sarcasm Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Expert warns California to brace for big quake by September Thu Apr 15,10:20 AM ET LOS ANGELES (AFP) - A US geophysicist has set the scientific world ablaze by claiming to have cracked a holy grail: accurate earthquake prediction, and warning that a big one will soon hit southern California. Russian-born University of California at Los Angeles professor Vladimir Keilis-Borok says he can foresee major quakes by tracking minor temblors and historical patterns in seismic hotspots that could indicate more violent shaking is on the way. And he has made a chilling prediction that a quake measuring at least 6.4 magnitude on the Richter scale will hit a 31,200-square-kilometer (12,000-square-mile) area of southern California by September 5. The team at UCLA's Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics accurately predicted a 6.5-magnitude quake in central California last December as well as an 8.1-magnitude temblor that struck the Japanese island of Hokkaido in September. "Earthquake prediction is called the Holy Grail of earthquake science, and has been considered impossible by many scientists," said Keilis-Borok, 82. "It is not impossible. "We have made a major breakthrough, discovering the possibility of making predictions months ahead of time, instead of years, as in previously known methods." If accurate, the prediction method would be critical in an area like California, which is criss-crossed by fault lines that have spawned devastating quakes over the years including ones which ravaged San Francisco in 1989 and Los Angeles in 1994. That has given credence to his research, which was endorsed by a state panel, the California Earthquake Prediction Evaluation Council, earlier this month. "Even two years back it was practically a dirty word to say earthquake prediction," said Nancy Sauer, an organiser of the annual conference of the Seismological Society of America which began Wednesday in Palm Springs. The UCLA team -- made up of US, Japanese, Canadian, European and Russian experts in pattern recognition, geodynamics, seismology, chaos theory, statistical physics and public safety -- says it has developed algorithms to detect earthquake patterns. The experts predicted in June an earthquake measuring 6.4 or higher would strike within nine months in a 496-kilometer (310-mile) region of central California, including San Simeon, where a 6.5-magnitude temblor struck December 22, killing two people. In July, they said they predicted a magnitude 7.0 or higher quake in a region that included Hokkaido by December 28. The September 25 quake fell within that period. Now they predict a major quake will hit an area that stretches across desert regions to the east of Los Angeles, home to around nine million people, including the Mojave desert and the resort town of Palm Springs, which lies near the notorious San Andreas fault. That is where experts began gathering for the Seismological Society of America conference that looks sure to be dominated by passionate discussion of Keilis-Borok's prediction method. "There is something going on," Sauer told the Desert Sun newspaper in Palm Springs. "People are at least willing to entertain the idea. It is not seen so much as junk science now." Another seismic expert, University of Oregon professor Ray Weldon, was scheduled to present findings to the conference that appear to support Keilis-Borok's research by saying the San Andreas fault is about to enter a new and violent period of shaking. The data, according to the Desert Sun, was gathered over 18 years around the famed fault, showing it is under high levels of stress. "You could consider that support (for Keilis-Borok's research)," Weldon was quoted as saying. "But I dont lend any insight or support to a window of time." But researchers still point to the fact that the science of earthquake prediction has been notoriously inaccurate and the geographic area targeted by the UCLA team for an imminent quake is very large. "It is not specific," said Susan Hough, a seismologist for the US Geological Survey based in Pasadena, near Los Angeles. "Theyve made three predictions and two of them have been borne out." Keilis-Borok himself acknowledged the caution expressed by some of his colleagues. "Application of non-linear dynamics and chaos theory is often counter-intuitive, so acceptance by some research teams will take time." But if his latest prediction that the earth will move in the area around Los Angeles within the next five months proves accurate, his research could end up saving lives and transforming seismology. its been quite a long time since a big earthquake has hit.... i dunno about u, but im stalkin up on bottled water... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfreshsushi Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 let southern cali fall off into the ocean for all i care, i live on a hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 That fuckin sucks. I'm gonna be moving back to L.A. in May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUDONO? Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 who gives a fuck its not like we never had a quake before. its like telling people in florida they're gonna have a huge fucking hurricane. DONE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synaps Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 people stalk water? poor water ... but i suppose with the prices one pays for the shit, i'm not suprised that it has stalkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasm Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by JUDONO? who gives a fuck its not like we never had a quake before. its like telling people in florida they're gonna have a huge fucking hurricane. DONE!!! yea but u don't hear people in florida saying "oh its just another hurricane...mehhh" they fuckin go out and board up their homes and what not.... i've lived in so cal all my life, and even tho the not so big of earth quakes are enjoyable/not a big deal... if a fuckin big one like 6.5+ strikes... its northridge all over again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duh-rye-won Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 if i was a planet i would have a lot of gnarly earthquakes. well, i guess you can't call it an earthquake on less it's on earth. so first i need a name for the planet i would be... umm... i'm drawing a blank hurr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuck Ya'll Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Earthquake drills in elementary school sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by gfreshsushi let southern cali fall off into the ocean for all i care, i live on a hill. Eat a dick. And I love it when people keep saying California is supposed to" fall off in the ocean," as if in an mere instant. It got misinterpreted in the media somewhere along the line I guess, and people in turn let their ignorance get the best of them. T The fact is, as the tectonic plates on each side of the San Andreas Fault move in opposite directions, California will break apart, and almost half of the state will become an island, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF MILLIONS OF YEARS. It's