti.
  9. It amazes me how almost all of you miss the point
  10. DMX

    DMX Guest

    of course we miss the point we're writers. graffiti=stupid. anyways i don't care one bit about the freights vs. cleans argument, but i wanted to address one misconception that alot of europeans seem to have which is that freights don't go anywhere that people will see them, ie the city. freight do spend alot of time in rural areas, but they also run through big cities and park next to major freeways and almost anywhere else you can imagine. the don't just roll from one secluded field to another. and just because somebody paints freight doesn't mean they paint them in a field (although they very well may). some yards are in the middle of nowhere and some are in the middle of the ghetto. so to address tesseract's point, freights do bring graffiti out of the urban areas and into the rest of america but they play a big part in urban graffiti too.
  11. bodice_ripper

    bodice_ripper Elite Member

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  12. porque

    porque Senior Member

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    ...i'm going to comment on the point of this thread because no on else did...yes tesseract...freights has allowed graffiti to spread to non urban areas and has created a different philosophy of graffiti here...lots of kids never saw bombs except fro maybe on tv, but they caught trians rolling with pieces and were still exposed to graff...now it's not uncommon to drive threw some bumpkin ass town and see a few tags...yeah there are tons more writers, but they'll all grow up soon and give up like everyone else and only true heads will remain..
  13. krowteN

    krowteN Member

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    ...yeah there are tons more writers, but they'll all grow up soon and give up like everyone else and only true heads will remain.. [/QUOTE]

    ...yeah there are tons more writers, but they'll all grow up soon and give up like everyone else and only true heads will remain.. [/QUOTE]

    ...yeah there are tons more writers, but they'll all grow up soon and give up like everyone else and only true heads will remain.. [/QUOTE]

    ...yeah there are tons more writers, but they'll all grow up soon and give up like everyone else and only true heads will remain.. [/QUOTE]

    get it.
  14. fiberoptical

    fiberoptical New Jack

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