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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by zorak, Sep 20, 2002.

  1. zorak

    zorak Member

    Joined: Jun 5, 2002 Messages: 666 Likes Received: 1
    i'm sure it's been done before but i like nothing more than beating a dead horse.

    i'm sure you atheists out there have gotten in the inevitable conversation about how you are going to hell, blah, blah, blah. some people don't understand that if you don't believe in something, you are not afraid of it. and then there are the tolerent religious types which let you believe what ever you want, they know not to even try. i give these people a gold star for not butting into my business.

    i tried to make an arguement once. i asked the person if they believed in either santa claus or the easter bunny, which they honestly answered "no". i tried to explain to them that my view of god was like their view of santa claus and the easter bunny. i didn't think i could have made a more crystal clear reference, but the person didn't get it. they couldn't grasp the fact that i didn't believe that a creature created the earth with two perfect people and that all of man kind sprang forth from these two perfect people. ninja please.

    anyway... what are some of your thoughts on the matter.

    "Sometimes i wonder about the Creator of the Universe". Kurt Vonnegut. Breakfast of Champions.
  2. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    if you dont believe in 'God' then there's no reason to believe in 'Hell".
  3. zorak

    zorak Member

    Joined: Jun 5, 2002 Messages: 666 Likes Received: 1
    there you go... at least someone understands what i am saying.
  4. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    I like to think that everything is relative.
    What's a 'sin' for one culture may not be for another.
    Just like what passes as 'food' for one group may be called a 'pet' by another.
    It's all about the personal beliefs that society sets up for up.

    a classic quote...
    "Dont try to guilt trip me, I'm not a Catholic."
  5. Ronnie Dobbs

    Ronnie Dobbs Senior Member

    Joined: Aug 6, 2002 Messages: 2,115 Likes Received: 0
    Even if YOU don't know what faith you are, Belief-O-Matic knows. Answer 20 questions about your concept of God, the afterlife, human nature, and more, and Belief-O-Matic will tell you what religion (if any) you practice...or ought to consider practicing.

  6. Mr. Mang

    Mr. Mang Elite Member

    Joined: Feb 27, 2002 Messages: 2,901 Likes Received: 1
    zorak is king

    plus he quoted Vonnegut


    Word. Another quote that applies:
    "Sin all depends on what you believin' in; faith is what you make it, that's the hardest shit since mc ren."
    --Andre Benjamin, OutKast, 'Aquemini'
  8. Dirty_habiT

    Dirty_habiT Administrator

    Joined: Mar 8, 2001 Messages: 18,136 Likes Received: 82
    egfuckinzactly.... I've said that same thing before many times.
  9. Tyler Durden

    Tyler Durden Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 18, 2001 Messages: 5,263 Likes Received: 40
    to tell you the truth, id like to be able to believe in god. its nice to think of death not being so......final.

    however, theres no way i can rationalize it to myself, its just completely unbelievable, to me at least.
  10. nomadawhat

    nomadawhat Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 24, 2001 Messages: 5,001 Likes Received: 2
    you are all going to hell.....http://smilies.uniquehardware.co.uk/contrib/dvv/seymour.gif'>

  11. Dirty_habiT

    Dirty_habiT Administrator

    Joined: Mar 8, 2001 Messages: 18,136 Likes Received: 82
  12. Believing in God does not mean believing in an afterlife, and vice versa.

    I believe in God, yet I have almost no doubt there is no afterlife whatsoever. Beer,

    El Mamerro
  13. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    a huge deal is "So what's this afterlife about anyways?'

    Obviously the catholics will think it's sitting on a cloud near God and the Jesus Potato.
    The visions of an afterlife are as different as the religions themselves.

    I like to think that I could come back as an older, wiser soul.
  14. willy.wonka

    willy.wonka Guest

    for some reason i have met a lot of athiests that believe in the devil...but not in god?
    athiest can go as far as the big bang theory and then they get stuck...i like to tell athiests that "somebody had to stick thier finger in the pond to start the ripple."
  15. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    "somebody had to stick thier finger in the pond to start the ripple."

    What if the pond moved into the finger?