happening gradually... it won't effect Californians in this lifetime or the next or the next -- so don't grab your snorkels yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrocks Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 (see: cherry blossoms) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasm Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by Fuck Ya'll Earthquake drills in elementary school sucked. at least they took time out of learning ur addition and subtration rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by JUDONO? who gives a fuck its not like we never had a quake before. its like telling people in florida they're gonna have a huge fucking hurricane. DONE!!! The difference IS that this one is supposed to be emitted from the San Andreas fault itself -- the largest fault line in the United States... all of the other quakes in the recent past have came from smaller subsidiary fault lines created by the San Andreas. So it's not going to be the same as the Northridge one in '94 (which came from a smaller fault line) -- it's supposed to be bigger. The last earthquake in Southern California from the San Andreas happened in 1857. The last that happened in California period was the San Francisco quake of 1907. Most of the city was destroyed. Of course, building codes are way better now than they were then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuck Ya'll Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Is anyone else watching Courtney Love on The Tonight Show right now? Why is it that no matter what she does she always looks like a cracked out slut? Also, Southern Cali is more likely to be covered by the ocean rather than break off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasm Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by TheoHuxtable The difference IS that this one is supposed to be emitted from the San Andreas fault itself -- the largest fault line in the United States... all of the other quakes in the recent past have came from smaller subsidiary fault lines created by the San Andreas. So it's not going to be the same as the Northridge one in '94 (which came from a smaller fault line) -- it's supposed to be bigger. The last earthquake in Southern California from the San Andreas happened in 1857. The last that happened in California period was the San Francisco quake of 1907. Most of the city was destroyed. Of course, building codes are way better now than they were then. you jockin the discovery channel aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 STOP!!! you're scaring me, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by sarcasm you jockin the discovery channel aren't you? No, BET's Rap City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfreshsushi Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by TheoHuxtable Eat a dick. And I love it when people keep saying California is supposed to" fall off in the ocean," as if in an mere instant. It got misinterpreted in the media somewhere along the line I guess, and people in turn let their ignorance get the best of them. T The fact is, as the tectonic plates on each side of the San Andreas Fault move in opposite directions, California will break apart, and almost half of the state will become an island, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF MILLIONS OF YEARS. It's happening gradually... it won't effect Californians in this lifetime or the next or the next -- so don't grab your snorkels yet! a few well-placed large earthquakes could speed up the process very rapidly. and since there are hundreds of fault lines crisscrossing the state, it's a real possibility, given how often aftershocks are nearly as powerful as the original earthquake. oh, smartypants, i live in california. i had to learn about plate tectonics while worrying about the drought in the eighties too, so chill out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasm Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by TheoHuxtable No, BET's Rap City. i hate big tigger or whatever that fool's name is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by Fuck Ya'll Also, Southern Cali is more likely to be covered by the ocean rather than break off. Hey why do you say this? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 actually i read something- (no, wait, there's more) -about the san andreas fault ready to let off a "flurry" of quakes. but i guess a flurry in earthquake talk is about 10 over 100 to 150 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by gfreshsushi oh, smartypants, i live in california. i had to learn about plate tectonics while worrying about the drought in the eighties too, so chill out. Sorry, I thought you were one of them cats from the midwest or east coast who always say they could care less and can't wait for California to fall off in the ocean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasm Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by TheoHuxtable Hey why do you say this? Just curious. fault lines run all accross california, and also near by in the pacific ocean... so tsumani i guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by sarcasm fault lines run all accross california, and also near by in the pacific ocean... so tsumani i guess? I asked her why does she think Southern California is more likely than Northern Cali to eventually become submerged by water. So you're not really answering the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasm Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by TheoHuxtable I asked her why does she think Southern California is more likely than Northern Cali to eventually become submerged by water. So you're not really answering the question. iono? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by sarcasm iono? Lip-gloss sandwiches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuck Ya'll Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by TheoHuxtable Hey why do you say this? Just curious. I heard this in a geography class in junior high. Something about the water rising every year. Somebody wasn't paying attention in class... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasm Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by TheoHuxtable Lip-gloss sandwiches. ????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfreshsushi Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 i read somewhere that a lot of the la-area is converted river valley, so most of it would be fairly shifty ground and the first to give way into the ocean. the flooding would follow river lines most likely, and that would mean la, sacramento, and the tijuana areas would be hit hardest with the water. kind of a guess, though. i am pretty tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 interesting, but im not worried our shit town never gets too bad of quakes bit over an hour south of la-la land fires come close, but quakes stay clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effyoo Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Originally posted by sarcasm at least they took time out of learning ur addition and subtration rules and spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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